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[cocopop3011]

1 hour ago, klickdotdev said:

Tossing my hat into the ring once again. 209x on Buffalo King Megaways via Mcluck. 

 

edit: just for fun, since I don't think Spree.com is listed on AskGamblers, but last week I had an 872x on 3 Dancing Monkeys. It was a sicko win. Here's a link to the replay: https://global.cdn4cloud.net/f3qU4WGFLr

Unfortunately we cannot allow social casino entries as you are not playing with real money. 

[KLICK]

38 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said:

Unfortunately we cannot allow social casino entries as you are not playing with real money. 

What social coins are you talking about? Casinos like McLuck, Stake.us, WowVegas, Chumba, LuckyLand, etc,  all use "SC", which stands for sweepstakes coins, or sweepstakes cash and is redeemable 1:1 for dollars. 1SC = $1. It's something of a legal loophole these types of casinos use so they can operate within the bounds of United States law and not be regulated like an IRL casino, but this link will probably help explain it better. The tl;dr of it is that I was gambling with real dollars and cents in both of the things I posted.

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[KLICK]

This is crazy if my submission from McLuck isn't allowed. I was playing with real money. It's no different from the other contest I entered in April and my submission from WowVegas was allowed with no problem. I wasn't using gold coins, or whatever each individual casino calls their currencies. Sweepstakes coins are redeemed 1:1 for USD. 

Look at the McLuck store. 

[Blackjax]

12 minutes ago, klickdotdev said:

This is crazy if my submission from McLuck isn't allowed. I was playing with real money. It's no different from the other contest I entered in April and my submission from WowVegas was allowed with no problem. I wasn't using gold coins, or whatever each individual casino calls their currencies. Sweepstakes coins are redeemed 1:1 for USD. 

These coins are also earned by daily activities and converting points. It's unfair to others who play with real money. This is why it was decided to ban SC casinos and gameplay.

[Blackjax]

Read This.

On 4/23/2024 at 1:23 AM, cocopop3011 said:

@Icy Unfortunately I cannot accept the social casino screenshot. I understand that it’s not stated in the rules, but no one has showed interest in these casinos before, so I guess it’s just never crossed my mind to exclude them. 
 

I understand that you can withdraw “ real money” from this casino but it is an unfair advantage because you can collect coins for daily log ins without spending any money. Therefore I have to deem the screenshot not real money. 
 

However, since this is a loophole as such,  I can allow you to replace the screenshot if you have another one from that day or within the 48 hour timeframe. You have permission to edit the screenshot with another to qualify

 

[Icy]

Just now, Blackjax said:

Read This.

 

Scarred for life! @cocopop3011

[KLICK]

this is some bullshit. I participated in April's contest with a submission from WowVegas, which is operated the same exact way as McLuck, and nobody had an issue with that. both casinos are listed on AskGamblers, I used real money to wager, and my submissions aren't allowed all of a sudden? 

[KLICK]

If the daily login bonuses from sweepstakes casinos disqualify them from being able to be used in these contests, I think any casino that offers a deposit bonus of any sort shouldn't be allowed either. That's not fair to me if there's casinos out there giving out bonuses that I can't use based in other parts of the world. 

[cocopop3011]

4 minutes ago, klickdotdev said:

this is some bullshit. I participated in April's contest with a submission from WowVegas, which is operated the same exact way as McLuck, and nobody had an issue with that. both casinos are listed on AskGamblers, I used real money to wager, and my submissions aren't allowed all of a sudden? 

First of all, speaking like that won't get you nowhere so I suggest you calm down before we even begin to talk about this. 

Yes, you can redeem your social coins for real money, but you have not used real money to get the coins. 

Please explain to me how you got the social coins to play  with, please talk me through the process and include a screenshot if you can of a real money deposit.

[cocopop3011]

1 minute ago, klickdotdev said:

If the daily login bonuses from sweepstakes casinos disqualify them from being able to be used in these contests, I think any casino that offers a deposit bonus of any sort shouldn't be allowed either. That's not fair to me if there's casinos out there giving out bonuses that I can't use based in other parts of the world. 

No not really because for a deposit bonus you have to make a real money deposit to get the bonus. for daily log ins, you can log in every day without spending any money. So, we need to establish exactly how you have got these coins please.

[cocopop3011]

19 minutes ago, Icy said:

Scarred for life! @cocopop3011

You'll get over it I am sure 

[KLICK]

14 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said:

First of all, speaking like that won't get you nowhere so I suggest you calm down before we even begin to talk about this. 

Yes, you can redeem your social coins for real money, but you have not used real money to get the coins. 

Please explain to me how you got the social coins to play  with, please talk me through the process and include a screenshot if you can of a real money deposit.

I initially received $40 from the McLuck customer service/loyalty team yesterday, and those funds are the ones I was using at the time of the screenshot. Why did I receive $40 from McLuck? Because I've spent thousands there over the last year and wagered many more. My most recent purchases made on McLuck were on the 11th and 12th. Besides that, bonus funds are explicitly allowed as per the rules, so I don't know why I'm being singled out here.  Do you want the last 4 digits of my credit and debit cards too? My drivers license? Bank statement? 

I'd like to hear how everyone else received the money that they were wagering with for this contest now too. I have no problem being transparent. 

[Blackjax]

1 minute ago, klickdotdev said:

I initially received $40 from the McLuck customer service/loyalty team yesterday, and those funds are the ones I was using at the time of the screenshot. Why did I receive $40 from McLuck? Because I've spent thousands there over the last year and wagered many more. My most recent purchases made on McLuck were on the 11th and 12th. Besides that, bonus funds are explicitly allowed as per the rules, so I don't know why I'm being singled out here.  Do you want the last 4 digits of my credit and debit cards too? My drivers license? Bank statement? 

I'd like to hear how everyone else received the money that they were wagering with for this contest now too. I have no problem being transparent. 

I received my money with deposits of over €450 taking 'deposit bonuses.' I spent real money and got bonus with real money. Not for logging in at the casino.

[Blackjax]

2 minutes ago, klickdotdev said:

 Besides that, bonus funds are explicitly allowed as per the rules, so I don't know why I'm being singled out here.  

Same thing happened with @Icyas well and he did not behave like you. You are not being singled out this has happened before.

[KLICK]

42 minutes ago, Blackjax said:

These coins are also earned by daily activities and converting points. It's unfair to others who play with real money. This is why it was decided to ban SC casinos and gameplay.

You can't actually convert gold coins (fake currency) into sweeps cash (real currency). It's just simply not a thing at any reputable sweepstakes casino. If you have any actual examples of people converting gold coins directly into sweeps cash I'd love to see it.

[Blackjax]

1 minute ago, klickdotdev said:

You can't actually convert gold coins (fake currency) into sweeps cash (real currency). It's just simply not a thing at any reputable sweepstakes casino. If you have any actual examples of people converting gold coins directly into sweeps cash I'd love to see it.

I have no intention of wasting my time playing with play money. I have read the terms and conditions of play money and it's quite clear. The number of coins you get for such a small amount clearly shows its play money.

[Blackjax]

This is how Gold coins and SC are obtained.

[Blackjax]

Retracted.

 

[KLICK]

Just now, Blackjax said:

I have no intention of wasting my time playing with play money. I have read the terms and conditions of play money and it's quite clear. The number of coins you get for such a small amount clearly shows its play money.

You're looking at the wrong thing. Nobody buys these coin packages for the gold coins. They buy them for the sweeps coins, but these packages are worded in such a way that the sweeps coins are a "bonus" for buying gold coins. Because if you could directly buy SC, then they would have more laws to follow and be regulated more tightly. Yeah, it's a pretty stupid loophole, but I don't make the rules. 

And so the other quirk about these casinos is that they're technically "sweepstakes casinos" and in order to be considered a sweepstake, there must be a way to enter without having to purchase anything. This is why you see daily login bonuses, and why most of these places also have a physical mailing address you can send a code to via postcard to be credited for some free coins. There must be an AMOE, or alternate method of entry. 

I'm getting pretty into the weeds here on this topic, but there seems to be a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of how these places work. 

[cocopop3011]

49 minutes ago, KLICK said:

initially received $40 from the McLuck customer service/loyalty team yesterday, and those funds are the ones I was using at the time of the screenshot. Why did I receive $40 from McLuck? Because I've spent thousands there over the last year and wagered many more. My most recent purchases made on McLuck were on the 11th and 12th. Besides that, bonus funds are explicitly allowed as per the rules, so I don't know why I'm being singled out here.  Do you want the last 4 digits of my credit and debit cards too? My drivers license? Bank statement? 

Can you please show me your depositing history at the casino. You are free to send this to me privately if you prefer. I need to make sure you are spending real money funds at this casino. 

[cocopop3011]

30 minutes ago, KLICK said:

And so the other quirk about these casinos is that they're technically "sweepstakes casinos" and in order to be considered a sweepstake, there must be a way to enter without having to purchase anything. This is why you see daily login bonuses, and why most of these places also have a physical mailing address you can send a code to via postcard to be credited for some free coins. There must be an AMOE, or alternate method of entry. 

I am aware of how sweepstake casinos work, which is why we need to establish that you are a real money depositor and not claiming the free daily bonuses only, because I’m sure you can see how unfair that would be. This is not aimed at you, I would do this to any member who entered. You’ve already been made aware that I had to disqualify the screenshot of one our most trusted members here too, so please don’t think this is aimed at you. 

[cocopop3011]

ANNOUNCEMENT - with immediate effect we do not accept any screenshots from sweepstakes and social casinos. This will be included into the official rules for every future contest. 
 

Regarding the screenshot issued above I will work with the member to come to a resolution. 

[Blackjax]

@cocopop3011I was thinking about making a post that I have received my AG payment. Other members would freak out saying they haven't then you  would have to chase it with your team. It would make you so mad. But now after this social casino issue if I do something like this I might get banned from forum.

[Icy]

20 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said:

This is not aimed at you, I would do this to any member who entered. You’ve already been made aware that I had to disqualify the screenshot of one our most trusted members here too, so please don’t think this is aimed at you. 

[KLICK]

42 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said:

ANNOUNCEMENT - with immediate effect we do not accept any screenshots from sweepstakes and social casinos. This will be included into the official rules for every future contest. 
 

Regarding the screenshot issued above I will work with the member to come to a resolution. 

I sent you a DM with my transaction history. 

Y'all can run contests any way that you please, but a blanket ban on anything that's considered a sweepstakes or social casino is pretty extreme. Most Americans would either have to use a VPN, or take a risk playing on one of those garbage Inclave sites.