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Has Dead Or Alive changed?


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Guys.this is friendly place and insults are very upsetting.

 

Why all this must go publicly when there is so many ways to have private conversation? email,skype,viber,wazzup..

 

This is so disappointing. :(

 

# http://www.askgamblers.com/forum/topic/2465-askgamblers-forum-rules/?do=findComment&comment=12632

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Guys.this is friendly place and insults are very upsetting.

 

Why all this must go publicly when there is so many ways to have private conversation? email,skype,viber,wazzup..

 

This is so disappointing. :(

 

# http://www.askgamblers.com/forum/topic/2465-askgamblers-forum-rules/?do=findComment&comment=12632

You are right and I'm sorry if I upset you or any other members, but I think I have the right to defend myself against senseless bullies and attacks for simply sharing my thoughts to a discussion.

 

I think I deserve an apology for the way I was attacked by luckyloser, but I won't take it up any further here in respect to the other members.

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Guys, in your place I would try to follow the advice which Awena gave you. If a gentle and sensitive forum member like her somehow felt upset, it is your fault and obligation to stop. This is what a gentleman would do. 

 

Besides, as you two have already noticed, we proud a lot with the friendly and cheerful environment here. And I mean really A LOT! 

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Guys, in your place I would try to follow the advice which Awena gave you. If a gentle and sensitive forum member like her somehow felt upset, it is your fault and obligation to stop. This is what a gentleman would do.

 

Besides, as you two have already noticed, we proud a lot with the friendly and cheerful environment here. And I mean really A LOT!

I agree ValDes, hence my first post in this thread was cheery and meant to be fun, hence the lol's and smiley faces.

 

I'm still upset and am struggling to see what part of my first post warranted the ugly and abusive response I received.

 

I'm sorry for retaliating after this and if I upset others. I shouldn't have bit back and lowered myself to those levels.

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Of course you have right to defend yourself but offensive language and insults are not allowed.

 

I can't tell for other,but it is good to have you guys here as active members,both you and luckylooser .

 

Lets keep it that way before Valdes lost his nerves.

 

..lets be a friends! 

 

;)

 

Couldn't agree more Awena! It's not nice coming back and seeing this! If you can't be friends guys at least be civil for the sake of other members.

 

But back on the subject of DOA, is there anyone here at the moment who still likes DOA or should I say is still winning on DOA? In all fairness this game went through weeks of literally every member here winning massively on it! It's inevitable that there will be a drought at some point

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Couldn't agree more Awena! It's not nice coming back and seeing this! If you can't be friends guys at least be civil for the sake of other members.

 

But back on the subject of DOA, is there anyone here at the moment who still likes DOA or should I say is still winning on DOA? In all fairness this game went through weeks of literally every member here winning massively on it! It's inevitable that there will be a drought at some point

 

Yes, I still love Dead Or Alive and it still gets most of my playing. Actually I had some big misses for gigantic wins, but still hit decent amounts. Screenshots to be added soon. ;)

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Hehe, wow! What a rigged game,eh.. :D:p

 

Congrats man! Really beautiful combination! Awesome!!! :good:

 

Hey, don't forget to add this beauty to the mega wins thread. ;)

 

 

Yes i still stand by my statments about it being unusually cold the last few months. But it finally gave me something back.

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Without going into too much detail I can honestly say yes Dead or Alive Has changed the frequency of 5 wild card hits I ...gotta say has been few in far between ..and the previous estimations are on the money about 3 months ...but hey that's show business ..then will start hearing stories about 5 wild card hits on 18 dollars guys guys guys its random ..but hey hears a tip ;) ..."roll with the heat" . 

 

Peace !

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Without going into too much detail I can honestly say yes Dead or Alive Has changed the frequency of 5 wild card hits I ...gotta say has been few in far between ..and the previous estimations are on the money about 3 months ...but hey that's show business ..then will start hearing stories about 5 wild card hits on 18 dollars guys guys guys its random ..but hey hears a tip ;) ..."roll with the heat" . 

 

Peace !

 

I know there is something going on with this game lol.. So how do you know this? Tried it today on some small deposits and it was back to being ***** again. My theory is it pays to several people on one day then goes cold a few days before heating up again. But the last 3 months has been very cold. Hope its due for another heating up season.

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Finally hit it.. Almost 4 lines... had 4 spins with the chance fore 4 lines.

 

wow.jpg

 

3920X stake

 

OMG!!! Now this could have been a real JAW DROPPER of a win! :shok:

11 Outlaws...2 missed paylines...and a missed 10K winner...OMG!!! :shok:

 

Still, congrats Luckyloser! :good:

 

I've never caught 11 outlaws before...maybe I should start using a machine gun instead of pistols! :D

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You will hear many theories on how it all works but all I know is somehow ....when games are runnin hot ...good stuff happens cant explain it any more than that ..and in saying that I've been on so called cold games like one time at BetAt and absolutely rocked the shop with a 243 Liner Santa's wild ride hitting the feature 17 times in a row somehow ? ...way I look at it the RNG can be your best friend some days or your worst enemy .. but I pick my "hang out" spots carefully ..places that report figures and have good reps ..just feels better to be in such places ..know what i mean ? ;) .

 

Peace .

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Here are some stats from one player:

Dead or Alive: 9716 features
Wins over 1000xBet: 66 or 1 in 147 features

1000xBet+ without a wildline/5 scatters: 5 times
5 wilds on a line: 51 times
5 scatters: 10 times


So we know the feature triggers once every 150 spins on average. and you get a 1000x bet every 147 features on average(his average atleast)

That would be 150 x 147 = 22050. So you could expect a 1000x bet win or bigger once every 22050 spins.

Seeing how this player must have done +/- 1457400 spins judging from the amount of features he has recorded. This should put his stats close to the TRTP of the game(The statistical expected payout or theoritical return to player)

But i am nowhere near these stats latley. Im going to log my bonus rounds from now on. I didd this last year trying to spot a pattern but i grew tired of it.

My results from one casino:

1: 23 x bet
2: Wildline 1733 x bet
3: 55 x bet
4: 44 x bet
5: 8 x bet
6: 202 x bet
7: 12,5 x bet
8: 7 x bet
9: 14 x bet
10: 8.5 x bet
11: 4,8 x bet
12: 11.5 x bet
13: Wildline 2851 x bet 4 scatters
14: 60 x bet
15: 25 x bet
16: 66x bet
17: 25x bet
18: 10x bet
19: 31x bet
20: 31x bet
21: 12x bet
22: 12x bet
23: 34x bet
24: 8x bet
25: Wildline 2567x bet
26: 8x bet
27: 7x bet
28: 8x bet
29: 23x bet
30: 7x bet
31: 108x bet
32: 12.6x bet
33: 8.8x bet
34: 15x bet
35: 79x bet
36: 26.5x bet
37: 131x bet 5 extra spins
38: 80x bet 5 extra spins
39: 35x bet
40: 30x bet
41: 10x bet
42: 227x bet 5 extra spins
43: 7x bet
44: 40x bet
45: 73x bet
46: 8.8x bet
47: 38.8x bet
48: 13.7x bet
49: 13.7x bet
50: 4.8x bet
51: 114x bet
52: 71.3x bet
53: 6.6x bet
54: 80.6x bet
55: 30.6x bet
56: 16.4x bet
57: 15.7x bet
58: 21.3x bet
59: 30.2x bet
60: 13.3x bet
61: 13.1x bet
62: 9.7x bet
63: 16.8x bet
64: 5.7x bet
65: 13.6x bet
66: 5.3x bet
67: 22.2x bet
68: 4 scatters - 31.2x bet
69: 17.3x bet
70: 57.8x bet
71: 7.7x bet
72: 32.7x bet 4 scatters
73: 109,3x bet
74: 21.5 x bet
75: 29.7x bet
76: 24.8x bet
77: 53.6x bet 4 scatters
78: 22.8x bet
79: 27.7x bet
80: 36.7x bet 4 scatters
81: 47.3x bet
81: 57.11x bet
82: 7.3x bet
83: 12.6x bet
84: 8x bet
85: 8x bet
86: 14.8x bet
87: 71.3x bet
88: 11.1x bet
89: 27.3x bet
90: 12.6x bet
91: 35.1x bet
92: 6.6x bet
93: 24.2x bet
94: 11x bet
95: 23.7x bet
96: 7.1x bet
97: 16.6x bet
98: 7.5x bet
99: 25.1x bet
100: 6.8x bet
101: 42.4x bet
102: 48.4x bet
103: 12x bet
104: 18.2x bet
105: 5.3x bet
106: 60.5x bet 4 scatters
107:18.2x bet
108: 75.1x bet
109: 29.2x bet
110: 7.3x bet
111: 10.1x bet
112: 28.2x bet
113: 29.3x bet
114: 28.8x bet
115: 31.1x bet
116: 11.5x bet
117: 6x bet
118: 12.8x bet
119:
120: 42
121: 88
122: 38
123: bet 9 - 274
124: bet 9 - 162
125: bet 9 - 128
126:


As you can see i was very lucky early on and all my big wins a clustered together in a very short amount of features, then there is a long dead patch. Random?? hmmm

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thanks for sharing you statistics luckyloser. it's really weird, at the start you had 3 wildlines and then suddenly only small wins. i mean very small for doa. i expected more winings over 100x bet.. but as i can saw it's really weird for me. seems like doa tried to get the money back :p

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luckyloser, I'm truly impressed by your researches!! A whole little science. I think you are amazing contributor to this forum and I'm superhappy we have you here.

 

Just wanted to say that!

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