Dead or Alive 2

[pinnit2015]

The base game will be tighter as well, presumably, to take account of the HV features.

See someone hit a 30000x on 18p

[Kingraj]

2 minutes ago, pinnit2015 said:

The base game will be tighter as well, presumably, to take account of the HV features.

See someone hit a 30000x on 18p

30,000!! On a 0.18p that's £5,400, is that on YouTube? 

[Afi4wins]

Well, I've always said that someone would win an incredibly huge win in the early stages of any newly released game...and there it goes yet again!

A 30,000x win...a huge eye-opener for punters...a wallet-opening adrenaline push to almost everyone reading it...hahahaha.

[Afi4wins]

3 hours ago, Kingraj said:

Also they have confirmed the demo and real Play both Play the same. 

You mean to say, Trada Casino confirmed that the Demo and Real Play both play the same? 

What they should have said instead is that both the Demo and Real Play versions play using the one and same game program...but both operating under separate 'working/operating environments'...which DOES NOT produce same results!!! 

This can be proven by scientific equations, even by the the simplest Newton Law's equation of F = G*m1*m2/r2, whereby we change F=Result, G=Operating Environment (variable, not constant), and the rest being the actual game program (constant). Because G is not constant, the result of each spin is not constant (not the same either)!

I don't want to go into great details about this, but I simply hate when casinos state that both Demo and Real Play are the same!!! 

 

[Fiekie247]

They talking KAK...

Play Play 'N Go slot or Push Gaming slot anywhere in demo mode, you will be a milionare quickly and soon as you make your deposit, you need to find another job...

Demo and Real play are not the same, well for me at least and...

if it means its the same, does it not mean demo play credits and demo win can affect the actual real play RTP statistics?

[pinnit2015]

4 hours ago, Kingraj said:

30,000!! On a 0.18p that's £5,400, is that on YouTube? 

Just confirming it’s legitimacy and I’ll send it on...

if it is true, and no reason to doubt it, it’s already exceeded BTGs grandiose claims.

It was the high noon, wildlings and multipliers.

No - wasn’t me: I lost 75% of my cash yesterday on it. Complaining? Not really  - if it was on Turn Your Fortune or other Netent rubbish then yes. But you can never speak ill of the Dead (or Alive)

[pinnit2015]

Wild lines - not GoTs Wildlings

[Afi4wins]

Well, I'm really glad that some regulars here do share my opinion! 

Casinos should clearly state that both Demo and Real Money play uses the same game program...then it wouldn't be so misleading, but knowledgeable punters would know better that the payouts would be continents apart! 

[blondie]

On 4/24/2019 at 8:40 AM, ValDes said:

Thanks for sharing Mr P, appreciate that! 

Since NetEnt restricts Bulgarian players for years went straight to their site with the intention to try DOA 2 for free... The game wasn't available to Play yet but oh my... shocked to see NetEnt decided to add one more 'role' to their business model and now acting as an affiliate?! Seriously... 

https://games.netent.com/casino-bonuses/

Didn't see that one coming, especially from Netent..

[pinnit2015]

5 hours ago, Kingraj said:

Hi all, got 20 no deposit wager free spins by email from tradacasino so gave it a shot, luckily got the free spins on the 18th spin and was surprised to see the extra features so decided go for the High Noon saloon.

Paid only 21x should've tried train Heist lol  

Anyway some interesting info if it helps seen on YouTube a 5 part making of Dead or Alive 2 slot from NetEnt. 

The bonus round comes average 160ish and the High Noon saloon how it works is if you get a 2x or 3x on a reel they all combine so max is 3x3x3x3x3 = 243x Multiplier of full screen wild lines.

Also they have confirmed the demo and real Play both Play the same. 

Tested it out on free Play 6,000 spins (over three sessions) train Heist got up to 27x Multiplier on second try for 336x win and High Noon never over 30x and the original DOA bonus pretty much plays the same with a max 250+ times win. 

Don't like that they limited the bet options you can only choose level 1 or 2 not up to level 4 since I like increasing bets slowly.

Out of curiosity, Trada still not have quickspin enabled  for their slots? 

Yeah, I saw the bonus frequency of 160 odd; I’m about 300 in DOA 1. Grr. 

[Fiekie247]

15 minutes ago, pinnit2015 said:

Out of curiosity, Trada still not have quickspin enabled  for their slots? 

Yeah, I saw the bonus frequency of 160 odd; I’m about 300 in DOA 1. Grr. 

Nope they don't have, and you know if that is not enabled, you cannot Spin and Stop the reels manually either... Frustrating bro...

 

I complaint years ago about it, still nothing has changed.

[pinnit2015]

15 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said:

Nope they don't have, and you know if that is not enabled, you cannot Spin and Stop the reels manually either... Frustrating bro...

 

I complaint years ago about it, still nothing has changed.

Cheers man.

Thats enough to stop me playing some games there - I asked a while ago as well. It was just too painful playing DOA at that speed.

[Afi4wins]

24 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said:

Nope they don't have, and you know if that is not enabled, you cannot Spin and Stop the reels manually either... Frustrating bro...

 

I complaint years ago about it, still nothing has changed.

I played at Jetspin...and at one more casino too...and the fact is, the game cannot be stopped (quickspinned) as in DOA 1! It's not just at Trada but everywhere! 

[pinnit2015]

37 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

I played at Jetspin...and at one more casino too...and the fact is, the game cannot be stopped (quickspinned) as in DOA 1! It's not just at Trada but everywhere! 

My facts are....Played it at 4 places yesterday and all had quickspin/slam stop. 

 

[Afi4wins]

53 minutes ago, pinnit2015 said:

My facts are....Played it at 4 places yesterday and all had quickspin/slam stop. 

 

Really??? Oh geeees! 

[Kingraj]

4 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

You mean to say, Trada Casino confirmed that the Demo and Real Play both Play the same? 

What they should have said instead is that both the Demo and Real Play versions Play using the one and same game program...but both operating under separate 'working/operating environments'...which DOES NOT produce same results!!! 

This can be proven by scientific equations, even by the the simplest Newton Law's equation of F = G*m1*m2/r2, whereby we change F=Result, G=Operating Environment (variable, not constant), and the rest being the actual game program (constant). Because G is not constant, the result of each spin is not constant (not the same either)!

I don't want to go into great details about this, but I simply hate when casinos state that both Demo and Real Play are the same!!! 

 

Hi Afi4wins not tradacasino, its netent on the YouTube video, there's a 5 part video of the making of dead or alive 2 slot that goes into the maths to design and the 3 bonus features, originally they had Bounty hunter instead of Train heist which was low volatility but it was impossible to hit 300x win on that so they replaced it with train heist lol.

Tradacasino was were I just got free spins for the release.

[Kingraj]

3 hours ago, pinnit2015 said:

Out of curiosity, Trada still not have quickspin enabled  for their slots? 

Yeah, I saw the bonus frequency of 160 odd; I’m about 300 in DOA 1. Grr. 

That bonus of 160 odd, from my 6,000 spins I tested on demo I got 3-5 bonus average per 1,000 spins so the distribution must be extremely long.

Im gonna be doing another test today a straight one long test and record the results.

While I still personally on the side with Afi4wins demo pays different from real play, the testing should give some indication of bonus round frequency 

[Afi4wins]

Aaah...thanks for clearing that up mate. 

Well then, those NetEnt guys should have said that "yes, both the Demo and the Real Money mode uses the same game platform"...and NOT "both modes play the same"...which can be scientifically or mathematically proven wrong! Hehehe.

For further clarifications, some software providers do mention that the special features in their games would use 'special reels' or 'separate reels' when the features are in play, and would resort back to the base game reels after that. In other games, when no such statement have been made, then you can be sure that the feature games either do not use the same base game reels, or that a special additional sub-program (to regulate that base game reels) would come into play.

Ah well...I know some readers would still not believe all this...but never mind. 

[Afi4wins]

16 minutes ago, Kingraj said:

While I still personally on the side with Afi4wins demo pays different from real play, the testing should give some indication of bonus round frequency 

Hehehe...thanks for the confidence mate...but don't forget though...your demo tests must be compared with your real money plays, in order to make a relevant comparison! Why? Simply because, as I've said earlier on, your play, on your machine, at your casino, would not be the same as someone else's play on their machine, at their casino - that's because of the operating environment variables. 

[Kingraj]

2 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

Hehehe...thanks for the confidence mate...but don't forget though...your demo tests must be compared with your real money plays, in order to make a relevant comparison! Why? Simply because, as I've said earlier on, your play, on your machine, at your casino, would not be the same as someone else's Play on their machine, at their casino - that's because of the operating environment variables. 

I 100% agree testing should be done on real play but my reasoning behind demo tests are 

1) if demo pays better than real play and I'm having a hard time keeping my balance up than I know real play will eat my bankroll 

2) I get a rough gauge how often a bonus feature comes and how long it can take max 

I use all those info when I play slots to help me stay ahead of the casino 

[Kingraj]

I'll post the results today gonna start soon should take a few hours 

[Afi4wins]

1 hour ago, Kingraj said:

I'll post the results today gonna start soon should take a few hours 

That'll be some good info for reference mate. 

[Kingraj]

3 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

That'll be some good info for reference mate. 

I've started the test already on my first mobile phone, I'm at 900 spins so far and over 5 bonuses high saloon and one 4 scatter pay I'm taking screenshots of each bonus win.

I'll post results once done 10,000 spins or 100 bonuses whichever first mate

[pinnit2015]

3 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

Really??? Oh geeees! 

Yeah, asked Trada why not QS and they said it was something to do with the game coming through on the Alderney licence .Think BGO is the same. 

Regardless, it’s a painful affair at the best of times with 10x bonus rounds and worse so if super slow.

God help the Swedish with their 3 second between spins 

[pinnit2015]

31 minutes ago, Kingraj said:

I've started the test already on my first mobile phone, I'm at 900 spins so far and over 5 bonuses high saloon and one 4 scatter pay I'm taking screenshots of each bonus win.

I'll post results once done 10,000 spins or 100 bonuses whichever first mate

I’d hazard a good bit of my money that if you ran DOA against most other slots, over x amount of spins, it would have the biggest x win and probably the most 5k-10kx wins.

I remember watching screenshot threads when the first came out and it dominates the 3kx plus wins.