niran

I have officially reported the issue to thepogg.com

thanks bro! I know you gave me that earlier on the support chat we had, but I wanted to know if I could use any of the other MGA, ADR's or does it have to be ThePOGG? thats the question I'm kind of getting at!

stil no reply from King Billy casino regarding my questions about total winning bet amount and winning bet amount that my vip rep sent me!! and what it states in the terms and conditions on their website, and my latest post on MGA Regulations wonder why??

MGA GAMING PLAYER PROTECTION REGULATIONS Part IV Unfair Terms Criteria for terms and conditions. 10. (1) Operators shall ensure that the terms and conditions applicable to the provision of their gaming service are Intelligible and easily accessible, and that changes thereto are made in a fair and transparent manner, and that players have explicitly accepted the latest version of the terms and conditions before being allowed to start or continue being the recipient of a gaming service. (2) Where any provision in such terms and conditions is ambivalent, or any reasonable doubt arises as to the meaning thereof, the interpretation most favourable to the player shall prevail. Unfair terms. Cap. 378. 11. Operators shall ensure that the terms and conditions applicable to the provision of their gaming service are not unfair in terms of Part VII of the Consumer Affairs Act

can anyone in here give me a list with approved Malta Gaming Authority, Alternative Dispute Resolutions services for King Billy Casino please and thank you!

well something real fishy is going on, but they're literally like a blue whale, and you know how hard it is to slow them down !!!

Sorry, I just wanted to add one more thing in, because I couldn't edit the last post. the only thing that I admited to be incorrect was my total bet amount! I never agreed that my total winning amount was correct!! for clarification! I'm very curious to know why I can't edit it!! Anyways, AND THE WHOLE DISPUTE WAS WHAT MY WINNING BET IS!! my WINNING TOTAL AMOUNT IS $333,435.25, from the betting the logs they sent me!! so its Total bet sum (780 755 CAD) – Winning total amount( 333, 435.25) – Issued Bonuses (483 CAD) *10 = STILL GET $7500 CAD If you look at what Ruslan posted there he posted my total bet amount correct but my total winning amount is incorrect, and thats what he's adding in together. which is totally different! 'Thursday Cashback' Bonus conditions: minimum net loss amount* (minus issued bonus and withdrawal sum) placed in the period from Thursday 00:00 till Wednesday 23:59 is €/$500 (750AU$/CAD); The The minimum deposits sum placed in the period from Thursday 00:00 till Wednesday 23:59 is €/$500 (750AU$/CAD); The refund is calculated using the formula for Prince status: (pot** - winning amount - received bonuses***) × 0.1; Unavailable for Cryptocurrencies; Wager Free / No Max Win; net loss* = (total bet amount - total winning bet amount); pot** is the total bet sum; received bonuses***: the cashback bonus for the previous week, 'points for money' bonus, and canceled bonuses are not taken in count. Due to those rules and conditions for getting the 'Thursday Cashback Bonus', your bonus ($677.09) has been automatically added to your account. I have underlined the two equations one has total winning bet amount for figuring out net loss and the other winning amount to figure the CASHBACk!!, Two different equations and two different terminologies one payoff sum=total winning bet amount and profit=total winning amount, and this is on the betting logs they have provided me. So obviously, they would have put the word bet into the equation of the cashback formula, if they put it into the formula to qualify for a cashback, from what my rep sent me! because that makes a huge difference; the reason why my vip did that was because casinos aren't allowed to be ambiguous in their terms and conditions, they have to be understood completely. so technically when Ruslan_kingbilly is putting winning total amount in his equation, he's means total winning bet amount.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY AFI!! WISH YOU ALL THE BEST TO YOU BROTHER,!!YOU'RE AN AMAZING PERSON!!

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wow!!!

what jurisdiction is that casino at, is it MGA by any chance?

Sorry, I just wanted to add one more thing in, because I couldn't edit the last post. if you look at what Ruslan posted there he posted my total winning amount correct, but what he really means by that is my total winning bet sum, and thats what he's adding in together. Because on the bet logs there are payoff sum and profit. so technically when he's putting winning total amount, that's what he means, which is deceiving! I already have all the info of authority I will be citing from there jurisdiction. So keep tuned in folks. Also, when he mentions that the cash backs are calculated by default, thats odd because my Vip manager had informed me I wasn't going to get a cash back that week, based on how the "special software" automatically calculates. This guy is a real piece of work!! All my evidence will be shown on the complaint trust me guys, this will be good!!! I just want to tell you the power of ask gamblers, because when I threatened to post a thread so everyone will be aware of the Cashback Bonus terms, guess what happened the very next morning, i got a SUPRISE email, from my vip manager telling me I got a cashback!! So anyone who says Askgamblers is a scam or they work for the casino, bear witness because their reach is far and wide, trust me on this I am an example of this!! Again I just want to thank the admin and the members for helping me out on this!! And I wouldn't of got to where I am with all the evidence of "Law", if it wasn't for you guys! shout out to Afi4wins and Valdes!!! Sincerely, Niran Kali

I would have to strongly disagree with you, I can't talk about your case but Ask Gamblers has helped me out so much and want to thank them once again for everything they have and are doing for me!

I would like to apologize formally, I was wrong in the total bet sum amount, it was $780, 755, but it doesn't change the claim I filed early this morning with Ask Gamblers complaint team. I will now have to edit the numbers but I was up all night investigating and found out a lot. I have cited authority in this claim but not going to explain it to you here Roslen! This will have to be settled with the complaint team. I'm done conversing on this matter on the forum because of the complaint I have filed. But just for your information even with your numbers I still get $7500 cad. Just to prove my point even further notice in the careful wording Roslen uses Total bet sum (780 755 CAD) – Winning total amount(774 670 CAD) – Issued Bonuses (483 CAD) *0,1. Notice he use winning total amount! Now take a hard look at the terms and conditions for cashback below! See how they put total bet sum making sure to include the word total, and not including total in front of the winning amount! And that my friends is why I have cited authority on this claim!! When the complaint is filed I will let everyone know!!! keep you guys posted!!!!!

I saw all of them, thank you sooo much for helping!!!

last one the chewing gum killed me!!

great waiting to hear from them after my last post

sorry I will!

Dear ask Gamblers, ************What does total winning bet amount mean: Well if I'm gambling on live Baccarat and I bet $1500, and I win, I get back $3000, because when I made that initial bet of $1500, it was withdrawn out of my balance which gave me $3000, so my winning amount is really $1500.***************** ***** So my total Bet sum= $1500, My total winning bet amount = $3000 My total winning amount = $1500****** Ok I got a email from King Billy of the logs so, I was off by a couple thousand, apparently, but let me show you what they did: (total bet sum - total winning bet amount) *0.1 , which is used to calculate if your qualified for the cashback!! not for the actual cash back. I figured it out with the help of AskGamblers chat Mia, she helped a lot! Total bet sum = $679,222.20. Total winning on bet amount= $636,961. Total winning amount=$318 ,480.5 Deposit = $16,000. Withdrawls=$16,000 Bonus= 0 Net loss = $42,261.20 CAD 'Thursday Cashback' Bonus conditions: The minimum net loss amount* (minus issued bonus and withdrawal sum) placed in the period from Thursday 00:00 till Wednesday 23:59 is €/$500 (750AU$/CAD); The minimum deposits sum placed in the period from Thursday 00:00 till Wednesday 23:59 is €/$500 (750AU$/CAD); The refund is calculated using the formula for Prince status: (pot** - winning amount - received bonuses***) × 0.1; Unavailable for Cryptocurrencies; Wager Free / No Max Win; net loss* = (total bet amount - total winning bet amount); pot** is the total bet sum; received bonuses***: the cashback bonus for the previous week, 'points for money' bonus, and canceled bonuses are not taken in count. Now in this updated cashback that my vip rep sent me, she says this to break it down right. 1. qualify for a cashback must deposit minimum of $750 cad, which I did 2. qualify for a cashback minimum net loss amount of $750 cad, and this is the formula to qualify, but you have to know what net loss is, and the formula for this is: -net loss* = (total bet amount - total winning bet amount); - Oct 21 - 27, 2020 net loss = ($679222.20-$636961)= $42,261.20 CAD - now to calculate if I qualify for the cash back using formula: -Net loss amount* (minus issued bonus and withdrawal sum): $42,261.20 - 0 - $16000= $26,261.20 net loss for that week so I qualify because it says, $750 CAD is min. Now because I qualify for the cash back bonus we can now proceed to the formula we use to for the Cashback Bonus, as stated: -(pot** - winning amount - received bonuses***) × 0.1; -pot** is the total bet sum; - ($679,222.20 - $318 ,480.5-0)*0.1= $36, 074.17 which exceed 7500 so I get that this for Oct 21 to Oct 27 2020 Now for the week of Oct 28 - Nov 02, 2020: Total bet sum = $818,498.27 Total winning bet amount = $775 507.65 Total winning amount =$392, 000 withdraws = $8000 Deposits = $8000 Bonus = 0 Net loss = $42,990.62 -Now to calculate net loss first: -net loss* = (total bet amount - total winning bet amount) - ($818,498.27 - $775 507.65)= $42, 990.62 . - Now to calculate if I qualify for the Cash back Bonus: -Net loss amount* (minus issued bonus and withdrawal sum): - $42,990.62 - 0 - $8000 = $34990.62 so I qualify again because my net loss is over $750 CAD Now because I qualify for the cash back bonus we can now proceed to the formula we use to for the Cashback Bonus, as stated: -(pot** - winning amount - received bonuses***) × 0.1; -pot** is the total bet sum; ($818,498.27 - $392, 000 - 0) * 0.1 = $42, 649.83 which exceed $7500 so I should of got this for Oct 28 -Nov 02 2020 so the total winning bet amount is used in the formula to qualify for a cashback and is not used for the cashback, that means this would be the right way to calculate it. because why would they obviously put the total winning bet amount in the formula to qualify for a cashback, and not put it in ithe formula to get a cashback? what do you think?

I authorize them to provide the info publicly. so everyone here can see what the mighty King is doing to his prince. or even better let me provide it here

To be honest in Toronto it's crazy as well, I live downtown in the core and it's like zombie land. I hope everyone here is safe!!

You raise a good point, but are you a citizen of Canada, thats what makes the difference. You should call the CRA and they probably would help you out in this case! but the state that America is in right now good luck even getting a reply! wish you all the best!

Now I'm going to show you that there is in fact proof of glitch's in evolution gaming software. These two pictures I am showing you guys are my bet history on evolution gaming. I have underlined the bet total for that day. If you look at them closely the images are exactly alike all the bets made and all the winning losing bets I had. The only difference is the total bet amount for that day, the date is Oct 29 2020 look at the two screen shots. For the total Bet amount for that day one says $299, 491. And the other one says $627, 746. has this happened to anyone and if so please post your claim so we can clear up the air!!

Dear ask Gamblers, What does total winning bet amount mean: Well if I'm gambling on live baccarat and I bet $1500, and I win, I get back $3000, because when I made that initial bet of 1500 it was withdrawn from my balance and won $3000, so my winning bet is $1500 So my total Bet sum= $1500, My total winning bet amount = $3000 My total winning amount = $1500 ?????