luckyloser

You are going to go on about a RNG and so on if anyone asks how the games work.. But its impossible to be random.. Any slot. Because of clear patterns and dead patches that seams so conivinient that its not RNG. I wish some slot provider would really come clean and admitt it works differently

Have read on another forum aswell, allot of people seam to be experiencing heavy losses on this game latley. Its been dead for months it seams. To me its been so bad that im actually concidering quitting gambling all together because its not fun to always lose. Had streaks before but this last one is just so extreme. Basicly not had the 5 extra spins in hundreds of bonus round.. Never happened to me before

This game has been so extremley bad to me the last two months... Its almost strange, it seams every bonus roundpays 5-8x bet. I must have had over 5-600 bonus roudnds without the 5 extra spins.. Lost maybe 100 deposits in a row with no win at all... The best i have done is double my deposit. Im seriously starting to doubt the fairness of netent games.. Its just extreeeme. And these streaks always come affter big wins... HMMMMM But this losing streak has been the WORST i have ever had in my life. Even betting very low i cannot win anything

I deposited 200 euros at eurlotto casino. Betting 1 euro pr spin on cazino zeppelin lost 100 euros without a bonus round, 100 on DOA 0.90 pr spin no bonus round and both games paid no prices above 10 euros. Lost 200 in 6-7 minnutes. Deposit again 200 same exact thing... So in basicly 15 minnutes i lost 400 euros betting 1 euro pr spin..... Go to support they give me the standrard copy paste answer.. After allitle back and forth they give me 30 euros!!! bonus... Not even 10% of my deposits... I have never, ever seen anything like this, i mean come on what are the odds... Im so convinced now that its rigged im actually glad this happened because i will never play again after this. Its just insane.. My head cannot even comprehend how this is possible. 15 minutes!!! 400 euros gone...

To be fair i didd not insult you. I just pointed out that you might come of as provoking. When you are accusing people in this manner. Accusing or not, from the way you worded it it sounded to me like you didd. Now lets just leave it at that. I dont want to argue with anyone here.

The casino is not denying this. But they let me reopen an account when i had asked to be permanentley excluded. As for the accounts that i am excluded from they are still closed but i was under the impression i was able to open them again aswell. As you can see from my mail i stated i wanted to permanently ban myself. That means forever. The problem is they have multiple casinos under the same license. This is my whole case.. When i self exclude this means across their whole license... They used the same reason to not pay winnings to a player... This is my point.

The amount of money in question does not change a single ting to me. The whole point is why are they allowed to behave like this. Why can the casinos do whatever they please. While as yourself say; some players scams the casino... Well how can they scam the casino? If i wanted to scam them do you think i would do so fore an amount of 6000NOK or ruffley 679 euros.. This amount is peanuts to what i have played and lost at other sites. To compare, my paycheck each month after taxes are about 2829 euros. Why would i try to scam them for such a low amount? And to be honest even tough you are polite in your post i find the undertones of your post to be insulting to me. The way you insinuate that the other thread was no my girlfriend but me. What have i to lose from coming public about that now? No that was my girlfriend and im sure betsafes investigation has led them to belive so also. Also all her deposits where made from her Visa card.. Why am i even explaining this to you? I can sorta see why you got banned from casinomeister, because your posting style can be really provoking. What do you gain by accusing me of anything? As i said in the above post i do not care about the 6000 NOK, i care more about what if this amount was higher? What if i won lets say 50 000 NOK and they denied my payout? What about other people that this has happened to? Also as i stated above i closed my casino euro account and then after i got a mail from betsson saying they closed that account aswell due to gambling problem. THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD WORK!. Even if i have a gambling problem i expect to be threated fairly from the casinos. And yes im still active in this forum, but only in this thread and i also are haveing some private messages with other members that also have gambling issues. And its good to talk to someone who can understand.

I have now submitted a complaint. I included emails i have sent to slotsmagic,casinoredkings and megacasino about selfexclusion on the 02/05-2014,17/05-2014 and 27/03-2015

Actually i found a email i sent to slotsmagic:

Yes, acutally in under an active self exclusion in, Casinoredkings,Slotsmagic and also Mega casino if im not wrong. Atleast Slotsmagic and Redkings. Ok maybe its worth a shot.

As to my gambling problem. I have realised its very hard for me to quitt gambling all together.. Have been trying for years on end. I have come to the conclusion that if i have to gamble its better i leave one account open with a strickt deposit limit that i can afford. I have since excluded myself from all casinos but one. Stating i want to close my account forever due to a gambling problem. All casinos seams to take this very serious and never allowed me to reopen these accounts. All but Skill on net. This is why i also made this thread, because i cannot understand how they can operate like this. If someone states they have a gambling problem that is not going to change. Its like a drug addict, he will always be an addict. I also think that casinos should have an obligatory method of players setting deposit limits before first deposit. Because my heavy losses always comes from "the fog of war" sort of speaking. When i start to lose and get frustrated i cannot help myself. I alsway start out making the decition to play for a less amount. So if i set a deposit liit beforehand i cannot lose like this.

So you are accusing me of trying to scam the casino?? The other thread was my girlfriend... Im sure casinos can check gameplay and such... She doessent even play the same games as i do. If they belived it was my account they never,ever would have paid. Im sure you would be pretty angry/frustrated aswell if you excluded for a gambling problem and then they allow you to deposit. They have since denied my request to be refunded and thats ok i accept it. I just want to move on. But i requested they permanentley block me from EVERY casino they own. But the manager didd not respond. I also asked them what would have happened if i won? Then what? Would they deny my winnings aswell? Like they didd with the person in the casinomeister thread? I kida feel like you are crossing the line tough when you accuse me of this. If you want to know and i have no problem with this my username in casinomeister has been: Whodatrec. As you can now see this person you are talking about is not me.

Yes, understand that its best for me to stay away. Thanks for the links and advice. But do you honestly think i stand a chance at getting anything back? As i can see the same group confiscated the winnings of a player and returned his deposit due to the same reason. If this is allowd then how can they keep my deposits?? So the casino can win in any situation they see fit?

My exact email was i want to ban myself form playing due to gambling probmel. And they let me reopen it... I have found two recent threads on casinomeister regariding the same thing with the same casino. If im not allowed to post links then mods please remove. One person losing 3k Euros even tough she was self excluded: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67426&page=4 Another person winning 1600Euros and they refuse to pay, but refund depoist. Due to self exclusion on sister site: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67456&page=2 This is shady buisnis practise to say the least... Betsson actually banned me after i closed my casinoeuro account due to gambling problem.. I wassent even aware that they where related. But they sent me a mail saying i was permanentley banned because of this.. And thats how it should work.

I have requested to ban myself from playing at casino Redkings (Skillonnet) on the 17/05 2014 due to gambling problem. Now, i opened an account that turns our is their sister casino under the same liscence Vegaswinner casino. They closed it immidiatly and telling me since i have requested a ban due to gambling problem. But i could reopen it if i told them that i was in controll and whatever. (Ofcourse im going to lie because I DO HAVE A GAMBLING PROBLEM. I have since then in an outragously bad run lost 6000 NOK. I just happend to notice all these casinos i have been playing at and losing ALLOT on since that day are all under the same liscence. Why do they allow me to play? All other casinos i have told i have a gambling problem has locked my account and told me i was never, ever allowed to play there again. This is what i expect when i chose to close my account stating that i have gambling problems. I realise now im an addict and i would do anything to reopen accounts, but every casino i have tried this at refused to reopen. All but the skillonet casinos. I have now requested my deposits refunded. As i understand they are not allowed to let me play? Am i correct? Can i claim i want my money back? Thing is i really,badley want to quit but i cannot help myself and i feel they have taken advantage of this. I know its my choice to play or not, but when i ask them to ban me i expect them to uphold this even when i come begging. Because im an addict i addmit i dont even know what casinos i have closed or not, so i just keep looking and trying to reopen locked accounts. Dont get me wrong, me trying to get my money back is just something i read about now today. That they have to refund. Im not trying to scam the casino in any way. I just want my money back and myself banned forever from all their casinos. In fact i never want to play anywhere anymore, but i cannot help myself. Right now the past month i have lost so much money its insane.. Im basicly in trouble because of this... I feel like i work my job just to pay my debts. Sometimes i even feel like i want to commit suecide. Offcourse im not going to do this but this is the way gambling has made me. And to be honest i am desperate... I feel like if i stand any chance at getting some of my lossses back i dont care if im acting in a morally shady way, because i feel like they have also acted without moral when they take advantage of people with gambling problems. Advice?

This thread seams to have died down? I have been playing on and of latley myself. Took a break but have taken some insane losses on this game the last month. Everywhere i play its totally dead. Can hardly get a bonus round.. Got one wildline on the second to last of the 5 extra spins, paid around 1000x bet but i had a bonus so when wagering was met i only had 600 left so i lost it all back. Thats my best win in ages now. It seams this game has changed.. It dossent feel like it plays like it used to. Before you would get allot of bonus rounds usually even when you where losing. But now everywhere i play its totall *****. Especially in everymatrix casinos.. Never touching them again... The lag is unbelivable and the game are so cold i cannot belive it. Also tried it on several skillonet casinos(Vegaswinner,primecasino and so on) Totally the worst i have seen. Also it seams this game pays better when im playing with a bonus. If i dont have a bonus i never win..

Thy have now paid. You can delete my complaint

Now they are starting to stall again. Again ist been sent to another department fore investigation... Jesus.... Does she need to open a profile here to submit a complaint or can i do fore her? Edit: Im filing a complaint for here if she needs to open an account here herself let me know.

They confirmed now that they will pay her. But they wont open her account again.

She got a reply from them now. Apparently she had closed her betsson account i belive due to a gambling problem, or thats the reason she gave them. And the decided to permenentley close the betsafe account aswell. Still they havent answered if she will get paid or not. They cannot withhold her winnings due to this? They reopened her betsafe account and let her play. Fair thing is to pay her and keep all accounts closed!

I find it a bit weird also that one player can rack up a wildline on 6,25,7,2 and 18 euro bet in one week! Nobody is that lucky.. We all now this game the odds of hitting that within a few spins 3 times in a week is astronomical. 18 euros a spins with a 2000 euro balance like in his video normally is gone in 15-30 minutes of play.

I have had an account with them a long time ago. Its been closed fore several years. She also notified them about this when she opened the account. And was told it was no problem as long as we diddent use the same bonuses. So she has been playing there on and of fore several years. Closing and reopening a few times due to some very poor returns and hefty losses. She has even cashed out and been verified last year i think? I find it strange that this would suddenly be a problem now several years and probably 40-50 deposits down the road. To my knowledge she has also just been playing there after i closed my account and she couldent have been able to use the same bonuses since i didd not have an active account. I do however have accounts with other BML group brands that i have recently closed. And the recent deposits she made she has been using my computer to play(since she always loses when playing with the ipad) I have not used this computer on betsafe, but on their other brands such as betsson. Also she has been playing some higher variance games(after i told her to stopp playing Magic portals and other sych crapp games, because you can never win on them) Maybe they have spotted some pattern and they think its me playing with her account or something? Im not sure but i think its pretty unfair of them to lock her account without no explination the one time she actually wins something.

So Betsafe closed my girlfriends account without no expination other than they couldent say anything before tomorrow as they are inverstigating. She had a pending WD of 10 000 NOK. She has played here for 3-4 years lost ALLOT of money and cashed out 2-3 times i think small amounts. Her account is verified and all so i dont understand why they would close the account? In my 5 years of online gambling i have never seen anything like this before... What should she do?

Well, trust me it can go several thousand x stake without even returning a 500x bet if its in a ***** mood. Only thing i KNOW is that the wins seams to come and go in waves. Atleast judging from my own experience and peoples screenshots. Seams it pays out one week or for a few days and then dies down. I can pretty much spot when this game is total *****. But it could always produce a sick win but in general if it takes forever to get the freespins i tend to play another game instead. You never know whats gonna happen, i have played almost every day fore several months and not hitting a wildline. And then on the flipp side i have gotten a wildline two times in one day. Even got two wildlines(they only paid around 1000x each) and 5 scatters in one session in the same casino within an hour of play..

Well seen videos from a player on another forum he has won over 100 000 Euros on this game the past week. Recentley over 40 000 today from a 18euro!!!! spin. Just after my wildline today. I reversed and lost 500 on 0.45-90 bets really fast after that so i would be carefull with this game in the next couple of weeks. Because it is going to eat like crazy now that it has paid this much. Belive me it will.