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[cocopop3011]

Yeah, I'm pretty much in aware of the casino Saga's concept with this 'boss' thing, but I was wondering why keep considering the 500 bonus as a no deposit one? How much did you deposit there and how much did you get in bonuses total? Sorry for asking, but just trying to clarify.

What now your confusing me!

 

I don't consider it as a no deposit bonus! You did.

 

I deposited £15 - didn't get no bonus only free spins.

 

I won £20 from the free spins. So my initial wagering was 40 times the £20

 

What I am saying is this...I won (during my deposited money) £500 on the boss level. On slots when you win if you win £500 this does not add more wagering....but in this instance it does...you win the £500 but it adds an additional 40 times the £500.

 

Now does it make sense!

[cocopop3011]

What I mean is I won the £500 from defeating the boss (during my initial deposit) I do not think this should be counted as a BONUS because it isn't is it....I won it. I wasn't given it as a result of a deposit or anything like that I won it on a boss level so it should be included as winnings NOT as a bonus

[cocopop3011]

Rough time Sharon! I think best way to get around playing favourite games is just bet low as humanly possible on the games they ask you to play thats what I'd do especially if I'm not keen on one for example I have a dreadful return when playing secret of the stones so i always bet minimum or max 50p on it! It's an interesting concept they have though just a real shame about wagering requirements though I do agree but it is possible. I completed more than half of 60,000 wagering on gamesos so def possible on netent.

Agreed - and I definitely don't think 20,000 is an impossible wager. That really is not my point my point is the 500 I won on the boss level really should not carry additional wagering AS I WON IT.

 

My bonus was from my initial free spins. Every thing from there on that adds to my balance from playing slots IS WINNINGS.

 

It's like having a £500 spin and that £500 coming with wagering. Or winning £500 in a bonus game on a slot - that would not come with wagering would it!

[cocopop3011]

So ... The boss levels as I said really need some serious re-consideration. Or they need to make players aware anything you win in the boss level will INCREASE your wagering.

 

Had I had known that in the first place I probably would never have deposited because there is simply no point. Your constantly adding to your wagering by defeating a boss.

 

Whereas in other casinos I deposit £20 get a £20 bonus (example) and my starting wager will be my ONLY wager..

 

I hope I've now got my point across??? :D

 

Sorry for any confusion Valdes. I have no idea where the no deposit bonus thing came from lol

[bigdk88]

So ... The boss levels as I said really need some serious re-consideration. Or they need to make players aware anything you win in the boss level will INCREASE your wagering.

 

Had I had known that in the first place I probably would never have deposited because there is simply no point. Your constantly adding to your wagering by defeating a boss.

 

Whereas in other casinos I deposit £20 get a £20 bonus (example) and my starting wager will be my ONLY wager..

 

I hope I've now got my point across??? :D

 

Sorry for any confusion Valdes. I have no idea where the no deposit bonus thing came from lol

Some players will relish the challenge and some days even I like a challenge but if there is always wagering they are no better than landmark etc lol ! Apart from the fact when wagering is completed you don't wait ni-on a month to get paid Least they will pay when you win. When just doin your quiz I thought of another game I should have suggested which is creature from the black lagoon the sticky wilds in base game and free spins and then more and more wilds added in free spins it is like the perfect slot for wagering on and £1 a spin can be done fast with quick spin function it'd win you it quickly! seen big wins of around 1000 on £1 a go! I won over 100x my bet a few times in one session. Thats the games to go on creature and jack n beanstalk n just alternate !

[ValDes]

Well, Sharon, I think you are not the only, who is getting a bit confused with Casino Saga, its Boss game and the bonus policy in general...

 

This is what's stated for the Boss game:

 

 

So, it is stated after all that rewards from the Boss game are XP, bonus money and free spins.

 

The part with the confusion comes on a later stage when trying to determine how and why the wagering requirements have been applied over a specific bonus...

 

This is from their FAQ section regarding bonuses:

 

 

And look what's stated in the Casino terms and conditions:

 

 

It appears that according to the casino terms, your 500 reward from their Boss game should have carried 50 x wagering. But if we follow the information stated within their FAQ, then it should be turn over only 30 x times. And yet, it was given to you with 40 times WR, as if it was a reward coming from Free Spins?! What the heck is going on here?! Complete mystery...

[cocopop3011]

I think they definitely need to re-look at their terms.

 

It's just such a shame because now I personally, and this is just me, will never look forward to a big win on a boss again (if I was to deposit again I mean)

 

But I know there will be some players who may even enjoy this "challenge" as bigdk said, but unfortunately I'm just not one of those people.

 

I'd much rather just have the 500 without any wagering :D : D

[yapro]

Yes, 500 free, 1000 free, even 10000 free with 40 x wagering it is most likely will end with zero on account. They should give lesser prizes, but without WR. Something like 100 euro free cash, instead of this stupid 500 x 40 wr.

[cocopop3011]

Yes, 500 free, 1000 free, even 10000 free with 40 x wagering it is most likely will end with zero on account. They should give lesser prizes, but without WR. Something like 100 euro free cash, instead of this stupid 500 x 40 wr.

Couldn't have said that better myself Yapro.

That is exactly what they should do

[ValDes]

Hey, I bust my *** doing all these screenshots today and yet no one even press the like button under this post?!

 

As a very famous woman at this forum used to say - "How Rude!" 

[helenakp]

Hey, I bust my *** doing all these screenshots today and yet no one even press the like button under this post?!

 

As a very famous woman at this forum used to say - "How Rude!" 

 yes Valdes,Sharon is rite,how ruuude,I did "like"

[ValDes]

Just kidding, my dear Macedonian neighbor! I'm in such a good mood today... almost finishing with the big reading, seeing the light at the end of the tunnel...

[cocopop3011]

Hey, I bust my *** doing all these screenshots today and yet no one even press the like button under this post?!

 

As a very famous woman at this forum used to say - "How Rude!" 

Hahahaha - sorry valdes. I did indeed like your post in my head i just forgot to like it on here.

Hahaha!! I have well and truly been told!

[bigdk88]

Yes, 500 free, 1000 free, even 10000 free with 40 x wagering it is most likely will end with zero on account. They should give lesser prizes, but without WR. Something like 100 euro free cash, instead of this stupid 500 x 40 wr.

even like €100 bonus with only 5-10x would not be that hard to do just a case of staying over the 100 mark and getting through most of it then betting higher to complete the wagering. That wouldn't be so bad...

[bigdk88]

Here is my plan for wagering firstly plan what game you are going to play last(for me DOA or jack n beanstalk,creature)

Bet it based on your balance for example have £30 bet no higher than 30p I'd advise 15p actually it can nail wagering quicker than you think. for £100 balance bet no higher than £1 or 50p even safer.

In other words bet no more than 1% of your balance at a time if you are impatient bet on slots with quick spin(secret of the stones,wild turkey,jack hammer 2,lucky angler just a small selection to pick from!)

Ok this is how I nailed £700 and £600 wagering within a day of each other £40 starting for 1 and £14 for the other! I started with Fruit shop at min bet after a good win of at least 50-60x I change to magic portals, evolution and fruit case again betting with bankroll management after good fruitcase win at least 60-70x I tend to try a few at 40p because this slot can run on streaks(other day free falls retriggered for me 4 times begun with 20 falls!!) when done with this you should have decent balance unless really unlucky.

 

The next slots I play are really crucial for this to work and this is in no particular order wild witches,excalibur and trolls all at min bet max lines.Again you can only up the bet when you have gone higher so when at £70-80 40p is relatively safe as long as the slots winning when it goes down £15 or so in balance get off it and switch to another of these skins again begin at min bet and max lines(or bet compared to balance as I said before) by now you will find very quickly you should be nearly a quarter through wagering req.

Now you can play games that eat a bit more in purpose of defeating this blasted wagering! I would suggest games like wild water,wild turkey and jack and the beanstalk again stick to bet in comparison to balance other good slots to play to beat wagering and potentially win big is flowers,south park,simsalabim,dragon island( for dragon island stick to min bet of 30p,keep golden line bet open it's really handy to win large) Egyptian heroes,Jack hammer,Subtopia(the games mentioned are higher variance but not quite as high risk as DOA etc.. Now after you have played at least 60-80 rounds on each of these or a few of them you will find hey presto wagering way way less to do !

I next try games like Reel Steal begin at 18p normally regardless of balance! This game is very high risk!! try 50 rounds and if balance has gone down by lots or not broken even and you still have lots left try a few at 27p about maybe 30spins or so this especially effective if you have not had free spins yet !

Now check wagering left it will be way less by now next when not much wagering left try DOA but as with reel steal take care with this game even with 100 balance I'd recommend max of 27p bet!! 

Seriously this game is very very very high risk!! Even as bad if not worse than BDBA! try 100 rounds and if you are down almost 100 rounds worth which would be £27 hit to the balance or even close to that gtf off it!

It is worth remembering how bad doa was though because it is useful info for later on ! Next good idea to try gonzos quest,maybe try fruit shop at a slightly bigger bet than you started too check that wagering and I guarantee if these games pay for you like they do for me you will be through it also south park a relatively safe slot regular payouts now try and hammer the wagering!!! A few more games good to wager on are Twin spin,Big bang I am very sure if you play like this you will complete wagering within a couple of hours max 3-4 hours unless really bad luck just use common sense if game losing badly! The main reason for betting small is when you have large balance you are more likely to bet high but if your balance is not so big you are less inclined to do this that's why I play games like DOA later on !! Good luck and hope this idea helps some of you at least! remember do not bet more than 1% of your bankroll and not more than a quarter of 1% on DOA,Reel Steal etc ! Keep on checking the wagering once you have played a certain number of spins/money this why autoplay really good function you can not only figure how long ago you had free spins/bonus you can sort of keep track of wagering(this is probably why some scummy casinos don't allow autoplay it gives players that advantage!!).

 

Oh and as Columbo used to say "there is just one more thing ma'am" Autoplay and click advanced change it to stop on free spins,stop when win exceeds say if betting 40p get it to stop at a £20 win this gives a second to think hmm maybe I should switch game etc gives you time to think.

[Luciana]

Wow, do you all have plans for wagering??

[cocopop3011]

Wow, do you all have plans for wagering??

I don't unfortunately. Well...I say I don't. I will try the slots I've had the best luck in for wagering in the past and if it doesn't work I just play whichever slots I like, sticking to the ones that are paying.

[Luciana]

And those slots that brought you luck in the past, usually bring the luck again and help you complete the wagering? 

[bigdk88]

I don't unfortunately. Well...I say I don't. I will try the slots I've had the best luck in for wagering in the past and if it doesn't work I just play whichever slots I like, sticking to the ones that are paying.

Play based on variance and games that you have had luck on it is just so important not to bet too big too quickly as I said money stuck in wagering is not worth anything! Therefore it is pointless to win large right away when you have a long road to go it just stinks because if you lose it leaves a rotten taste in your mouth I feel.

[cocopop3011]

Play based on variance and games that you have had luck on it is just so important not to bet too big too quickly as I said money stuck in wagering is not worth anything! Therefore it is pointless to win large right away when you have a long road to go it just stinks because if you lose it leaves a rotten taste in your mouth I feel.

I have to disagree...for me....I always do best if I do win big first, which gives me lots of money for wagering. But that's just me

[cocopop3011]

And those slots that brought you luck in the past, usually bring the luck again and help you complete the wagering?

 

Sometimes! Sometimes not though. You mentioned the word luck....and that's what it's all about. I don't have any strategies or anything. I just play what I enjoy...sometimes I am lucky sometimes I'm not....but it works for me.

But the slots bigdk mentioned in his posts are excellent for wagering, I definitely agree with that!

[ValDes]

I have to disagree...for me....I always do best if I do win big first, which gives me lots of money for wagering. But that's just me

 

Same here. Cannot actually remember if there was a successful withdrawal without a big hit for me when trying to wager a bonus.  

[bigdk88]

Same here. Cannot actually remember if there was a successful withdrawal without a big hit for me when trying to wager a bonus.

 

I have to disagree...for me....I always do best if I do win big first, which gives me lots of money for wagering. But that's just me

But do you guys deny that dollar signs don't come into your eyes when you hit big even in a bonus and then bet much higher than usual and more often than not lose it? This is my big problem I am well disciplined when my bank balance is not too high but when it gets high I bet higher and it can go really quick! in fact even scarier is 50p a spin can drain a 200quid bank balance faster than you'd think.

[ValDes]

But do you guys deny that dollar signs don't come into your eyes when you hit big even in a bonus and then bet much higher than usual and more often than not lose it? This is my big problem I am well disciplined when my bank balance is not too high but when it gets high I bet higher and it can go really quick! in fact even scarier is 50p a spin can drain a 200quid bank balance faster than you'd think.

 

Yeah, I know exactly what you are talking about. I still face the same problem from time to time, especially when the first 1-2 games I start to play pays good. The good news is that sometimes it doesn't matter if I can control it or not since Lady Luck is upon my shoulder and I win no matter how many stupid things I am trying to do. 

[cocopop3011]

But do you guys deny that dollar signs don't come into your eyes when you hit big even in a bonus and then bet much higher than usual and more often than not lose it? This is my big problem I am well disciplined when my bank balance is not too high but when it gets high I bet higher and it can go really quick! in fact even scarier is 50p a spin can drain a 200quid bank balance faster than you'd think.

 

Agreed also