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Kudos Casino has since been terminated from Askgamblers list of casinos, due to being unresponsive, so any new intending players simply cannot sign up at Kudos via Askgamblers link anyway. For existing players, I guess Kudos is already quite well known for being very sluggish, and I haven't heard of anyone actually enjoy playing there. Nonetheless, telling your story on what had actually happened to your cashout may cast some new light on the casino.

Well, at least the casino is doing the right thing for you Lizy - returning back your real cash balance after you had completed the wagering requirements on the bonus money. As for the games, it is quite clear to me that if you are playing on a restricted game, your cash balance would not show up, and you only get to play with your bonus money. This is a common thing at many other casinos, so there's nothing to worry about. Nonetheless, just be thankful that Wintika is honest enough to pay you back all that is due to you and is not trying to cheat you in any way.

Well, you definitely are not alone on this my dear. I'm sure lots more players would not even think of it either. Unluckily for me, I have had this same experience a few times before, at different casinos. Very recently, I got caught in another similar situation, not exactly the same situation as at Wintika, but a sneaky trap nonetheless! Champagne Spins Casino unfinished bonus money wagering cannot be cancelled off or be forfeited, and therefore had to be carried forward into the free spins play, and then gets combined with the free spins winnings wagering! That becomes 2 wagerings combined into one, like it or not! Simply ridiculous! But of course, I cannot accept that and I didn't want that either, so I cancelled off the unfinished bonus wagering, which still had a huge amount left, but in doing so, my 100 unused free spins got cancelled too! What the argh! If I had known this earlier on, I wouldn't have deposited and taken up its welcome offer!

Oh geees! I forgot that the links from the article would also become active in my post! Luckily, they are links to non-casino related items, or else our Guru might come after me with an elephant gun...a huge one! Hahaha.

Yes indeed! A very sneaky trick that most players would not even be aware of the implications involved! Imagine if Lizy had won 2400 EUR from that 4 EUR rebate money, then all that 2400 EUR becomes eligible for withdrawal! But with a bonus sneaked in, the max withdrawal automatically becomes limited to a miserly 50 EUR! Sheesh!

Wintika is one of the several casinos offering GamesOS games, using the 1ClickGames platform. What this means is that it was predominantly a GamesOS casino, but added other game providers later on, but non-GamesOS games are separated into a different category or grouping. Non-GamesOS games can only be played with real money. Yes, that 4 EUR rebate money was indeed real cash money, without any wagering requirement attached to it, but the casino was being very sneaky when they gave you that 10 EUR bonus! With a bonus attached to your account, your 4 EUR rebate money thus cannot be withdrawn - not until you have completed the wagering on that 10 EUR bonus money (99x wagering, if I'm not mistaken)! It is also stated in their Bonus Terms that the maximum allowable withdrawal for any winnings from bonus money is limited to 50 EUR. Hence, there is simply no case for you to fight the casino...so sorry to say, Lizy. I have closed my accounts at ALL GamesOS casinos and I simply would not play at any of them either. If you can play at other better casinos, please do so...unless you are in the US or Canada, or in some other countries that are not accepted by most casinos.

Hi Lizy, welcome to Askgamblers forum. First of all, cash rebates can either be real cash, with no wagering attached to them, or real cash but with a wagering attached, which is also usually accompanied by a max withdrawable amount on the initial cash rebate. In other cases, rebates are considered as bonus money, with the usual wagering requirements and max withdrawable amount limitations. I don't know which of the first two your cash rebate is. Secondly, many casinos have a system whereby certain games cannot be played with real cash when a bonus is still active in the account (real cash balance would show zero). Whenever you play on such restricted games, only your bonus money would be seen in your account, and only this bonus money would be used for your play on that game. Hence, that 50 EUR max withdrawable limitation came into play when you tried to make a withdrawal from winnings gained from bonus money. The way I see it, this would be the most likely situation in your case. You can name the casino, if you don't mind, so that the actual T&Cs and Bonus Terms can be checked for verification...or you can check this out for yourself and then confirm it here for us to know.

Agree mate...I am also a person who believes in technological advances that are good...as in blockchain technology. But humans being humans, scams and scandals will always be present, either with fiat currencies or cryptos...the big difference being it is damn hard to trace any criminal activities with cryptos, hence it becomes a very favourable medium. So long as supporters and users of cryptos understand and know the risks involved, then they are free to do as they like. In the meantime, this blockchain technology should definitely be developed further to enhance the current fiat financial protocols and system.

I've always been against Bitcoin right from the very start, simply because of its 'dark' beginnings. More and more prominent people have tried to warn the public of this menace, but greed has always been stronger - millions of users want to get rich quickly, even upon realising that they can go bankrupt overnight instead! A few casinos have already stopped accepting Bitcoin for deposits and withdrawals, but for the other casinos that are still maintaining it, well, all I can say is that these casinos are most probably either financed or owned by the blardy rich members of the dark organisation/society - the initiators and/or creators of Bitcoin! I would say that demand for Bitcoin would soon diminish...so rapidly that existing owners and users of Bitcoin would be caught in total surprise!

This is a contributed post by Bill Harris, former CEO of Intuit and founding CEO of PayPal and Personal Capital. I’m tired of saying, “Be careful, it’s speculative.” Then, “Be careful, it’s gambling.” Then, “Be careful, it’s a bubble.” Okay, I’ll say it: Bitcoin is a scam. In my opinion, it’s a colossal pump-and-dump scheme, the likes of which the world has never seen. In a pump-and-dump game, promoters “pump” up the price of a security creating a speculative frenzy, then “dump” some of their holdings at artificially high prices. And some cryptocurrencies are pure frauds. Ernst & Young estimates that 10 percent of the money raised for initial coin offerings has been stolen. The losers are ill-informed buyers caught up in the spiral of greed. The result is a massive transfer of wealth from ordinary families to internet promoters. And “massive” is a massive understatement — 1,500 different cryptocurrencies now register over $300 billion of “value.” It helps to understand that a bitcoin has no value at all. Promoters claim cryptocurrency is valuable as (1) a means of payment, (2) a store of value and/or (3) a thing in itself. None of these claims are true. 1. Means of Payment. Bitcoins are accepted almost nowhere, and some cryptocurrencies nowhere at all. Even where accepted, a currency whose value can swing 10 percent or more in a single day is useless as a means of payment. 2. Store of Value. Extreme price volatility also makes bitcoin undesirable as a store of value. And the storehouses — the cryptocurrency trading exchanges — are far less reliable and trustworthy than ordinary banks and brokers. 3. Thing in Itself. A bitcoin has no intrinsic value. It only has value if people think other people will buy it for a higher price — the Greater Fool theory. Cryptocurrency is best-suited for one use: Criminal activity. Because transactions can be anonymous — law enforcement cannot easily trace who buys and sells — its use is dominated by illegal endeavors. Most heavy users of bitcoin are criminals, such as Silk Road and WannaCry ransomware. Too many bitcoin exchanges have experienced spectacular heists, such as NiceHash and Coincheck, or outright fraud, such as Mt. Gox and Bitfunder. Way too many Initial Coin Offerings are scams — 418 of the 902 ICOs in 2017 have already failed. Hackers are getting into the act. It’s estimated that 90 percent of all remote hacking is now focused on bitcoin theft by commandeering other people’s computers to mine coins. Even ordinary buyers are flouting the law. Tax law requires that every sale of cryptocurrency be recorded as a capital gain or loss and, of course, most bitcoin sellers fail to do so. The IRS recently ordered one major exchange to produce records of every significant transaction. And yet, a prominent Silicon Valley promoter of bitcoin proclaims that “Bitcoin is going to transform society ... Bitcoin’s been very resilient. It stayed alive during a very difficult time when there was the Silk Road mess, when Mt.Gox stole all that Bitcoin ...” He argues the criminal activity shows that bitcoin is strong. I’d say it shows that bitcoin is used for criminal activity. Bitcoin transactions are sometimes promoted as instant and nearly free, but they’re often relatively slow and expensive. It takes about an hour for a bitcoin transaction to be confirmed, and the bitcoin system is limited to five transactions per second. MasterCard can process 38,000 per second. Transferring $100 from one person to another costs about $6 using a cryptocurrency exchange, and well less than $1 using an electronic check. Bitcoin is absurdly wasteful of natural resources. Because it is so compute-intensive, it takes as much electricity to create a single bitcoin — a process called “mining” — as it does to power an average American household for two years. If bitcoin were used for a large portion of the world’s commerce (which won’t happen), it would consume a very large portion of the world’s electricity, diverting scarce power from useful purposes. All of this would be a comic sideshow if innocent people weren’t at risk. But ordinary people are investing some of their life savings in cryptocurrency. One stock brokerage is encouraging its customers to purchase bitcoin for their retirement accounts! Source: https://www.recode.net/2018/4/24/17275202/bitcoin-scam-cryptocurrency-mining-pump-dump-fraud-ico-value

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And I would simply get furious too if I couldn't get my daily strong mug of coffee...but living alone...I can only fight with myself!

Exactly mate! In the end, it becomes 'who can submit more convincing evidences' that would win the case! It certainly can go either way...win or lose...and no one can be very certain of any outcome either. But one fact shall always remain...casinos exist simply for making lots of money from gamblers...and no law is ever going to change that...except banning all casinos!

Your points taken mate. The thing is, if a complaint is submitted, but a casino rule has clearly been broken, then AGCCS can only reject it...simply because it becomes a black & white issue. No sense in trying to fight a lost cause in the first place. This may have been the cause with your complaint rejection...I don't know...and may also have been the cause for your review deletion too. It's a subjective matter...one person's view may not always reflect another's view...and may not always be right either...even though that person in charge has the power to remove any review he deems unfit for publication. However, needless to say...Askgamblers is never always right...nor always in the wrong either! Nothing and no one can ever be perfect. It has been proven that even the judicial system has had a few innocent people to be wrongfully sentenced to jail, and even to the death penalty! Why? Simply because the 'wrong' evidences were more convincing than the 'truth'...so a wrongly sentence got passed!