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there was this video that showed up at youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKIICpqEJzY it's about What's way more addictive than people think? and after watching it doesn't mention gambling and I went to see the comments and someone pointed that out. Rhoda Watkins (6 hours ago) Gambling. Can't believe no one said that. They must all be at the casino. it did however show that Video game loot boxes and how some people can dump thousands of dollars into trying to getting an item they wanted. Video game loot boxes are kind of like gambling for some people and it's targeted at kids.

Slot features used to mean something where you would have a drink and watch the slot dish out decent wins after all the spinning you had done to trigger it, but now what good is it when you are lucky enough to trigger a feature it most cases churns out most rubbish payouts, in land based back in the days getting a 2xBet feature would be unheard of (people would have taken a sledge hammer to smash them if they pulled that on players back then (theres a video of some guy doing that tho you can find it on youtube as well as other acts towards the machines), the features would go on for minutes and minutes as you sat and watched hundreds/thousands being added to your balance but now for example those 3 epic ape features, paying just (4.5xBet on 1.60e bet, 20xBet on 1.60e bet and 2xBet on 2e bet). and to rub salt in the very next spin at end of that 2e feature, the slot spat out a base game win of 2.5xBet just for a laugh and mockery.

Nobody on this forum or other forums except for a few honest people talks about the sad reality of slots and how they grind people down to nothing and take everything from them, that is the ultimate goal of slots by design, people like to talk/show about the wins they get but you won't see them talk about their losses cause most won't even track that. the fact is vast majority of spins are dead and if you add that to the losses disguised as wins you have an unbelievable high number of losing spins. The high variance slots will just have higher number of dead spins vs losses disguised as wins spins/profitable spins. And the low variance will have higher number of losses disguised as wins. See in the recent session combining the dead and disguised losses for epic ape we get 416 dead + disguised losses 31 for a total of 447 of 513 (87%) that's the reality folks. In addition to that is the numerous times you get where just one symbol away could have been a mega hit cause a missing symbol on reel 1 or 2 or 3. Usually the ape/diamond. As for Halloween Fortune 76% of the spins were losing spins (135 dead + 97 disguised losses = 232 of 304 (a whopping 76%). Triggering features can take hundreds and hundreds of spins cause designers know that once a feature is triggered the player is likely to leave the slot cause that can be considered the conclusion to the session so by not allowing the feature to be triggered it keeps the player playing there longer while being allowed to sink hundreds into it and teasing with plenty of near misses on the 5th reel in the case of slots that require to hit a symbol on 1st and 5th reel, or other slots that require three scatters you will get the double scatters sprinkled in just enough to keep you playing. And if you get lots of features you will get the low paying ones as seen in the 3 ape features paying just (4.5xBet on 1.60e bet, 20xBet on 1.60e bet and 2xBet on 2e bet). So even though the average number of spins for a feature on Epic Ape was a reasonable 171 the joke was that they paid only average of 9xBet, that is clear and utter theft. A high variance slot with very high number of dead spins then has the audacity to dish out disgustingly low paying features. Slots have changed and they have changed for the worse. What about the sessions of how a slot will play, they will play with the player not the player playing the slots its psychological, the balance was dip, then get back up close to starting point before again dropping then again go up close to starting point while carefully not going over the starting point cause the player would then consider leaving and thus less chance to fleece the player of more money. The inevitable drop occurs as the -ev takes its toll and the dead spins/losing spins come crashing down like a tonne of bricks before the balance cannot recover, the song is almost always the same. Anyway stay on the same slot for long enough and the swamp of dead spins combined with the disguised losses will take you down and swallow the balance. Some people like to talk about hit and runs where they test the waters hoping to get an early win and then run before the tsunami of dead spins/disguised wins takes over entirely as it is by design and how the slot makes its money. But the slot has something else in its arsenal it knows how to keep players stay for longer than they should and that is using the tricks put there by the designers, psychological tricks that keep players playing for longer to trap them in the swamp of dead spins/disguised wins, near misses, the sounds of disguised losses as wins, all these and more play a part in separating you from the funds that are being extracted carefully and expertly while you sit there and watch wondering or not being even aware of what's taking place. In addition to that is the trap that players don't like leaving a slot when down on it the slot so they will have one more spin and one more spin to get up a bit on the slot or try to cause that feature could be on the very next spin. Slot designers know this well so sprinkle in those near misses. No win is ever enough and no loss is horrible enough to keep players away (except for the few that manage to beat it and those that work on it and put barriers in place, set rules). /rant.

Did some further checks on the slot stats for the above session and more shocks are reveal to show how much of a scam slots really are. the 3 Epic Ape features had 7of8 dead spins, 15of18 dead spins, 7of8 dead spins. Epic Ape had 416 dead spins of 513 (81%) (dead spins does not include the spins that triggered the FSF even tho the triggers on all 3 occasions paid 0) the dead spins occurred 60 of 73 spins @ 0.80 bets (82%), 215 of 273 @ 1.60 bets (79%), 140 of 167 @ 2.00 bets (84%) Losses disguised as wins: 4 of 73 @ 0.80 bets, 22 of 273 @ 1.60 bets, 5 of 167 @ 2.00e bets combine the dead and disguised losses then we get: 64 of 73 spins @0.80 were losing spins (88%), 237 of 273 spins @1.60 were losing spins (87%), 145 of 167 spins @2.00 were losing spins (87%). equal returns: 1 of 73 spins @ 0.80 bets, 5 of 273 spins @ 1.60 bets, 4 of 167 @ 2.00 bets. profitable spins: 8 of 73 spins @ 0.80 bets (11%), 29 of 273 spins @ 1.60 bets (11%), 19 of 167 @ 2.00 bets (11%) (HBGW=Highest Base Game Win) HBGW on 0.80e = 40xBet = 32e, HBGW on 1.60e = 40xBet = 64e, HBGW on 2.00e = 18xBet = 36e ... Halloween Fortune had 135 dead spins of 304 (44%). the dead spins occurred 67 of 161 spins @ 1e bets (42%), 5 of 18 @ 2e bets (28%), 24 of 50 @ 5e bets (48%), 39 of 75 @ 10e bets (52%) Losses disguised as wins: 55 of 161 @ 1e bets (34%), 8 of 18 @ 2e bets (44%), 16 of 50 @ 5e bets (32%), 18 of 75 @ 10e bets (24%). combine the dead and disguised losses then we get: 122 of 161 spins @1e were losing spins (76%), 13 of 18 spins @2e were losing spins (72%), 40 of 50 spins @5e were losing spins (80%), 57 of 75 spins @10e were losing spins (76%). equal returns: 5 of 161 spins @ 1e bets, 0 of 273 spins @ 2e bets, 0 of 50 @ 5e bets, 2 of 75 @ 10e bets. profitable spins: 34 of 161 spins @ 1e bets (21%), 5 of 18 spins @ 2e bets (28%), 10 of 50 @ 5e bets (20%), 17 of 75 @ 10e bets (23%). (HBGW=Highest Base Game Win) HBGW on 1e = 13xBet = 13e HBGW on 2e = 8xBet = 16e HBGW on 5e = 5xBet = 25e HBGW on 10e = 8.25xBet = 82.50e

relapsed today after a loss at bingo, and went to lose alot on epic ape 273.45e (betting 0.80e & 1.60e & 2e) several low paying features (4.5xBet on 1.60e bet, 20xBet on 1.60e bet and 2xBet on 2e bet), and then gain of 0.60 on batman catwoman cash (betting 1e) a couple of low paying features 8xBet and and 12.6xBet, then lost alot on halloween fortune (doing 1e,then 5e and 10e bets, was going to leave this one up 10e but couldnt leave and continued with 5e and 10e bets before it dropped me by about 346.50e doing quick spins... what a relapse. all cause I was chasing a 33e loss at bingo. relapse cost me about 619.35e..... The 4 relapses that I have had since I started this thread have cost a total of 1,165.86e ... (208e {24/11}, 299e {25/11}, 39.51e {20/12}, 619.35e {28/12}). Hopefully next year won't have any relapses. down 640e for today overall, that's 64 deposits for most of you. Must be so nice to deposit 10e/10usd/10gbp and turn them into hundreds or thousands cashouts as you all so easily manage to do including accidental 5e spins, Just look at johnny and his proven system, he deposits a tenner or two every week and turns it into a couple K or more easily playing 20 hours a day on starburst and koi and any other slot he touches doing 8CAD and 10CAD bets. But the reality for most players is that they will be down many many many thousands a year playing these -EV slots that can allow players to spin at 5e/10e or higher and in a few dozens of spins be down hundreds. I won't be touching slots next year (except for maybe the occasional promo spins/free no deposits), leave it to the professionals like johnny and the other players that can stick to the 10e/20e deposits a week doing 0.20 spins), whatever you do don't raise your bets to higher than those 0.20/0.25 you will then raise it to more and more and before you know it will be 5e/10e or more. after checking on the session stats this is what is found and this is the reality not that fakeness you get from posters that boast about their slot miracles: Epic Ape 073 spins @0.80e - 11.60e RTP 80.14% 273 spins @1.60e -124.60e RTP 71.47% 167 spins @2e -137.25e RTP 58.91% total spins: 513, total staked: 829.20e, -273.45e, RTP 67.02% Batman & Catwoman Cash 58 spins @1.00e + 0.60e RTP 101.03% total spins: 58, total staked: 58e, +0.60e, RTP 101.03% Halloween Fortune 161 spins @1e -14.75e RTP 90.84% 018 spins @2e +12.00e RTP 133.33% 050 spins @5e -111.25e RTP 55.50% 075 spins @10e -232.50e RTP 69.00% total spins: 304, total staked: 1197e, -346.50e, RTP 71.05% total combined spins: 875, total staked: 2,084.20e, RTP 70.28%

had a quick look at justspin casino and it says First deposit offer only valid for new customers 18+. Min Deposit €10. Max bonus €500. 50x wagering on Bonus, 50x wagering on Free spins, game weighting applies. Max bet €3 on bonus money. General and Bonus Terms apply. so your 5e bet broke the bonus terms.

Imagine how much they would have to refund for running a faulty game if number 60 wasn't included in the RNG. I never thought about if any number is missing from those being called so I dunno how you just realised that one particular number was always missing from being called.

What's the world coming to when more and more women are ending up sad, lonely and unhappy these days, there's many things to blame for this but I am seriously considering investing in cat food companies and wine companies. Even with the existence of tinder and bumble those are just places for the pump and dump, and then you have the sugar babies and sugar daddies where rich men spend about 3K+ a month to meet some college/uni student once a week while paying for all her expenses. So even if some guy is dating a college/uni girl she can be meeting other guys on the side that are her sugar daddies.

1. congrats on managing to turn 75e into 5200e that is a lot of talent/luck you have/had there. That was all on slots? 2. were there any terms/conditions mentioned anywhere prior to starting to use the 75e cash back. Usually if its a bonus then there will be some conditions attached. 3. they could have made it max 250e cashout if they wanted to so 750e is still better than nothing and perhaps they wanted to limit the cost of retaining you as a customer. 4. ask them for some set of rules they have for cashbacks if they have any at all.. 5. reason for trying to leave SpicySpins was it cause you had lost many thousands of euros on their slots?

no more relapses, (I must make sure to keep the screen covered/and sound off when doing any free promo spins/free no deposit bonus) I didn't do that most recently and combined with the poor return from the free promo spins pushed me over to relapse. The 3 relapses that I have had since I started this thread have cost a total of 546.51e ... (208e {24/11}, 299e {25/11}, 39.51e {20/12}) enough is enough.

EXCLUSIVE: Crown Casino exposed. S.E.X trafficking, drugs, money laundering | 60 Minutes Australia this is from 4 months ago but still interesting to see how some casinos operate. among the many shocking revelations it also mentions how the Chinese high rollers would lose around $10 million dollars in just 15 minutes in some cases. (that would probably be on super high stakes baccarat).

RELAPSED ! I really thought I was done with slots for good but the barrage of free promo spins and free bonuses and a very poor payout caused me to have a relapse today, (it was mostly the poor payout from the 25 free promo spins) I had been offered 25 promo spins (previously it was 50 tho) and this time I could use it on a slot I hadn't played before (AOTG: Epic Troy {TRTP 96.45%}) so I thought I will just play the free spins and be done with it but after the free promo spins were done I was so disgusted/disappointed with the slot that it had only given a 18.6% RTP, 0.93 return of 5e staked, without any features seen so then after taking some time to think I relapsed and used my own cash to spin on the slot at the lowest stake cause I had no confidence in the slot so 20cent spins only, goal was to just get any feature and be done with it or so I thought. so on 6th spin (using cash) I get a 2.02e win base game hit (10.1xBet), that would end up being the highest base game win of the entire 354 spin session! on 11th spin (using cash) I get a free spin feature (landing 3 golden shields to trigger it) it paid a total of 1.76e (8.8xBet) disappointing! could have stopped here but I wanted to see if there is any potential of this slot so played on. was +1.88e at this point, RTP 185.45% (while using cash) on 24th spin (using cash) I get a 2nd free spin feature (landing 3 golden shields to trigger it) it paid just 0.50 (2.5xBet) very disappointing! but still played on. Could not believe this slot was giving such ***** features. was +0.18e at this point, RTP 103.75% (while using cash) on 119th spin (using cash) I get a 3rd free spin feature (landing 3 golden shields to trigger it) it paid just 0.30 (1.5xBet) super disappointing! but still played on! there was a respin feature I wanted to see get triggered! was -14.34e at this point, RTP 39.75% (while using cash) on 188th spin (using cash) I get a 4th free spin feature (landing 3 golden shields to trigger it) it paid just 0.80 (4xBet) again disappointing! but still played on! still wanted to see that respin feature get triggered! I was convinced the design was faulty for it to tease so many times for the respin feature (you need to land two stacks of the same premium symbol) was -23.99e at this point, RTP 36.20% (while using cash) on 329th spin (using cash) I get the respin feature (landing the paris respins) it paid 4.00 (20xBet) disappointing! now that I had seen all the features I was finally done with this horrible slot, how is this slot a 96.45% RTP (includes 0.99% for the JP) During the session there were multiple jackpots going off to random lucky players 285e, 188e, 297e, 232e, as well as the extra power of 3394e went off too. at end of the session was -39.51e, RTP 39.95% (staked 65.80e)(while using cash). if including the 25 free promo spins then its a result of -43.58e , total staked 70.80e, RTP 38.44%. had I not relapsed and left it at end of the 25 promo spins would have been up 0.93e but at end of the relapse result was -38.58e thus relapse cost was 39.51e. some mind boggling session stats: there were 252 dead spins (about 71%) during the 354 spins (18/25 in promo spins and 234/329 in paid spins) there were 74 losses disguised as wins (about 21%) during the 354 spins. (6/25 in promo spins and 68/329 in paid spins) total of 326 losing spins of 354 (92%). <- that's crazy! (24/25 in promo spins and 302/329 in paid spins) total of just 28 winning spins (7.9%). <- super low! (1/25 in promo spins and 27/329 in paid spins) longest streak of losing spins was 42 ! <- how can this be legal? (during those 42 spins a drop of 7.73e, RTP 7.98%) longest streak of dead spins was 13. This is another lame playtake release. My advice is to stay away from it. Clearly one of playtechs worst releases. They should be ashamed. P.S. after being robbed like that, I regained my composure and settled into a blackjack session and was able to recoup the slot loss plus some extra.

yes very poor advert and they managed to even be included in the mr green casino review at askgamblers by having the 15K hostage complaint show up at 2:35 !

it slots in so perfectly and should be like this right?

what I find strange is how big the gap is between the 1 and 0 in the 710.76 pic.

In case anyone missed this story here it is https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7796451/Jobless-father-30-won-3-75m-gambling-website-claiming-benefits.html reading through the comments found this: shefski, glasgow, United Kingdom, 2 days ago There is no way anyone can win that kind of money on a gambling site. --- Sinful, Sheffield, United Kingdom, 2 days ago 60 quid on a betting site while claiming benefits?? --- Metallurgist, Washington UK, United Kingdom, 2 days ago Only the jobless can afford to gamble. --- Dinah-1, Colchester, 2 days ago How can someone on benefits afford to splurge 60 gambling. I know I can't on my pension. --- TishTash, Manc, Western Sahara, 2 days ago They've bought five cars and a quad bike. Shame you cannot buy class, or brains. --- GeoffRich, London, United Kingdom, 2 days ago 3k a month ???? why as a home carer am i on 240 a month then ? --- Eileen, lillestrom, 2 days ago Maybe his wife will let him get a hair transplant or a toupee at least!

that's great news, any thoughts of having other football bets for the rest of the season with other sportsbooks obviously?

For thousands of British thoroughbreds that are too old, too slow, too injured or not good enough jumpers, the end is brutal: a bullet through the temple or a m.e.t.a.l bolt into the side of the brain. Then their carcasses are l.o.a.d.e.d on to freezer lorries and driven to France, where their flesh is sold as gourmet meat. Most of the animals, which could live on average more than 30 years, are killed before their fifth birthday.

When I used to play slots (now I don't except for the occasional free promo/loyalty spins/free bonuses), but back when I used to on both landbased and online I would sometimes get into sessions where I would use the gamble feature at even the higher stakes, it's so good when you do a successful gamble or two or three but the pain of a loss is quite bad too (I would stay away from the quadruple), a few years ago there was a time I was playing Agent Jane Blonde had my bet raised to 1.80e and got a feature during which I had 3 retriggers and it paid 86xBet, at the time I was down a fair bit during the session so I had the idea to use gamble feature and attempt to double it went for it and doubled it I think with black. turned it into a 172xBet payout and shot into profitland. The gamble feature is fair 50/50, there was a case at some club where this player kept betting on the same colour and kept winning and the club tried to claim that it was a malfunction and that the machine was not being random on the gambles, dunno how the case ended up or if it was really a malfunction. But it is possible to get many reds or blacks in a row so anything is possible just like in roulette.

While global warming/climate change alarmists rail against it, carbon dioxide is actually the "gas of life," without which life on earth would perish. Driessen explains in detail where carbon dioxide comes from, why it spurs plant growth, how it fights pollution, and its many other benefits. "Eliminate CO 2, and plants would shrivel and die. So would lake and ocean algae or phytoplankton, grasses, kelp and other water plants. After that, animal and human life would disappear. Even reducing carbon dioxide levels too much – sending it back to pre-industrial levels, for example – would have terrible consequences for crops, other plants, animals and humans.” “Carbon dioxide performs as many miracles for our planet as antibiotics and immunizations have for mankind. That is an amazing feat for a colorless, odorless, tasteless gas that represents just 0.04 percent of our atmosphere: the equivalent of just 40 cents out of $1,000 or 1.4 inches on a football field!” https://www.cfact.org/2013/08/19/carbon-dioxide-the-gas-of-life/

There's that wonderful joke being passed around online: After our daughter of fifteen years of age was moved to tears by the speech of Greta Thunberg at the UN the other day, she became angry with our generation “who had been doing nothing for thirty years.” So, we decided to help her prevent what the girl on TV announced of “massive eradication and the disappearance of entire ecosystems.” We are now committed to give our daughter a future again, by doing our part to help cool the planet four degrees. From now on she will go to school on a bicycle, because driving her by car costs fuel, and fuel puts emissions into the atmosphere. Of course it will be winter soon and then she will want to go by bus, but only as long as it is a diesel bus. Somehow, that does not seem to be conducive to ‘helping the Climate’. Of course, she is now asking for an electric bicycle, but we have shown her the devastation caused to the areas of the planet as a result of mining for the extraction of Lithium and other minerals used to make batteries for electric bicycles, so she will be pedalling, or walking. Which will not harm her, or the planet. We used to cycle and walk to school too. Since the girl on TV demanded “we need to get rid of our dependency on fossil fuels” and our daughter agreed with her, we have disconnected the heat vent in her room. The temperature is now dropping to twelve degrees in the evening, and will drop below freezing in the winter, we have promised to buy her an extra sweater, hat, tights, gloves and a blanket. For the same reason we have decided that from now on she only takes a cold shower. She will wash her clothes by hand, with a wooden washboard, because the washing machine is simply a power consumer and since the dryer uses natural gas, she will hang her clothes on the clothes line to dry. Speaking of clothes, the ones that she currently has are all synthetic, so made from petroleum. Therefore on Monday, we will bring all her designer clothing to the second-hand shop. We have found an eco store where the only clothing they sell is made from undyed and unbleached linen, wool and jute. It shouldn’t matter that it looks good on her, or that she is going to be laughed at, dressing in colourless, bland clothes and without a wireless bra, but that is the price she has to pay for the benefit of The Climate. Cotton is out of the question, as it comes from distant lands and pesticides are used for it. Very bad for the environment. We just saw on her Instagram that she’s pretty angry with us. This was not our intention. From now on, at 7 p.m. we will turn off the WiFi and we will only switch it on again the next day after dinner for two hours. In this way we will save on electricity, so she is not bothered by electro-stress and will be totally isolated from the outside world. This way, she can concentrate solely on her homework. At eleven o’clock in the evening we will pull the breaker to shut the power off to her room, so she knows that dark is really dark. That will save a lot of CO2. She will no longer be participating in winter sports to ski lodges and resorts, nor will she be going on anymore vacations with us, because our vacation destinations are practically inaccessible by bicycle. Since our daughter fully agrees with the girl on TV that the CO2 emissions and footprints of her great-grandparents are to blame for ‘killing our planet’, what all this simply means, is that she also has to live like her great-grandparents and they never had a holiday, a car or even a bicycle. We haven’t talked about the carbon footprint of food yet. Zero CO2 footprint means no meat, no fish and no poultry, but also no meat substitutes that are based on soy (after all, that grows in farmers fields, that use machinery to harvest the beans, trucks to transport to the processing plants, where more energy is used, then trucked to the packaging/canning plants, and trucked once again to the stores) and also no imported food, because that has a negative ecological effect. And absolutely no chocolate from Africa, no coffee from South America and no tea from Asia. Only homegrown potatoes, vegetables and fruit that have been grown in local cold soil, because greenhouses run on boilers, piped in CO2 and artificial light. Apparently, these things are also bad for The Climate. We will teach her how to grow her own food. Bread is still possible, but butter, milk, cheese and yogurt, cottage cheese and cream come from cows and they emit CO2. No more margarine and no oils will be used for the frying pan, because that fat is palm oil from plantations in Borneo where rain forests first grew. No ice cream in the summer. No soft drinks and no energy drinks, as the bubbles are CO2. She wanted to lose some pounds, well, this will help her achieve that goal too. We will also ban all plastic, because it comes from chemical factories. Everything made of steel and aluminum must also be removed. Have you ever seen the amount of energy a blast furnace consumes or an aluminum smelter? Uber bad for the climate! We will replace her 9600 coil, memory foam pillow top mattress, with a jute bag filled with straw, with a horse hair pillow. And finally, she will no longer be using makeup, soap, shampoo, cream, lotion, conditioner, toothpaste and medication. Her sanitary napkins will be replaced with pads made of linen, that she can wash by hand, with her wooden washboard, just like her female ancestors did before climate change made her angry at us for destroying her future. In this way we will help her to do her part to prevent mass extinction, water levels rising and the disappearance of entire ecosystems. If she truly believes she wants to walk the talk of the girl on TV, she will gladly accept and happily embrace her new way of life. and finally... Greta is Veruca Salt “You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words, how dare you! and for that... I want an Oompa Loompa and I want it NOW!!”

here is one maybe you haven't seen before. not just about online slots but slots in general. KaChing Pokie Slot Documentary why slots are addictive

That's very responsible of you to have some kind of gambool budget but if you blow the budget in the first week of the month (cause of say a bad run) then you have got 3 looong weeks of no gambool. That's gotta be tough. Do you at least do some kind of freerolls or playmoney mode, any free activity (watching streams or videos that have gambool content to give you something) at least to get you by till the end of the month?

why don't we have people include what it cost to get the winning screenshot, such as what they ended the day/session roughly overall P/L +/- thus people will get a more realistic view, I mean like this e.g "deposited a measly tenner and this Starburst win was during the session that turned into a 3K cashout ". Sometimes you might get people showing a bunch of winning screenshots and they will be honest and say that even tho those screenshots look real nice they ended up busting out by end of the bonus wagering. Speaking of unrealistic there's a French youtuber "Bidule" that does mainly blackjack/roulette videos and this guy puts only the winning bets into his videos so it looks like he is winning every single hand, but I am not even sure if he is using real money cause the amounts are so outrageous so likely he is a likely showman with fake money that the casinos lets him use.

over the years this pattern has repeated countless of times; get a winning streak -> get a sense of having figured it all out -> over-confidence/egoboost -> clouded judgment -> ignore redflags/signs/not take them seriously -> loss.