Pragmatic's Social Tournament Progress

[Afi4wins]

8 hours ago, cocopop3011 said:

@Jelena_PragmaticPlay Could you maybe give us an update on this?

Let me make a wild guess...the site became overwhelmed with users because way too many members wanted to chat with the ever-popular Jelena! Maybe our AnOldFriend was one of them too! 

[Fiekie247]

Wait did Miss Isakov leave CM to join PP?

I can see the return of @Icymod

Chaos to be unleashed !!!

[cocopop3011]

57 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said:

Wait did Miss Isakov leave CM to join PP?

I can see the return of @Icymod

Chaos to be unleashed !!!

Jelena was at CM? 

[Flatzem]

29 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said:

Jelena was at CM? 

[cocopop3011]

1 hour ago, Flatzem said:

Oh Jelena. I don’t know if we can forgive you for this

[Flatzem]

1 hour ago, cocopop3011 said:

Oh Jelena. I don’t know if we can forgive you for this

[cocopop3011]

1 hour ago, Flatzem said:

Maybe I can forgive and forget if we had some super awesome contest from them  

[Flatzem]

for this month I am entering all the total win type tourney data into a spreadsheet and calculating the P/L and RTP %

after staking 11,500$ it entered into 90%+ RTP and has remained there.  currently staked 33,050$ and RTP is at 95.81% -1385.64$, as you know RTP used on the slots at ST are almost all around the 96.5%. Not the 94 or 92 that you would find at some casinos that use pragmatic play slots.

 

 

[Afi4wins]

Whatever it is bro, I wouldn't trust those data you have gained from ST. Fine for just knowing sake, but never for real money playing sake!

[Blackjax]

On 5/10/2023 at 5:42 PM, Flatzem said:

for this month I am entering all the total win type tourney data into a spreadsheet and calculating the P/L and RTP %

after staking 11,500$ it entered into 90%+ RTP and has remained there.  currently staked 33,050$ and RTP is at 95.81% -1385.64$, as you know RTP used on the slots at ST are almost all around the 96.5%. Not the 94 or 92 that you would find at some casinos that use pragmatic play slots.

 

 

Are those wheel spins still available where you get prizes?

[Flatzem]

16 minutes ago, Blackjax said:

Are those wheel spins still available where you get prizes?

yep they are, free wheels and paid wheels, and to get cash prizes you have to spin the legendary wheel (can reach it by buying the legendary or getting a level up from rare to epic to legendary or from epic to legendary). Would be good to find out actual odds of stopping on cash prize when you spin the legendary wheel. Had it only happen once (it paid 10eur)..... and I have done around 220 legendary spins. (215 for sure plus have had some unknown number between Oct 7 and Nov 31, 2021 so it could be around 220 total.

[Flatzem]

not placed in the money in all 20 monthly tourneys I played in thus far, but this new monthly (prizepool 20K, was 12K) that just started will have top 1650 to get a cash prize up from top 850. It also used to be top 550 and before that top 450...back in season 8... now we are in season 15... 

Another good change is the daily cash tourneys have been increased in prize money and thus more placings, the 200eur tourneys have become 300eur and top 25 get paid (up from top 15) and the 400eur tourneys have become 500eur and in those top 35 get paid (up from top 25).

[Flatzem]

why does social pass go up to 72,000 points when you can't get more than about 56,000 in a season...  do they even realize this, they put a legendary wheel as the last prize and nobody can reach it.... 

I dunno how many seasons they have been doing this but it's gone on for long enough.

 

[Flatzem]

cause stats are fun here's this month ST stats and graphs, these are for Total Win Type tourneys and Bonus Buys.

ALL total win type tourneys plus bonuys buys included. (staked $69,030, RTP 102.92%)

 

excluding bonus buys (staked $36,130, RTP 111.48%)

 

only bonus buys (staked $32,900, RTP 93.52%)

[Flatzem]

this is why you don't make max multiplier with a bonus buy tourney, there's a tourney now Zeus vs Hades: Gods of War.... that pays cash prizes for the first 25 places but already there are 31 players that had 5000x.... so no point in playing it anymore with 2 hours 14 minutes remaining. 6243 players..... its a 6 hour tourney...... I have never seen before a cash tourney that had tourney type as max multiplier with bonus buys (10 spins)...   this is only for early birds, outrageous.

 

[Flatzem]

final stats for May at ST

ALL total win type tourneys plus bonuys buys included. (staked $90,430, RTP 99.42%)

 

excluding bonus buys (staked $51,680, RTP 106.31%)

 

only bonus buys (staked $39,750, RTP 87.96%)

[Flatzem]

pragmatic's Gods of Giza has one of the worst slots for bonus buys returns I have ever seen, out of 10 bonus buys  9 of them returned less than 100$.... (each one cost 100$ [100x])..... and 3 of them were under 2x ..... worst one being 0.5x. So at end of the 10 bonus buys the RTP was under 40%.

[Flatzem]

29 attempts at the May monthly and did not make it into the money, even though it pays for top 1650. 21st Monthly tourney and still not made it into the money in a monthly, average of nearly 19 tickets a tourney. This month there was less than 23K players.. so 1650 placings is about 7.2%....

yet in tourneys such as a weekly reset tourney where top 105 get paid I get placed in that. and top 105 of that tourney where nearly 24K players took part is 0.44%, or a newsletter tourney top 100 and in that nearly 3000 played, and that was top 3.3%......

.yet a tourney where top 7.2% get placed and I had 29 attempts and still not make the top 1650 what?! or what about that time when got in top 175 of a weekly final (several times), top 175 of over 5000 players, which is 3.27%, what about those tourneys where top 15 got paid and I placed in those.... when over 6500 players took part,,,,, that top 15 was a 0.22% 

so what is it about these monthly tourneys that only some players are allowed to get placed in them with a one or two entry yet there's those like me who pay 20 or more tickets and get nothing.

 

 

 

[Afi4wins]

4 hours ago, Flatzem said:

29 attempts at the May monthly and did not make it into the money, even though it pays for top 1650. 21st Monthly tourney and still not made it into the money in a monthly, average of nearly 19 tickets a tourney. This month there was less than 23K players.. so 1650 placings is about 7.2%....

yet in tourneys such as a weekly reset tourney where top 105 get paid I get placed in that. and top 105 of that tourney where nearly 24K players took part is 0.44%, or a newsletter tourney top 100 and in that nearly 3000 played, and that was top 3.3%......

.yet a tourney where top 7.2% get placed and I had 29 attempts and still not make the top 1650 what?! or what about that time when got in top 175 of a weekly final (several times), top 175 of over 5000 players, which is 3.27%, what about those tourneys where top 15 got paid and I placed in those.... when over 6500 players took part,,,,, that top 15 was a 0.22% 

so what is it about these monthly tourneys that only some players are allowed to get placed in them with a one or two entry yet there's those like me who pay 20 or more tickets and get nothing.

 

 

 

@Flatzem Bro, bro...I have already stated before why I don't like that Tournament, why those winning Prag players are not regular members like us, and why many of them gets to the top winning positions within just a few tries.

It's all BS, BS, BS and nothing more. Sure, you can win, but only the 10EUR - 25EUR prizes.

I'm not ever going to waste my time on those tourney games...just log in daily and claim the daily prize...that's it. I don't know how you can be playing and playing daily in those bluffing ST games!!! 

[Jelena_PragmaticPlay]

Hey everybody and happy Friday 

I found this thread today, sorry somehow missed the tag notifications 

So am I forgiven about CM?

There are some awesome tournaments coming up in June and July as we reached out the 3 Million paid in prizes so far! It's gonna be a festive summer! 

 

[Afi4wins]

32 minutes ago, Jelena_PragmaticPlay said:

Hey everybody and happy Friday 

I found this thread today, sorry somehow missed the tag notifications 

So am I forgiven about CM?

There are some awesome tournaments coming up in June and July as we reached out the 3 Million paid in prizes so far! It's gonna be a festive summer! 

 

@Jelena_PragmaticPlay  You being at CM doesn't and didn't bother me at all...but you NOT being at Askgamblers bothers me a lot! 

[Flatzem]

1 hour ago, Jelena_PragmaticPlay said:

Hey everybody and happy Friday 

I found this thread today, sorry somehow missed the tag notifications 

So am I forgiven about CM?

There are some awesome tournaments coming up in June and July as we reached out the 3 Million paid in prizes so far! It's gonna be a festive summer! 

 

can you find out what is the actual real chance of landing on the cash segment when spinning the legendary wheel?

and what is the actual real chance of winning a cash prize from a lootbox?

would be good if Pragmatic slots included in their info for each slot what is the actual chance of getting a max win... (NoLimitCity does this) e,g look here. for Dead Canary, but also a good info would be to show what is the chance of a slot getting a 1000x+ win.

we seen in the May monthly that only 2 players got a max win (it appears so unless they had two large wins to get themselves over 500,000 but let's assume those were max wins of 5000x), on Excalibur Unleashed, out of 22912 players... each player had 300 spins. so at least 6,873,600 spins were played (does not include all the many rebuys)(without including rebuys then its 1 in 3,436,800) why not include the stat of showing how many spins were played so we can then calculate it ourselves, you keeping all the stats to yourself.  some of us wanna know all the stats.

and lastly would be good if you could include total lifetime winnings for each player in ST stats.

 

 

[Afi4wins]

@Flatzem  Geeeees bro...you don't even play any Prag slots with real money but you're interested in all such stats? I would understand if you play Prag games a lot (not in ST) daily and losing real money. 

[Flatzem]

14 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

@Flatzem  Geeeees bro...you don't even play any Prag slots with real money but you're interested in all such stats? I would understand if you play Prag games a lot (not in ST) daily and losing real money. 

I do play prag slots with real money occasionally. but yes I am interested in all stats.

[Jelena_PragmaticPlay]

On 6/16/2023 at 5:09 PM, Flatzem said:

can you find out what is the actual real chance of landing on the cash segment when spinning the legendary wheel?

and what is the actual real chance of winning a cash prize from a lootbox?

 

 

Hey @Flatzem thanks heaps for your feedback and suggestions!

I have this answer to your question about chances -  Odds are similar to getting bonus from Danger High Voltage.

Does that help?