Afi4wins Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 36 minutes ago, Blackjax said: RTP is not a software. RTP means Return to Player. Its a term given to a percantage value when you calculate the payout give by a certain number of spins. These spins happen when slots roll which are nothing but algorithms. These algorithms are created by a software. Technically when you increase or decrease RTP it means you have changed the Algorithm. So when you say slots have been manipulated by using AI it means you are saying algorithm has been changed and that is why you were losing money. Manipulation in AI changes payout thus reducing RTP. I hope I have made you understand that RTP is not a software its a term. Thats it. Of course I know EXACTLY what RTP is and stands for, and I also know what AI is and stands for, bro! The term RTP refers to the predetermined PERCENTILE of a game, and I'm saying that this percentile cannot be changed by any AI. What the AI changes is the player's own RTP during the time of playing that game, which constantly goes up or down, depending on getting a win or a loss. These changes are in addition to the designed playing algorithms, which then changes the game's behaviour and payout patterns! In other words, YES, the AI manipulates the algorithms in the game! This is stated in one of the AI articles I mentioned earlier, but I don't have that link now. I think you didn't get this point I was making bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjax Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 The RTP is a product of the AI. Change in AI directly effects the RTP. The problem is you are saying 2+2 is 4 and only 2+2 can be 4. I am saying 3+1, 2x2, 6-2, 8/2 can also be 4. But you still say only 2+2 can be 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiekie247 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 52 minutes ago, Blackjax said: Yeah I know. Its different. Because when I start on Highwebs I start straight away with 60 cent or above. After I cross the max cashout out limit I increase bet even higher because there is urgency of finishing wger and cashing out and no fear of losing. Meanwhile at Dama NV and N1 i never cross 20 to 30 cent because there is fear of losing. That is true to be honest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiekie247 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 BTW @Afi4winsand @Blackjax Take this RTP / AL conversation to the Let's have some chit chat thread instead. Keep on thinking someone posted new winners under my unread threads/post. Meanwhile it's you guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Blackjax said: The RTP is a product of the AI. Change in AI directly effects the RTP. Let me ask you one simple question bro... When a game states that it has a 96.56% RTP, does it mean that everyone who plays that game would get 96.56% of their deposits back? NO! A player's RTP can be anywhere from 0% to over 1000%, but a game's RTP REMAINS at 96.56%. What constantly changes is the PLAYER'S RTP, not the game's. I AM ALWAYS REFERRING TO THE GAME'S RTP, whereas you are always referring to the player's RTP, hence our differences in opinions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said: BTW @Afi4winsand @Blackjax Take this RTP / AL conversation to the Let's have some chit chat thread instead. Keep on thinking someone posted new winners under my unread threads/post. Meanwhile it's you guys... Sorry bro, but it's the end of my comments by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Hey guys, if you want to continue the above discussion please can we create a new topic, any replies on here will be moved. But if Afi does not wish to discuss this further, please respect his wishes. Afi4wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinnit2015 Posted July 10, 2021 Share Posted July 10, 2021 On 7/8/2021 at 4:55 PM, Blackjax said: Welcome back Mr @pinnit2015. Where have you been? BTW do you think its coming home? Are you betting on it? I hope not - Hard enough listening to them whine since the 60's Been in and out with various projects so just letting Bonanza run on autoplay Blackjax, Fiekie247 and ValDes 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Another day in a small paradise... ValDes, Blackjax, cocopop3011 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xamenos Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Mr.Leonidas my friend ValDes, cocopop3011, Blackjax and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ales200 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 No limtcity ValDes, cocopop3011, Blackjax and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ales200 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 I have 3 evro balance 20 cent beat cocopop3011, ValDes, Blackjax and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjax Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, ales200 said: I have 3 evro balance 20 cent beat The ultimate comeback. ales200 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 Nice guys, congrats! ales200 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiekie247 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 @ValDes Trying to Hunt some Elk Mega winners cocopop3011, Blackjax, ValDes and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted July 13, 2021 Author Share Posted July 13, 2021 Hehe, nice try mate, congrats! Personally, I gave up on chasing big wins when it comes to Elk Studios slots... I mean, seems like 400-500x is the max one could expect to hit there, anything above that mark... well, IMHO once in a blue moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiekie247 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Yeah I think the 1000x winners can come from the Gold Series as well as Tropicool, Nitropolis, but you need the super bonus, which I noticed is not buy-able in Elk Studios either, very stupid of them to be honest. But I set myself a challenge to get a x500 plus winner in most of their releases - Obviously in those where its possible. cocopop3011 and ValDes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Good luck with your challenge bro! Fiekie247 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ales200 Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 I like this game ValDes, Afi4wins, Blackjax and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Yes, it's a much better game than Reactoonz 2, and pays better too. ales200 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjax Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 8 hours ago, ales200 said: I like this game What casino are you playing on? Also both your screenshot should be in the 500x topic. This topic is for big wins lower than 500X. This one https://www.askgamblers.com/forum/topic/4709-mega-slot-wins-oh-yes-its-possible/ ales200 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ales200 Posted July 14, 2021 Share Posted July 14, 2021 Blackjax is Videoslots ! Blackjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ales200 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Epic Apee ! Afi4wins, cocopop3011 and Fiekie247 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Congrats Ales! Oh man, I hate Epic Ape as much as Buffalo Blitz 1 and 2! All I ever got from them is nothing more than a 100+x win, most of the other times its always under 30x...and that is simply unacceptable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Now...this is where I want to be all the time! ales200 and cocopop3011 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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