Big Time Gaming and Bonanza

[Fiekie247]

On 1/27/2020 at 10:31 AM, pinnit2015 said:

More chance of a 2000x plus on Bonanza 

I like Sweet Alchemy/reactoonz.....that's about as good as it gets.....

I honestly stick to all the older slots from PNG - Anything that was released before June last year, as these new releases are just to highly volatile for me and I simply win on them.

I still love Moon Princess and Rise of Olympus, but that Black Mamba is utter Garbage.

[pinnit2015]

1 minute ago, Fiekie247 said:

I have to be honest, I struggle to get a winner on Rise of Merlin, this slot is always in Cold Mode for me, I actually did well over a 1000 spins before in 3 different sessions and not once trigger the free spins feature. Ill take my chances on Madame Destiny instead.

I think if you're looking 'Book Slots' then Novmatic are the best (and the original if i'm not mistaken?)

BF ones are extremely volatile

Merkur's are also super HV. 

[Fiekie247]

9 minutes ago, pinnit2015 said:

I think if you're looking 'Book slots' then Novmatic are the best (and the original if i'm not mistaken?)

BF ones are extremely volatile

Merkur's are also super HV. 

I stay away from Merkur actually dont have the budget and these 5 liner slots does not help either in anyway for me, However Gamomat seems good, as well as Novamatic.

BF i used to play it at LV, however I am done with them, havent depo there in a while.

[Flatzem]

@pinnit2015 recently you had a 37 spin trigger (9 scattesrs) on Bonanza (plus retrigger) thus totalling 42 spins that paid about 1200x, what stake was that on?

I am averaging now 401 spins per feature and 108xBet with close to a  total of 5000 spins played lifetime.

all stakes sizes are in profit except for those 4e and 5e bets (and this is cause the only two times that features have occurred (both in same session) on those stakes they paid just 22.2x and 18.15x) I really should have stopped playing for the session when I had those two features either after the 22.2x or after the 18.15x. Wish I had never played 4e or 5e stakes.....

the highest base game win was on a 4e tho, paying 50.7xBet

It gets too expensive on 4e/5e stakes. Doing 25 spin batches and will be down for vast majority of batches and then they slap you with a crappy 22.2x or 18.15x or as once you said a 0.4xBet on a £4 stake.

I checked what would have happened if I had played all of the nearly 5000 spins on €1 stake... and result would be a RTP of 105.43% and +€261

instead its a mixture of 20c/40c/80c/1e/2e/4e/5e

[pinnit2015]

40p

Wouldn’t go near any slot on 4 or 5 unless a healthy balance; suicide 9/10

[ValDes]

1 hour ago, pinnit2015 said:

40p

Wouldn’t go near any slot on 4 or 5 unless a healthy balance; suicide 9/10

Why so modest... 99/100 sounds much better... and trustworthy! 

[Flatzem]

doing a Bonanza session on 60c stake in 25 spin batches, so far finished batch 19, thats 475 spins and havent had one heart stopper. but lots of GOL's... rtp is running at 80.08%

its been 475 spins since previous feature. wheres the GOLD?... best base game win so far is 31.8xBet during batch 12.

and then during batch #20 the gold arrives from a heart stopper.. whats it going to pay folks? trigger is 5.5xBet... it paid total 62.5xBet...

spin #1 dead, spin #2 dead, spin #3 dead, spin #4 :5OAK Queens = 0.36e, spin #5: dead, spin #6: 5OAK diamonds + 5OAK 9's 2 ways + 3OAK Queens 3 ways + 3OAK kings = 32.64e, spin #7: 4OAK green gems = 1.20e, spin #8: dead, spin #9 dead,  spin #10 dead, spin #11 dead, spin #12 dead........

Bonanza session loss is -20.19e,  RTP 93.22%, (HI/LO +5.94e{sp#11}/-62.19e){sp#464}, highest base game win 31.8xBet sp#295

total spins for the session 496.

304 dead spins (61.29%), 98 losses disguised as wins (19.76%)(LDW), combines for 402 losing spins (81.05%). 9 spins returned equal (1.81%), and 85 profitable spins (17.14%).

this session has lifted the avg # of spin per feature to 412 YTD (was 404) and 408 LTD (was 401)

[Flatzem]

@pinnit2015 I noticed you been winning a lot this past week , you on some amazing winning slot streak on almost every slot you play, Bonanza just say no and all that. I wish I can get some of that kind of luck too. Would be nice

[pinnit2015]

The 2 quid 17 spin, 25 ish x was disappointing though, to say the least. Felt like it was playing well - kinda was. 

Just getting back the money I put in Jan-Feb....maybe a grand up, if that. 

[Fiekie247]

Honestly had over x5000 spins on Bonanza now, besides that 800 base game hit last week, still not a free spins session yet. 5000 spins in 3 sessions so far and no bonus.

[Fiekie247]

 

I actually give up now to bonus this slot lol

 

[Flatzem]

35 minutes ago, pinnit2015 said:

The 2 quid 17 Spin, 25 ish x was disappointing though, to say the least. Felt like it was playing well - kinda was. 

Just getting back the money I put in Jan-Feb....maybe a grand up, if that. 

the one and only time during my total 13 lifetime bonanza features that was a 17 spin feature, it was on 2e and paid 50.4xBet

not had a retrigger during any of those 13 features.

So I am thinking of starting the next session at 20c (risky tho if the feature does arrive in the first 200) in order to get through a couple hundred of spins or so in case there is no feature during those as I have been having average at 408 spins between features. and then after those 200 spins I could then raise it to 40c/60c/80c/1e and thus maybe trigger it on the higher stake. I could be saving money by not playing on the higher stake during the first 200 or even 300 spins.

this is how long each feature has taken to trigger.

do you know what signs to look for that bonanza is ready to give a feature? is it something in the base game, what about counting L's like dazza does , he gets up to something like 30 L's and then it drops in. and also during those sessions where bonanza fails to give a feature perhaps put a cap on how many spins you do on it in a session to 250 spins or so then try again next day or in a few hours.

278...259...644...230...1405...228...578...315...155...139...16...562...496.

one other thing is there any clear evidence that bonanza plays differently on higher stakes than the lower stakes.

I was able to find a few decent wins on 4e/4quid/5e/5quid stake (by streamers mostly?) on youtube.

[Flatzem]

edited. removed.

[Flatzem]

7 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said:

Honestly had over x5000 spins on Bonanza now, besides that 800 base game hit last week, still not a free spins session yet. 5000 spins in 3 sessions so far and no bonus.

since that 800 base game hit that you had last week, what do you think your RTP has been during those 5000 spins. do you play at same stakes thats easy to work out then. how much you lost since that hit and how much you staked. Is it just possible that the servers remember you as a player, they could be tracking players, has taken off them the large base game win and are now punishing you for it?

[Flatzem]

9 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said:

 

I actually give up now to bonus this slot lol

 

it triggers when you least expect it, when you desperate for it then it seems to never come, what works for a lot of people they just put it on auto play and walk away, come back to a feature screen.

[Fiekie247]

1 hour ago, Flatzem said:

since that 800 base game hit that you had last week, what do you think your RTP has been during those 5000 spins. do you play at same stakes thats easy to work out then. how much you Lost since that hit and how much you staked. Is it just possible that the servers remember you as a player, they could be tracking players, has taken off them the large base game win and are now punishing you for it?

Different stakes. 4 ZAR a spin last week and this week 6 ZAR a spin. Here and there 2 ZAR. The game not eaten my balance to be honest. I played with 2000 ZAR and gotten a good 1000 spins today out of it and still had a balance of 800 zar left after all those spins. So I am still in profit. 

[Fiekie247]

1 hour ago, Flatzem said:

it triggers when you least expect it, when you desperate for it then it seems to never come, what works for a lot of people they just put it on auto play and walk away, come back to a feature screen.

That is Mr Pinnit for you... Waiting for those Dynamite on the screen when he returns 

[pinnit2015]

48 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said:

That is Mr Pinnit for you... Waiting for those Dynamite on the screen when he returns 

Haha yeah it’s good when ur balance is up and ur rolling 2 quids and above and you see the  darkened screen on your return.

Sometimes don’t need to leave the seat, went to reach for the remote on the other sofa and by time I got back there was a 22 on the board

[Flatzem]

gave Bonanza another session 400 spins at 40c/spin for a RTP of 75%.. best base game win was 50xBet cause of diamonds. Should have done 20c spins like I said I was going to do. During the session had just one heartstopper. I could have played on and on but left after 16 batches of 25 spins each. Went over to Dazzle Me and on the 75th spin hit a 104xBet. courtesy of diamonds (reels 1, 2 and 4), and three 7's on reel 3, nothing connected on the 5th reel.

[ValDes]

Gave up on Bonanza long long time ago... It requires absolute  persistence and strong nerves, none of these present in my gambling any longer I'm afraid. 

[Flatzem]

4 hours ago, ValDes said:

Gave up on Bonanza long long time ago... It requires absolute  persistence and strong nerves, none of these present in my gambling any longer I'm afraid. 

was wondering what your style was with Bonanza how many spins per session before you had enough.  That 800x base hit you had last year how many spins into the session was it?

Also did you stay on the same stake during the session(s), or did you raise/lower depending on how the session was going, use of autoplay or manual.

Also say you get a feature and it puts you up for the session, would you continue playing for some more spins to see if there is another quick feature. There are so many ways to tackle these BTG slots and I was looking for a good way. My most recent two sessions resulted in losses (496 spins at 60c/spin one feature paying 62.5xBet but still a loss of -20.19e for the session) and then most recently 400 spins at 40c for 0 features and -40.04e loss). I know of someone who plays Bonanza that has gone on a £2900 downswing and it's probably a lot more now since they last said anything bout it.

I am thinking of putting a max spins per session at around 250 (10 batches of 25 spins per batch). and maybe using a bet raise on the last two batches of the session. Now that I have gone 400 spins without a feauture and my LTD average spins per feature on the slot is 438... I should be close to another feature right?............. but then there were those times when I went 1405 spins between features. and 644 and 578... and 562 and 496......... the shortest has been 16 spins and 2nd shortest is 139. Fieki said he has gone over 5000 spins without a feature (3 sessions), how brutal is that.

[ValDes]

Depends on the current deposit and balance in play... Usually, I won't give up easily on any game, at least not until it gave at least a single bonus/feature round. Depending on the payout I would either quit asap or give it a go for another 50 to 100 spins hoping for a quick bonus repeat and hit. 9 out of 10 times it won't happen as expected... 

Rarely changing bets during the game session and if so that would be a step up or down, no drastic movements here. 

Re playing strategies... After 15+ years of gambling online I thought I have seen it all when it comes to casino slots and yet, it never ceases to amaze me  - will either bust me despite all the winning signs OR simply spit some mega win just like that, out of the blue... 

You know, the funny thing about casino slots is that once you find that 'middle ground' of your stake and it stops to bother you that much (the urge to win and the fear of losing the money is no longer there), you will most probably find out that playing these games could be fun and it's just a matter of time before big wins start to appear one after another. Why is that happening I have absolutely no clue, but pretty sure most of the experienced  folks here will confirm.  

[Flatzem]

went to do a few batches of 25 spins each. (60c stake)

batch #1: = -11.64e (RTP 22.4%)

batch #2: = -10.95e (RTP 27%)

batch #3: = -9.27e (RTP 22.4%)

batch #4: = -10.50e (RTP 30%)

batch #5: = -2.79e (RTP 81.4%)

batch #6: = +43.95e (RTP 393%) <- this batch a 60xBet base game win, I didn't see what caused it but probably diamonds.

batch #7: = -8.67e (RTP 42.2%)

batch #8: = -6.87e (RTP 54.2%)

 

so far 200 spins and down -16.74e , RTP 86.05%

its been 600 spins since last feature.

 

batch #9: +1.71e (RTP 111.4%)

batch #10: -2.70e (RTP 82%)

batch #11: +19.41e (RTP 229.4%)

batch #12: -10.59e (RTP 29.4%)

batch #13: -6.27e (RTP 58.2%)

batch #14: -9.57e (RTP 36.2%)

batch #15: -0.21e (RTP 98.6%)

 

so far 375 spins and down -25.23e. RTP 88.79%

its been 775 spins since last feature.

 

batch #16: -8.91e (RTP 40.6%)

batch #17: -1.05e (RTP 93%)

batch #18: -2.28e (RTP 84.8%)

batch #19: -4.68e (RTP 68.8%)

batch #20: -9.12e (RTP 39.2%)

batch #21: +19.62e (RTP %)

 

so far 525 spins and down -31.65e. RTP 89.95%

its been 925 spins since last feature.

 

batch #22: -6.09e (RTP 59.4%)

batch #23: +10.92e (RTP 172.8%)

batch #24: -7.50e (RTP 50%)

batch #25: -11.16e (RTP 25.6%)

 

so far 625 spins and down -45.48e. RTP 87.87%

its been 1025 spins since last feature.

why did they make this bloody slot so hard to trigger the feature on?

 

batch #26: -7.23e (RTP 51.8%)

batch #27: -9.06e (RTP 39.6%)

batch #28: -3.85e (RTP 84.6%) <- 1e bets

batch #29: +20.20e (RTP 180.8%) <-1e bets

batch #30: +0.45e (RTP 101.8%) <- 1e bets

 

so far 750 spins and down -44.97e. RTP 90.63%

its been 1150 spins since last feature.

 

batch #31: -10.96e (RTP 45.2%) <- 80c bets

batch #32: -6.60e (RTP 67%) <- 80c bets

batch #33: +11.44e (RTP 157.2%) <- 80c bets

batch #34: -8.88e (RTP 44.4%) <-80c bets

batch #35: +3.44e (RTP 117.2%) <- 80c bets

 

so far 875 spins and down -56.53e. RTP 90.25%

its been 1275 spins since last feature.

during early of batch #36 (80c stake) the feature finally arrived and paid just 28.95xBet for a total of 23.16e....

then started another batch at 80c  stake and during that batch #37 there was a base hit of 44.4xBet.....

that batch ended up +18.88e RTP 194.4%

overall its at -29.61e for the session.

and we continue on.

[Flatzem]

doing batch #58 and the slot is just unfair.

[Flatzem]

this slot is not meant for long sessions.