Johnny's Proven System - A method for a life long gambler to maintain control of his addiction explained

[Johnnygotthebone]

A- I have satellite

 

B- boring! Dunno how men get off on watching teenagers throwing water on naked women etc....

 

I got over the ***** thing a looooooong time ago. Kinda of exploitation that doesn't really attract me. But it used to! Lol

 

 

All good though. My urge is long gone now. I guess it was a spare of the moment thing. Feel ok now.

 

I'll be ok until Monday. It was just a quickie temptation. Stronger that I estimated I guess.

 

If u like adult entertainment.... Make your own and upload it. Maybe a tribute to someone? Lol! :)

[catapultaudio]

I read this question again and again and thought maybe I did disrespect my PROVEN SYSTEM. But the answer is actually the opposite.....

 

 

I was considering .90 per bet. Yes. That would have entailed 3x longer play.....

 

I am assuming my brain didn't want me to play. I won. Happy I won. Felt guilty depositing. Wanted to either hit 5 scatters and walk or lose fast. I didn't want to play long.

 

 

Less than four hours of play this week. Sleeping well for the first time in forever

 

 

Go see some screen shots from me. 4am was normal. 80+ hours a week of playing. I don't want that anymore.

 

 

I have conditioned myself to understand that I should not be playing 80+ hours a week anymore.

 

PROVEN SYSTEM was respected indirectly with 2.70 per spin. I am proud and happy. That's all that matters.

 

That is such garbage mate.. I've been trying to cut you some slack, listen to what you have to say ... discuss your system, for all its faults.. but that really is just an addict in denial talking there mate !! Your module 6 states you will bet between 1/100 to 1/300 of your bankroll. A sensible assumption would be this depends on the variance of the game you are playing? So, you know 1/100 on Starburst or 1/300 on DoA? Either way, you bet way over 1/100 anyway, so you didn't respect your own "module" ... but of course, there is an excuse. And that really sucks. You need a module that covers accepting your mistakes, and learning from them.

[catapultaudio]

Do you guys even gamble? A 3 $ bet is nothing if you think the game is gonna pay. I got to a balance of 35 euros the other day from a 10 euro deposit raised the bet to 2 euros went down to 5-6 and hit big up to 140. And I cashed out. It's about controlling your deposits and setting your cashout limits. If I sticked to every cashout limit like Johnny does now I would be a lot richer. There were times when I would get up to 3-400 balance and play 5 euro bets. If I win I win if not will try next time. We gamble because we enjoy it, we love it. But keeping control over yourself and your money is the most important.

 

Sure I gamble. What did I say that made you think otherwise? Even if I lived in this imaginary world of unicorns and leprechauns where I can "predict" a game is going to pay, if you are only just starting your session and have zero spins to make your 'prediction' from, your "think this game is gonna pay" is basically a case of "YES IT WILL" or "NO IT WONT" - IE, you have a 50/50 shot of being right or wrong - it should be obvious that you will be right half of the time then, surely?!

 

If you have a balance of 36 and are betting 2 euros per spin, then I assume you are fully expecting to go bust within the next minute or two unless you have some amazing stroke of luck? Regardless, if you had not got a miracle rescue, I assume you would not decide to close your account at that casino, believing it to be rigged, because your 18 spins worth of credit did not buy you a win on this ONE day? This is my point here, closing your account at a casino because you lost ONCE when you were betting way too big for your bankroll is madness - you just said "If I win I win, if not I will try again next time" - and thats a view on betting too big for your roll I can RESPECT. Bet Big -> Lose -> Exclude is one that I cannot.

 

And, €3 per spin on Dead or Alive on a €200 bankroll is WAY too big - over 90percent of this games RTP is locked up in that free spins round, and even then only 1 in 100 of those free spin rounds is likely to result in a big hit, so you have to make sure you have enough spins to reach that feature if you want a chance at a winning session. If your happy instead to take a risk on busting out quickly for the chance of a BIGGER hit, then go ahead - but dont get upset when things dont go your way. If Johnny had chosen to stick to his stated plan of betting 0.90 per spin, he would have had 3 times as much chance of hitting a feature, and DoA regularly returns over 3000x bet or MORE - upto and over 10,000x bet! - in the feature when the five wilds on a line drop into place, so even this bet was capable of delivering a $3000-$9000 win - or $2250 for five scatters - is that not a decent enough return for a $200 deposit ?

 

Still, this is just MY way of playing. I use maths. I adjust my bet size to suit the variance of the game I am playing. I feel fortunate that I have no need to set deposit limits or exclude myself from half of the internet to enjoy my gambling, and have sympathy for those who do need to do this. But to go back to your original question, do I gamble, yes I do, and I'd like to think I'm pretty clued up about it as well, which I guess it what irritates me about some aspects of this thread, and why, despite the fact I still cannot help suspecting Johnny is one ***** of a clever troll, I continue to read and participate in this thread... I'd like to think I have something worthwhile to contribute.

[catapultaudio]

I'll be quick and totally honest on this matter.

 

I really don't care if you are having some personal attitude to Johnny in some other forum or not. What I do care and appreciate however, is yours and catapultaudio's will and desire to explain Johnny that he might be totally wrong with fighting his addiction by the means of some weird system. But... In case you missed it, this place is a bit different from most other gambling forums! We built this community over the years by the means of tolerance, friendship and respect! And I would really appreciate if you try to stick by the spirit of the forum. Thank you in advance. 

 

If my participation in this thread is unwelcome ValDes, please say and I will respect your decision, but I feel I have been as respectable as possible whilst at the same time expressing my distaste at some of the content - as Himself mentioned, I can't help but feel there is a desperate need for balance on some of the topics mentioned in this thread.

 

Whilst the new thread title is a MAJOR improvement, I still think that Johnny is missing a real opportunity, if Johnny you are as serious as you profess to be about helping others with this idea - you couldn't take your "PROVEN SYSTEM" over to GamCare and offer it up as a way of helping people, for example - if you chose to present this idea in a more intelligent way I have no doubt you would not have been so unwelcome at another 'Quit Gambling' forum for presenting it. I've yet to hear you present any real reason why "PROVEN SYSTEM" is a necessary or appropriate title - and, lets say I choose to take your advice and create my own guidelines tomorrow - my "PROVEN SYSTEM" would be in no way proven whatsoever, would it? As I hadn't even used it once as yet? Do you see what I'm getting at ???

[Johnnygotthebone]

Hey Cat... Hope all is well...

 

Ty for taking time to share your thoughts in this important thread.

 

I see u r looking to understand but my PROVEN SYSTEM but I believe you are missing the whole point.

 

The whole point is for me to control my illness. To use every possible tool available.

 

I never told anyone I am God and to follow me? People are adults and can make their own decision my friend. I am not well. I have brain problems. What is a brain problem? An inability to control my gaming. If my brain was normal like many, I would be able to control myself without the need of PROVEN SYSTEM.

 

Now, u say that for me to offer this to others.... I have not succeeded yet. It's been 25 days. This needs to be done for at least one year. Conditioning of a brain after years and years of failure is not easy. Remember , brain is the issue here.

 

Do u have any idea how bad this illness is? My friend, it's a cancer!

 

It kills people every hour of the day. People losing everything including their lives. Gaming has affected many cultures. I seen things that I won't mention on here.

 

I myself have been able to at least come back from losing everything. Twice! I had help from people when I was at zero. I bounced back. Many don't.

 

I live pay to pay. I have some cash but nothing dramatic. At my age, having 100k in the bank is not as good as u may think. I worked hard all my life. I lost everything.

 

 

PROVEN SYSTEM didn't save my life. It didn't stop me from losing everything. It is helping me control this online gaming and stopping me from going back to the dark days. 24/7 gambling.

 

One day my kids will marry and leave home. All that free time to come.... OMG. Ifmindont condition my brain from now, big trouble ahead!

 

 

End result...... I want to enjoy this online gaming. Like others. Maybe one day I'll deposit 10 dollars and play .30 per spin. I wish!

 

Proper conditioning of the brain is the key to success. For me at least.

 

 

As far as the name PROVEN.... Look past that. Look at the modules and the content. Look at the discipline and the rules. Look at the commitment and the suffering. Forget the name.

 

It's working well for me. I have done everything I said I would do. I am confident that I will keep going. This thread constantly has 100 people looking at it. I used PHOTON before and saw. 100 people??? I guess many people are curious.

 

And calling me a troll? Dude, if I was gonna troll, I'd open 20 accounts via a proxy server or have 100 people from my office blast this forum. A little too old to play games.

 

 

In closing cat.... I never started my PROVEN SYSTEM to try and help others. I did it to help myself. If anyone can benefit by creating their own PROVEN SYSTEM, then good for them

[Johnnygotthebone]

cat.... English is not my first language but I will try to explain something important regarding me taking anything to a place that promotes helping others........

 

 

When a person like me, a nobody, comes up with an amazing way to better himself.....he will be met with nothing but criticism. Because everyone is better in their own head. Everyone who helps people is smarter than a nobody like me! No matter what I say, it will be scrutinized and criticized. Nothing will ever be accepted by people who proclaim that help gamers.

 

I can just imagine gemcare looking at this thread. They probably think I am a *****! Why? Because they have been trying to help people for years. They know better than me becasue they just know better. In their eyes, PROVEN SYSTEM is a joke. A thing to laugh at. A thing that will never work. Duh.....

 

 

This is about me and my illness. I am controlling it. I am doing well. That's all that matters. And to be honest my friend, what people think of me makes absolutely no difference. None.

 

What I think of myself is all that matters. And today, I think I am doing well. Very proud of myself. Confident. Happy. Relaxed. Anxious. Things I have not felt since forever.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Anyone ever heard of IGAME casino?

 

I got an email from them. They look decent. Anyone ever at there? I might need to make some changes in November. Is IGAME a good choice? I am not testing anymore. I will ask y'all before I consider adding them to a possibility. They are ranked 11th here? Dunno if that means anything or not.

 

I need to know....

 

Cash out limit

Responsible gaming is solid or like go wild

Bonus policy. Is it fair

How long is reverse

How long to get cash out in canada via wire

Is support on

 

Or anything else that can help me decide.

 

 

 

 

Thanks in advance.

[hajnrih]

I played at 0.05 bet the first 100 spins got to a balance of about 7. Continued to play raising my bets every now and then and got up to 18. Pure luck I admit. But started to see a pattern.  Not 100 % accurate and definetly not all the time. Got up to 38 and went about 300 spins testing the pattern. When I saw that it repeated I risked it all and gambled. And it worked. If I didn't see a pattern I wouldn't have bet high. I have seen that pattern in the same game in only two casinos so far. Not all the time but often enough. And it takes me 200 spins or more to start raising my balance gradually. I'm not saying I support Johnny's way of gambling with the high bets, I support how he is trying to keep control over the deposits and cashouts.

[hajnrih]

A- I have satellite

 

B- boring! Dunno how men get off on watching teenagers throwing water on naked women etc....

 

I got over the ***** thing a looooooong time ago. Kinda of exploitation that doesn't really attract me. But it used to! Lol

 

 

All good though. My urge is long gone now. I guess it was a spare of the moment thing. Feel ok now.

 

I'll be ok until Monday. It was just a quickie temptation. Stronger that I estimated I guess.

 

If u like adult entertainment.... Make your own and upload it. Maybe a tribute to someone? Lol! :)

Who said anything about teenagers. MIL*        

[Johnnygotthebone]

Granny is more appealing....

[Johnnygotthebone]

Nevermind the igame info please. Not for me. Their iphone platform is not for me. Too white.

[ValDes]

If my participation in this thread is unwelcome ValDes, please say and I will respect your decision, but I feel I have been as respectable as possible whilst at the same time expressing my distaste at some of the content - as Himself mentioned, I can't help but feel there is a desperate need for balance on some of the topics mentioned in this thread.

 

Whilst the new thread title is a MAJOR improvement, I still think that Johnny is missing a real opportunity, if Johnny you are as serious as you profess to be about helping others with this idea - you couldn't take your "PROVEN SYSTEM" over to GamCare and offer it up as a way of helping people, for example - if you chose to present this idea in a more intelligent way I have no doubt you would not have been so unwelcome at another 'Quit Gambling' forum for presenting it. I've yet to hear you present any real reason why "PROVEN SYSTEM" is a necessary or appropriate title - and, lets say I choose to take your advice and create my own guidelines tomorrow - my "PROVEN SYSTEM" would be in no way proven whatsoever, would it? As I hadn't even used it once as yet? Do you see what I'm getting at ???

 

Well, actually my post was not meant for you, but for himself. 

[Johnnygotthebone]

Woke up after a long deep sleep to an email suggesting I space out my deposits.

 

Like mon. Wed frid. To avoid this suffering. Good IDea. May consider doing this.

 

Today will be the hardest day of all. Day 5 is usually filled with gaming thoughts.

 

I need to respect myself and do what I have been preaching. I am confident I will not game but I will suffer today I know.

 

Respecting the modules is the only way. Have to stay focused or it's all for nothing.

 

Later.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Compliments to Next Casino. Account approved and money in my account in 4 days.

 

Good job!

[cocopop3011]

Compliments to Next Casino. Account approved and money in my account in 4 days.

 

Good job!

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[Jory]

Johnny is a good guy. He just wants to better himself, like all of us. Perhaps for him to believe in his system, he needs others to believe in it.

I may be the first person to have adopted "PROVEN SYSTEM" for myself.

The fundamentals of this system will benefits all individuals. Whether you consider yourself a responsible gambler, or feel you coast on the verge of addiction, one thing I’ve learnt is that creating a "system" or set of golden rules to follow, will benefit you.

We have all on at least one occasion deposited more than we wished, or reversed that withdrawal that was pending so long it tested our resolve to the max. Creating a set of rules or guildlines to follow will help keep you from making bad decisions.

All things can be enjoyed in moderation. If you are aware that something is causing you damage, then acknowledging that is the most important thing. Many people go through their whole lives convincing themselves that they are in control and they love to point the finger at other people and shout "you have a problem".

I created my own system and it's working for me. So long as I stick to the rules I set out, then no harm can come.

[broxi]

Glad you had a cashout johnny and hope you are stiking to your deposit limits this weekend. I agree Jory I like johnny as a person His ideas might not be everyones cup of tea but annoys me that some people deliberately try to make him react. Hope this weekend goes well for you Johnny and the urge to gamble stays under control. I will make a suggestion tho as I don't get one bit of your "system"

 

You admit the urge is always there but you will only deposit 4 times a week. I don't get why you make all four deposits on a Monday. Why not only make one deposit on a Monday, one on say a Wednesday and keep two deposits for the weekend when that is the time you feel the urge to gamble most.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Hey Jory. U finally posted. Lol. I am happy u are doing great man. Even though we've exchanged a few emails I think u r on the right track. Your yourself have your own personal things which you have shared with me. I admire your courage and your will. It motivates people like me to continue going. I knew about your system before you posted here and am very happy to continue heating about your progress. I know what u are going through Jory, it's not fun. Especially past demons throwing oil on that fire inside. I can honestly say that I did not gamble today. Except for 5 free spins next casino have me. I did not deposit a penny. I even opened and excluded myself from Vera and John and Igame casinos. I received emails from them so to avoid any future problems, exclusion. That's how I protect myself.

 

Jory, your goal for next week is attainable. Suffer and suffer but the reward will make up for it. You'll see. The more you suffer the stronger you will get.

 

broxi. Thanks man. Wish I could have posted bigger but for now that's it. Monday I start again. Jet and Luck are due to explode for me.

 

Next casino is first class is every way. Just at the top! There is no error there.

[cocopop3011]

Johnny is a good guy. He just wants to better himself, like all of us. Perhaps for him to believe in his system, he needs others to believe in it.

I may be the first person to have adopted "PROVEN SYSTEM" for myself.

The fundamentals of this system will benefits all individuals. Whether you consider yourself a responsible gambler, or feel you coast on the verge of addiction, one thing I’ve learnt is that creating a "system" or set of golden rules to follow, will benefit you.

We have all on at least one occasion deposited more than we wished, or reversed that withdrawal that was pending so long it tested our resolve to the max. Creating a set of rules or guildlines to follow will help keep you from making bad decisions.

All things can be enjoyed in moderation. If you are aware that something is causing you damage, then acknowledging that is the most important thing. Many people go through their whole lives convincing themselves that they are in control and they love to point the finger at other people and shout "you have a problem".

I created my own system and it's working for me. So long as I stick to the rules I set out, then no harm can come.

Glad your system is working for you Jory

[Awena]

Johnny is a good guy. He just wants to better himself, like all of us. Perhaps for him to believe in his system, he needs others to believe in it.

 

I may be the first person to have adopted "PROVEN SYSTEM" for myself.

 

The fundamentals of this system will benefits all individuals. Whether you consider yourself a responsible gambler, or feel you coast on the verge of addiction, one thing I’ve learnt is that creating a "system" or set of golden rules to follow, will benefit you.

 

We have all on at least one occasion deposited more than we wished, or reversed that withdrawal that was pending so long it tested our resolve to the max. Creating a set of rules or guildlines to follow will help keep you from making bad decisions.

 

All things can be enjoyed in moderation. If you are aware that something is causing you damage, then acknowledging that is the most important thing. Many people go through their whole lives convincing themselves that they are in control and they love to point the finger at other people and shout "you have a problem".

 

I created my own system and it's working for me. So long as I stick to the rules I set out, then no harm can come.

Welcome to AG Jory, we would like you to join us in so many threads here . cheers!!!

[Johnnygotthebone]

Little one is not feeling well. She sat on my lap while we watched Frozen, twice! There's a 100% way not to gamble or even think about it!!!!

 

Seriously speaking though. To all who are trying their own PROVEN SYSTEM... Here is something that I am realizing.....

 

 

Some distance from gaming and the habit makes it seem so small. The memories are fading and the temptation is not as it was. I guess it's like quitting smoking(soon). As the days go by, it gets easier to resist. Maybe TIME is not a gamblers best friend but it is becoming an ally to my own PROVEN SYSTEM.... I never felt so confident and in control before. And I have some extra money. Usually when I was broke I was ok! I can't explain it. I dunno what's happenning to my brain. All this conditioning is actually working. I dunno what to say. I haven't disrespected one module so far.

 

I did browse through the ask gamblers list of casinos today. Seeing no deposit bonuses and many other interesting offers. I clicked. I looked and walked. Excluded from all the top ones but still didn't even consider depositing. It was more to pass time.

 

Two days left and FULL THROTTLE in effect. Piece of cake this week end. No worries what so ever.

 

I want Monday to be a good day though. I don't want to lose. I will play as smart as I can. Pick the right games. Be patient. Walk when I have to and bet big when needed. I want at least 2k winnings next week. My goal. I know I can do it.

 

Have a great weekend y'all.

[Toiletseat]

The memories are fading and the temptation is not as it was. I guess it's like quitting smoking(soon). As the days go by, it gets easier to resist. 

Have a great weekend y'all.

Well, I am a smoker, and I have tried to quit many times. My record is 4 months without a cigarette. 

Here comes the funny part, the first 2 - 3 weeks were rather easy, but then I felt starting to feel weak, sick, scared and demented. I could not focus any more, made mistakes on the job, felt panic when I walked on the street.  At first I thought it was temporarily, just a phase I had to go through. But the opposite happened, and for everybody's better I called in sick. I felt so ill, felt lots of anxieties and had other medical issues, that after these 4 months I decided to smoke again. Within 2 weeks I transformed from an old senile, broken man into a reborn young stallion and was fit for work again, and all my problems dissapeared. 

If you have an addiction, then quit completely, or don't. There is no in between. Most people only can overcome an addiction when they hit the bottom the very hard way.  I have come to terms with my nicotine addiction, even if it will most likely kill me. And believe me, I know what I am talking about. 

[Johnnygotthebone]

Hey toilet.....

 

Unfortunety smoking is a chemical depency. Gambling is psychological

 

There is no way to make a plan to quit. I started when I was 16. I never stopped. I quit here and there for a few days or whatever but I never stopped.

 

I know what to do. I know. Cold turkey. It is the only way. And believe me i have tried it all!

 

One day I will stop. Cold turkey. No system. No plan. Just quit. It's the only way. Smoking as we speak. Worst thing I ever did is to smoke to be cool! That my fiend is a Capital Fail!

[Johnnygotthebone]

FULL THROTTLE running smooth. I miss the spins but discipline is stronger than flame.

 

I guess with age your get wiser.

 

All the seeds planted prior to starting have started growing.

 

 

Total control!

[Johnnygotthebone]

Important powerful words have been used within the PROVEN SYSTEM...

 

MODULES

RULES

FULL THROTTLE

FULL FORCE

 

One word that surpasses all of them has has not been frequently talked about is.....

 

 

DECISIONS: every action takes within PROVEN SYSTEM is a choice. A decision to apply every other power word. It is important to make the right DECISIONS in order to succeed.

 

Although many times temptation will try to deviate your brain into failure, succeeding will be based on the correct DECISIONS that a person does.

 

 

All power words answer to the ultimate POWER word:DECISIONS.