helenakp Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 and i was just going to say,no way Valdes could be that,if anyone catch that ,that would be Afi Afi4wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 and i was just going to say,no way Valdes could be that,if anyone catch that ,that would be Afi Wooooo...if I were to win that on a 20EUR bet...??? ...!!! ...mmmm ...I'll be happy...very very happy...hahahahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Was this you ValDes? Go bird watching (In-game replay from yesterday of a player's big win on Birds on a Wire). Hey ho, finally a win on Birds on a Wire in excess of 100 x bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyloser Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Tried these games again, fruit warp and sunny scoops..Waste of money, waste of a whole deposit. I dont get how you can get people to play these games? Pay nothing. Dead spin, dead spin, dead spin 10 times on a row then 1 x bet. Rince and repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Tried these games again, fruit warp and sunny scoops..Waste of money, waste of a whole deposit. I dont get how you can get people to play these games? Pay nothing. Dead spin, dead spin, dead spin 10 times on a row then 1 x bet. Rince and repeat. Luckyloser...I can bet you that you are playing Fruit Warp when it isn't paying time! I have played over 150,000 spins on Fruit Warp alone and I am familiar with the cycles of the game. You must play out the bad cycles at $0.10 bets...all the way...until the good cycle start kicking in! Then you can get those Mega and Ultra Wins within reasonably short intervals. There's probably no one else in Askgamblers that have played Fruit Warp as much as I have...nor anybody else that have won on it so many times as I have! But like I said before mate...if you don't like the game, you'd probably won't win on it. Sad...but true. ValDes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Sunny Scoops doesn't pay well most of the time. I've played and tested it out...and I don't play the game any more! Best you don't too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyloser Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Yeah, its kinda like the variance does not compare to the actual wins possible. I mean i doubt you can get a 2-3000x bet win on these games or am i wrong? If these dead cycles where paid for by monster wins its ok, but if 100x stake is a monster win on these games i think ill pass. ValDes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Yeah, its kinda like the variance does not compare to the actual wins possible. I mean i doubt you can get a 2-3000x bet win on these games or am i wrong? If these dead cycles where paid for by monster wins its ok, but if 100x stake is a monster win on these games i think ill pass. The highest win I've achieved so far is 601x at $0.10 bet. The next best was 585x at $1.00 bet. Numerous times at 200x - 350x bets.Can it go over 1000x bet? Very hard to say, but I guess it is possible...just as someone just won 1059x on Birds on a Wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luciana Posted December 11, 2014 Author Share Posted December 11, 2014 Awwwwwwww, what a cute game!! I love Thunderkick, games are so adorable! But I'm not sure about the payouts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderkick Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Tried these games again, fruit warp and sunny scoops..Waste of money, waste of a whole deposit. I dont get how you can get people to play these games? Pay nothing. Dead spin, dead spin, dead spin 10 times on a row then 1 x bet. Rince and repeat. Sunny Scoops can have a few dead spins for sure since it is a volatile game. Fruit Warp is not volatile in the base game but most of the payout is in the fruit modes so if you don't get those the game will probably take your money (unless you are in the zone, right Afi ). That is just the nature of games with such a payout profile. Whether or not you need a massive 2000x bet or just x100 to recover really depends on your amount of luck. Most times, a few big wins or mega wins will be enough to put you ahead for the day (or month). But if you bet hard on a game with the intention of winning a life changing amount, you will mostly likely come out of most video slots feeling disappointed. Now for some statistical considerations: If you have a game with a hit frequency of 1:3 there is a 1:9 chance of winning twice in a row but 4:9 in loosing twice in a row. So clearly, the dead spins will be much more frequent than the winning streaks. But those dead spins pay for the less frequent higher winnings. And what about bonus games? If you want to have a bonus game happen 1:XXX spins, how much payout can you put into it? Put to much, and the base game will suffer, causing many players to not win enough to experience the full game, and probably they will leave the game unsatisfied. Put to little, and those who do win the bonus game(s) will not win enough to feel satisfied. Have a too infrequent bonus game and people will complain about not winning the bonus game(s) often enough. At Thunderkick, we try to build slots with different profiles to attract different kinds of players. Some games have (generally speaking) big payoffs in the bonus games. Some have less of that and put more into the base game. Some keep the features to a minimum and focus on the base game. Some try to balance multiple features (such as Flux and Arcader) while keeping that chance of a massive payout (as with Arcader's X3 and X9 bonus game modes). The balancing of payout, features and hit frequency is very hard and even with years of experience we still learn new things every time we make a slot. Cheers! /Thunderkick ValDes and Afi4wins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Aaaah! Thank you for your clarifications Kick. Quite a mouthful to swallow and comprehend, especially for newbies and beginners. Yep...games are just like people. There are all kinds of games, there are all kinds of players...so trying to please all of them is like asking people to play Texas Hold'em. You just cannot satisfy everyone in any one go, right Kick?! For me, Fruit Warp has the right ingredients for my game taste, enjoyment and formula for wins. Just as with my favourite Playtech games Dolphin Reef and Mr Cashback. Other Thunderkick games does not suit me too well, unlike for some others...so there you go again...you just cannot please everyone with any 1 game or at any one time! ValDes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Talking about Fruit Warp, I've already got several screenshots of 150x - 350x bet wins, collected just over 2 days of playing... but here's the very latest that I've got a few minutes ago! Long live Pitayas! At Casumo... Th3 Runn3R and ValDes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yeahhh, seems like our Afi is on very hooooot winning streak this month!!! Way to go, Afi mate! Show'em who's Da Bosss! PS. Don't forget to add this beauty to the screenshot thread. Afi4wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3 Runn3R Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Eating fruits is healthy but these fruits make you happy Afi4wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yeahhh, seems like our Afi is on very hooooot winning streak this month!!! Way to go, Afi mate! Show'em who's Da Bosss! PS. Don't forget to add this beauty to the screenshot thread. Hahahaha...thank you Guru mate! Yeees, this month has been and still is really extraordinary for me...and my tail is still on fire...or is that the devils's tail???!!! Must be...cos I don't have one...hahahaha. Yep, these shots will be added soon to its rightful thread...after I'm done at Casumo. ValDes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Eating fruits is healthy but these fruits make you happy Yep, you're certainly right there Th3 mate! These fruits make me happy...but they also make me hungry all the time! Muahahahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3 Runn3R Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yeah I love those fruits too especialle Carambola with sweet and spicy sauce. hmmmm yummy, oh no I'm drooling! look what you made me do Afi, darn those fruits! Afi4wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Yeah I love those fruits too especialle Carambola with sweet and spicy sauce. hmmmm yummy, oh no I'm drooling! look what you made me do Afi, darn those fruits! Hehehehe...those fruits with black soy sauce and hot fresh chillis...woo boy! Hahahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3 Runn3R Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Hehehehe...those fruits with black soy sauce and hot fresh chillis...woo boy! Hahahaha. You know what I am talking about my friend I love hot things including food Afi4wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 You know what I am talking about my friend I love hot things including food If you don't like hot things and hot spicy food...you AIN'T Asian! Hahahaha. Th3 Runn3R and helenakp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderkick Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Don't be too sure about that Afi. There is always the Mongols. They hardly season at all. Very nice people, just not the stereotypical Asians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luciana Posted December 12, 2014 Author Share Posted December 12, 2014 If you don't like hot things and hot spicy food...you AIN'T Asian! Hahahaha. Well then, I am an Asian too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Well then, I am an Asian too Yes indeed, you can be one any time! Luciana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Don't be too sure about that Afi. There is always the Mongols. They hardly season at all. Very nice people, just not the stereotypical Asians. Oh! Really Kick? Maybe they don't use much of spices because its' so hard to get over in Mongolia! Too secluded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyloser Posted December 12, 2014 Share Posted December 12, 2014 Sunny Scoops can have a few dead spins for sure since it is a volatile game. Fruit Warp is not volatile in the base game but most of the payout is in the fruit modes so if you don't get those the game will probably take your money (unless you are in the zone, right Afi ). That is just the nature of games with such a payout profile. Whether or not you need a massive 2000x bet or just x100 to recover really depends on your amount of luck. Most times, a few big wins or mega wins will be enough to put you ahead for the day (or month). But if you bet hard on a game with the intention of winning a life changing amount, you will mostly likely come out of most video slots feeling disappointed. Now for some statistical considerations: If you have a game with a hit frequency of 1:3 there is a 1:9 chance of winning twice in a row but 4:9 in loosing twice in a row. So clearly, the dead spins will be much more frequent than the winning streaks. But those dead spins pay for the less frequent higher winnings. And what about bonus games? If you want to have a bonus game happen 1:XXX spins, how much payout can you put into it? Put to much, and the base game will suffer, causing many players to not win enough to experience the full game, and probably they will leave the game unsatisfied. Put to little, and those who do win the bonus game(s) will not win enough to feel satisfied. Have a too infrequent bonus game and people will complain about not winning the bonus game(s) often enough. At Thunderkick, we try to build slots with different profiles to attract different kinds of players. Some games have (generally speaking) big payoffs in the bonus games. Some have less of that and put more into the base game. Some keep the features to a minimum and focus on the base game. Some try to balance multiple features (such as Flux and Arcader) while keeping that chance of a massive payout (as with Arcader's X3 and X9 bonus game modes). The balancing of payout, features and hit frequency is very hard and even with years of experience we still learn new things every time we make a slot. Cheers! /Thunderkick Ok, can you give me one of your games that has a high volatile and good paytable for really big wins(in the bonus game) 1000x stake + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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