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That's the thing with all these incredible claims - they always claim, or say, and always believe, that this one miraculous win 'could come at any time, at any day, and without expectation'. Yes, theoretically, it is indeed a possibility, but not a probability (hope readers can differentiate the difference between 'possibility' and 'probability' - in scientific language, one means 'yes, there is a very remote chance that it may happen', whilst the other means 'no, it probably will not happen within a lifetime'). Coming back to my topic - that is exactly the point that I have been trying to make here...anything can be possible, but if it is something 'not probable' within anyone's span of lifetime, then that statement should state its 'actual probability period' of possibly several life spans...or not be published at all...or simply be banned from being stated...because such statement can be very deceitful!

Most importantly...I almost forgot to say out... A 'precisely controlled operating environment' for the RTP...if possible at all... could and would produce the same results over and over again...without any variances from the designed or programmed desired results! "WHAAAAT??? Produce the same results over and over again??? Like in duplicated, repetitive, and repeatable results??? As in scientific experiments???" "NO! NO! NO! We don't want that kind of repetitive repeatable results...then everything would become so predictive...so predictable that we would lose our shirts and pants!" And so folks, that's the ONE and ONLY reason why all casino games will NEVER be running under any 'precisely controlled environment' - operating environment, or whatever else environment...simply because casinos only want to make money...never to lose money! Hahaha.

Here again, I cannot agree with you mate! Hehehe. The RTP may remain the same, as preset by the software provider, yet the game can still play vastly differently from one casino to another...why??? Let me put this RTP thing back into its correct perspective...what is the sole purpose of an RTP? To ensure that the desired results are as consistently attainable as possible...without this RTP presetting, the RNG (pseudo-random or not) could go completely wild, and the game could produce out-of-control wins and losses...which would be completely undesirable! So...what the RTP actually does is to create a 'controlled environment' for the mathematics, algorithms and what-have-yous to work more properly, under more stringent guidances, and always to stay within the boundaries set, thereby preventing totally undesirable results! And so yet again...what does all that mean? It simply means that all games are therefore being played in a 'controlled environment', by as much as practically possible, but can never be under 'precisely controlled environment' as required for scientific experiments. simply because of the huge amount of other variances involved which may effect the operating environment. All clear now? Hehehe. ?

Sorry mate, but I have to disagree that it's all in the maths! Notice how scientists must carry out all their experiments under very precisely controlled environments? Because environment have effects on the results...in scientific terms, very profound differential results! Notice too why some same prestigious cars tend to break down more often than others? Yet again, due to the varying 'operating environment' of each car, even though all components of each car are exactly identical! In practice, scientific mathematical equations may be the same, but when applied under 'uncontrolled environments', they tend to give varied results! This is scientifically proven, so you don't have to take my word for it! Likewise, in casino games, which also totally depend on mathematical equations, with the same equations and algorithms, will tend to give varied results when operating under different 'uncontrolled' environments, simply because no two casino's 'operating environment' are identical...and they are never under 'precisely controlled environments' either!

Yep, to me personally, you are not wrong there Mister Santoro! From my own vast experiences, I can tell you that even sister casinos each play and pay differently, although they share the same platform and same softwares! The slight variances depend on a lot of other settings, each specific to each casino, even slightly affecting games from the software providers themselves. What do I mean by that? I have seen how my favourite Supe It Up game can play slightly differently at one casino from the next, although the game come from the same Microgaming server/s! But of course, many others may, or would, disagree and dispute on this, but it is you who are playing, and if you are observant enough, not the 'set on autoplay whilst I go do something else' kind, then you definitely would see and feel the slight variances. Hence, I always stick to where my games play and pay the best! ?

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Hmm, but of course...but I wish whoever ask such a question would clarify on why they are asking! Hehehe. ?

When anyone ask this sort of a question, I always end up asking myself "is the person trying to be a new affiliate, wanting to start a new affiliated website, or simply want a good reference site for reliable casino reviews?"

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Aaaah...getting off the track for a bit...I wish I can follow GoT series, but I don't even know if it's available in my country...because I hardly watch any TV!!! Hahaha. All I could do was to watch clips of the series via you-know-where-tube...but never in their right sequences, never in their right seasons, so never in my right mind either...sheeeeesh! ? But from what I have watched so far...I do love it! Hehehe. Now...coming back on track...I do wish the Authorities, or Agencies, or anybody else, could eventually make a positive and workable solution, to prevent and avoid recurrences of such misleading and ridiculous claims! The world is already so full of lies...and I would definitely hate playing on deceitful games!

There are a few casino groups that I tend to avoid playing at, at any cost, and Aspire Global casinos is one of them!

Hi there Tpotroberts. Generally speaking, more than 95% of casinos would regard you as 'playing with an active bonus' whenever you make a deposit and get a deposit bonus with it. Only a very few casinos, like Casumo, would allow you to play with your real money first, then make a withdrawal if you happen to win. Most other casinos do not allow this, except for withdrawal of your initial deposit amount, but the bonus amount, including all your winnings, if any, cannot be withdrawn and would be removed. I am restricted from Karamba Casino, so I am not familiar with it, but suffice to say, its terms and conditions would most probably be about the same. The variance, if any, would usually lie in the amount of wagering required to be completed, either on the bonus amount, or on the deposit+bonus amount, and also in the max bet size allowed to be used at any one time during play, which usually would range from a mere 1 USD/EUR/GBP bet per spin, to the usual 5 USD/EUR/GBP, and at certain casinos, even up to 10 or 20 USD/EUR/GBP. Some casinos do not even allow any higher bets than the max bet stipulated, even after completion of the bonus wagering, so be very careful of this! There are also numerous other terms that may vary from casino to casino, but I won't go into those details. Each player MUST read and understand the terms and conditions of the casino they are playing at - no excuses, or you'd end in lots of trouble later on! ?

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If we aren't cynical, we aren't ourselves! ? I can be everything an angel can be...yet I can also be everything a devil can be...I can trust someone...or I can trust no one...hahaha.

Thanks for your thoughts mate! Yes, what you say do make some sense, at least, hehehe, but we may never know the whole truth of it all, unless the casino shows that winning screenshot in their paytable - proof that it is possible to get what they claim! Will the casinos do it? Very unlikely - unless imposed upon them by the Agencies concerned. State how many billions or trillions of spins needed to get that win? Don't think they would state that either...all the big win hunters would be scared away! Similarly, if stated that such win can only be achieved at max bet sizes...how many punters may die first chasing that elusive big win! The best solution to me...don't state the elusives...don't make punters be-LIE-ve to...and just stick to the good old ways of getting those Max Wins! ?

Of late, I've been seeing some games that have incredible maximum win statements, like 'win up to 60,000x bet' and higher! I read that one game even has it up to 100,000x bet! Needless to say, these games are of the 'Extremely High Volatility' kind (shown as having a 5-Lightnings rating by certain game providers), but not many of such games are around, thankfully, but it does seem to me to be the 'new trend' nowadays! About 10 years or so ago, some of the best games around already have this 'Extremely High Volatility' rating, games such as Immortal Romance, Thunderstruck II, Dead Or Alive, and Jack And The Beanstalk, just to name a few, but not including Jackpot games like Mega Moolah. Mega Fortune and the rest. How to get this stated Max Win? With the old games, it is very simple and straightforward - just get 5 Wild Desire Reels, or 5 Wild Reels, or 5 Wild Harp reels...and the max win is won! How about with recent new games? Well, how to get them is totally ambiguous, with no direct ways or directions, and you need to do some serious maths to really 'see' how such a win can be won! To me, it's like making a statement of 'win up to 100,000x bet'...(but hidden from view: ... on Mars). What it actually imply is that you need to use all the miniscule wins from the game, gradually build a rocket, fly to Mars, and then find that elusive '100,000x Treasure Chest' somewhere on Mars! Is that even possible? The software providers would certainly say "YES, it is possible", because they have already made such statements in their games. Can they show proof of such a win? "Oh geees...that would be like trying to show a true image of a Black Hole!" So there you go folks...what the software providers are saying is that it is indeed possible to achieve such a ridiculous win, but the sole winner may be generations away from you! My big question is...why are the Gambling and Licensing Authorities allowing such statements to be made??? Are they so gullible as to actually believe in such a statement...without any proof, purely on a mathematical possibility, even it means thousands of years to get it??? To me, such statements of 'win up to ??,???x bet' should be completely BANNED...so as not to mislead us players! Yes, the casinos have their eyes on those filthy rich gamblers (not that I care a damn about them) who only know how to spend tons of money, enjoy life, and not care a damn about anything else...but struggling gamblers, like the majority of us, may get killed by such a statement! Yes, it can actually be THAT SERIOUS!!! Having said all that...what do you think? ?

I'm really being very fair to the game, knowing damn well it's a 5-lightning rated game...but nonetheless, this isn't the only such HV game that I, or you Mr P, or anybody else, have ever played either...but comparing my sessions when playing with bonus money against not, the 2 gameplays are absolutely continents apart! Say what you like, think what you like too, but from what I have experienced with many PP's games, they ALL tend to behave in such manner...plays very well in the beginning (newly released period, as when our mate Fiekie played it), then playing totally rubbish thereafter. I was hoping Fiekie would come in with some comments, and wondering too if he's still getting 'awesome' game sessions on this Extra Juicy lately...or maybe the juices have all dried out instead too? Hahaha. ?

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I've never really trusted Pragmatic Play's games...and Extra Juicy is now included! The max win possible is indicated as 60,000x bet...a totally blardy hyped statement by PP!!! Why? To get that win, you must get all 15 Bell symbols (to win 1000x), then you must get all 4 Retriggers (to get the max 60 free spins), and finally, all those 15 Bells must come ONLY on the very last 60th free spin, which has a 60x multiplier...then ONLY can you get that blardy 60,000x win! The possibility of getting all 4 Retriggers, and getting all Bell symbols on the 60th free spin? Well, I would say you need to go to Mars and back first!!! In terms of spins...you'd probably need Trillions or Quadrillions of them...totally unachievable in anyone's lifetime!!! To put everything in its proper perspective, last night, I played the game with a starting balance of $50...no bonus taken whatsoever...so the game played at its hardest settings. Almost 500 spins later (just short by about 30 spins or so), playing only at the minimum $0.20 bets, I have lost all my $50, without getting even 1 blardy Free Spins Game...but worst of all, the best win I got from the game was...WAIT FOR IT...an unbelievable...9x my bet!!! Almost 500 spins and all it could pay me were some 8x and 9x wins...totally and absolutely ridiculous!!! How Fiekie managed to get up to 24K win that day...I can only presume...but I won't speak my mind out...so go figure yourselves, hehehe. No offense please Fiekie bro! ?

Yep...mine too...good ole old-fashioned oldie games...ever since they came out so many years ago, hehehe. They have simple and straightforward max win potentials...not ridiculously hyped as recent newer games. Anyway, here's my current top number 2 game...good ole True Love from Playtech...still can't beat MG's Supe it Up of course...

Glad you got my meaning bro! Many others read and just let go...cos they won't believe me...I don't LIE, hehehe.

Like I said many times already mate...don't beLIEve in what the max win tells you...you need you get that 1000x win five times in a row!!! And also don't ever beLIEve in what the demo mode pays you!!!

I looked at the paytable...I gave the game 100 spins...only got rubbish wins...then I was outta there in a flash! This phoenix bird is only for the likes of X-MEN!!! ?

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Oh geees...and I've been waiting too for AG to find us that 'oasis' somewhere out there in the huge iGaming desert... ? Come on all you Direx NV casinos out there...wherefore art thou??? Me and my buddies here are regular players and depositors at many of your casinos...surely some of you can come up with one lousy exclusive AG competition for us loyal fanatics???!!! ?