Noticing some Changes at Video Slots Casino :

[Tane Marshall]

Ok so i've been with Video Slots Casino for a while now over level 80 , 

And now all of a sudden I'm noticing loyalty rewards , free spin tournaments , and in general a reduction in the autopilot program model 

paying back to players for the effort and deposits which I find most curious . 

Typical Examples are the reduction for the wheel which should be gold at 80 I use to get 225 dollars as the lowest reward and that was 

regular from lvl 70+ onwards now its reduced to a measly 25 dollars .....I see no loyalty rewards or anything to inspire me to deposit ...

its like bonus section never gets used these days . 

Then there's the so called free spin tournaments we now have ones that are 250 , 750 , and etc and with thousands of players playing 

its near impossible to get any spins times change I guess ::shrugs:: . 

 

 

[Afi4wins]

More and more new casinos are regularly appearing...

the competition between casinos is direly exhausting...

surviving in these times needs more belt tightening...

to us players and gamblers, it's just too excruciating!

[Fiekie247]

Casinos care more about new signups than player retention. 

Re: Videoslots - They do not care about loyalty, you hardly get a spin on their Jackpot wheel these days - which you used to get whenever you level up or had a win streak in certain new games, when you unlock trophies. Everything is limited.

Maybe and MAYBE if you lucky a battle ticket for a day to free rolls, but literally free rolls tournaments, weekend booster and  clash of spins is the best you can get - And you need to wager alot of money to get something out of these supposedly "loyalty" features.

You can lose 10k in one day at Videoslots, support would not even be able to add a freebie or some spins if you asked for it.

[cocopop3011]

1 hour ago, Fiekie247 said:

Casinos care more about new signups than player retention. 

Re: Video Slots - They do not care about loyalty, you hardly get a Spin on their Jackpot wheel these days - which you used to get whenever you level up or had a win streak in certain new games, when you unlock trophies. Everything is limited.

Maybe and MAYBE if you lucky a battle ticket for a day to free rolls, but literally free rolls tournaments, weekend Booster and  clash of spins is the best you can get - And you need to wager alot of money to get something out of these supposedly "loyalty" features.

You can lose 10k in one day at Videoslots, support would not even be able to add a freebie or some spins if you asked for it.

They used to be the top casino loyalty in my books, Used to get loads from them, slowly I started to see it decrease and decrease. 

[blondie]

This is very true. I've seen some comments from Videoslots on another forum and they say that they changed the distribution for the promotional budget, but that the budget itself hasn't changed. But in reality it doesn't feel like it. I mean, seeing their battles where they used to have big free spins prize pools or 500eur prize pool were dropped significantly. The 500eur prize pool first place used to win 95eur, now it's less than 15eur for first place I believe? I also heard that many of the high wheels have been changed as well, and those take ages to get. Not worth my time anymore.

[pinnit2015]

1 hour ago, blondie said:

This is very true. I've seen some comments from Video Slots on another forum and they say that they changed the distribution for the promotional budget, but that the budget itself hasn't changed. But in reality it doesn't feel like it. I mean, seeing their battles where they used to have big free spins prize pools or 500eur prize pool were dropped significantly. The 500eur prize pool first place used to win 95eur, now it's less than 15eur for first place I believe? I also heard that many of the high wheels have been changed as well, and those take ages to get. Not worth my time anymore.

That's because despite their protestations, it has changed. Rather than heading to Northern Europe, it's gone closer to the Penguins.  You don't need to be a bean counter to notice it. They reduce the XP requirement to 1000xp and there's no way they've kept the game budget the same.  They spoke about better maths - yeah, for the casino, not the player. Red Wheels 3 years ago used to give cash awards or upgrades, now they're 50FS on a 10p game most of the time. 

To be fair, they're somewhat a victim of their own success - any deviation from their standards back in 2017 etc will be heard and felt more than other places. 

Public wise, think they're trying to do a good PR game and say nothing's change but anyone who's played there pre-94% slots will know it has. They were never a luxury casino....but they've certainly gone to the bottom end of the market in the last few years. Despite what the owner on other forum's says

[cocopop3011]

21 minutes ago, pinnit2015 said:

Despite what the owner on other forum's says

That'll teach you for reading other forums 

[blondie]

2 hours ago, pinnit2015 said:

That's because despite their protestations, it has changed. Rather than heading to Northern Europe, it's gone closer to the Penguins.  You don't need to be a bean counter to notice it. They reduce the XP requirement to 1000xp and there's no way they've kept the game budget the same.  They spoke about better maths - yeah, for the casino, not the player. Red Wheels 3 years ago used to give cash awards or upgrades, now they're 50FS on a 10p game most of the time. 

To be fair, they're somewhat a victim of their own success - any deviation from their standards back in 2017 etc will be heard and felt more than other places. 

Public wise, think they're trying to do a good PR game and say nothing's change but anyone who's played there pre-94% slots will know it has. They were never a Luxury....but they've certainly gone to the bottom end of the market in the last few years. Despite what the owner on other forum's says

Completely agree with you. The thing is, they say they had to cut budgets to change the promotions, such as revert some players to the old Weekend Booster, also they removed Friday Mystery and Monday Frenzy, keeping it the "Mystery Mondays". However, in the past months, almost none of their battles were running smoothly, almost always the queues got messed up, games don't work etc., so in reality many players stopped playing these battles as it's more of a hassle than a reward. I heard that even the Gold wheel has been reduced, which takes forever to get. I can understand the financial aspect of it, but for the average player they've cut off a lot of excitement, considering there's never a regular bonus offer, only the wheels and battles.

[pinnit2015]

They should aim for : less is more

[Fiekie247]

That wheel now comes only on special occasions like the valentine thing to complete missions. Every 10 levels up you get a wheel.

I have unlocked trophies and not a single wheel in the last 3 - 6 months on both MR Vegas and Videoslots.

That Clash of spins is BULL!

[pinnit2015]

People go on, normally the VS brain washed, about how GREAT their rewards are - lets put in context: you wager 50k between levels for a 50 quid reward. Is it the worst? Nah. But it's certainly a far cry from the best - when Novibet were in the UK, and i played thre, i was getting 50-100 quid for about 5k wagering on average, for example. 

[Tane Marshall]

I'm literally grasping at straws right now deciding where to play i had a streak in god of rock that just magically went dead black screen i just don't feel safe anywhere anymore 

nothing feels right man [shakes head] I'll vouch for RIZK and BETSSON at this point nothing else VS will have to make a lot of changes and I mean a lot im so digusted I'm not 

even posting big wins anymore I've had them but its like back of my mind wow big deal ...you know what I mean ? . 

 

-Ast

[cocopop3011]

13 hours ago, Astaroth said:

I'm literally grasping at straws right now deciding where to play i had a streak in god of rock that just magically went dead black screen i just don't feel safe anywhere anymore 

nothing feels right man [shakes head] I'll vouch for RIZK and Betsson at this point nothing else VS will have to make a lot of changes and I mean a lot im so digusted I'm not 

even posting big wins anymore I've had them but its like back of my mind wow big deal ...you know what I mean ? . 

 

-Ast

Yep, I get you! This is how it pretty much ended for me, I hardly play at all these days! Things just are not the same for me,.

[Tane Marshall]

12 hours ago, cocopop3011 said:

Yep, I get you! This is how it pretty much ended for me, I hardly play at all these days! Things just are not the same for me,.

This is just a typical example of the garbage I've had to put up with around when games win streak there's so many of them I could 

use as examples this is just one . 

 

As you can clearly see there is an internet connection functioning bottom right corner . 

[Afi4wins]

3 hours ago, Astaroth said:

This is just a typical example of the garbage I've had to put up with around when games win streak there's so many of them I could 

use as examples this is just one . 

 

As you can clearly see there is an internet connection functioning bottom right corner . 

Yep, I too tend to get such 'connection lost' errors, especially when playing PlaynGo and Gamomat games. Such errors hardly ever happen with my Playtech games at my Asian casino, but at times the games do suffer from a slight drag due to bad internet connections.

Like I've said before, and still do believe, playing at European casinos is not as good as playing at Asian casinos!

[Fiekie247]

In all Honestly, despite the SHiittt happening at VS and Mr Vegas, I still give them my money and rightfully so have been the last 2 weeks tbh.

Had some decent luck, spend roughly $200 in deposits, took out around $1200 k from tourney winnings and regular gameplay - Which is okay for me.

Also now have access to the freebies given I collected my 1000xp etc.

But still I hate them. I mean right now I have a like/hate relationship with them.

[Fiekie247]

I mean VS is the casino I wagered the most on a single casino. Since beginning 2017 I played with them, and up until now made $27 000 in deposits and withdrew over $33k in total, mind you during these  5 years a few months had 2 and half year break due to them closing my account re-opening about 2 years later.

So basically spend about $27k in deposits over 3 years at one casino is a record for me. But now my deposited range from $15 - $50, previously used to make $50 - $250 deposits at a time, given you hardly play with bonuses, because they do not have any!

[Fiekie247]

3 hours ago, Astaroth said:

This is just a typical example of the garbage I've had to put up with around when games win streak there's so many of them I could 

use as examples this is just one . 

 

As you can clearly see there is an internet connection functioning bottom right corner . 

Thats a standard TBH

However does not affect your game round, however sometimes I feel reloading the game, makes its cold afterwards

[Tane Marshall]

1 hour ago, Fiekie247 said:

Thats a standard TBH

However does not affect your game round, however sometimes I feel reloading the game, makes its cold afterwards

To cut a long story short a lot of it is over analysing the majority of errors occur during win streaks which makes the thing suspect 

having to reload the game because of becoming stuck resets the game and does make it go cold as the program has had a restart 

mid instruction set of procedures far as I'm concerned is a dirty tactic which stops win streaks and could be anyone software company , 

casino , and take your pick but I just know its not right after knowing inside people their playing dirty pure and simple . 

Also in that particular game the game did not reset as you suggested it continued the round and then performed with much lag 

another game hit a win streak gods of rock and then black screened after the encore hit I'm going to record the next session 

just so you all can see how ridiculous this truely is . 

[Jeanke08]

[cocopop3011]

On 2/18/2023 at 4:41 PM, jan duchau said:

Did you post this screenshot in the wrong topic dear?

[Blackjax]

On 2/18/2023 at 10:11 PM, jan duchau said:

This error happens on almost every PnG slot now. I dont know if casinos are responsible for this or the provider. Sometimes when you do more than 400 spins on PnG slots it shows this error and your balance turns to 0. Then you. Have to  go to home page of casino and reload. It really disrupts the flow of a session.

[Blackjax]

Previously there was the no network error.

https://www.askgamblers.com/forum/topic/12872-playngo-no-network-error/

 

[Jeanke08]

I posted it here as one of the elements I can prove showing that I agree with the OP,  we all experience these errors at moments our intuition tinkles a BIG WIN incoming...otherwise why bring this subject to light.

It's deception plain and clear but with an easy response for when players do complain about fairness and such, one we just have to assume is the truth and impossible to prove otherwise.

***One example I get frequently, it's my browser or the fact I'm a Linux user followed with clear cookies, clear cache, change browser, play from Windows and mainstream browser.***

Believe me, I did and do complain when my gut feeling tells me to but in the end I'm only more frustrated by those standard answers locked under the F keys.

If someone knows of a technical and/or other way usable to put a real sense of danger on the managements through live support or e-mail, PLEASE SHOOT.

[Tane Marshall]

8 hours ago, jan duchau said:

I posted it here as one of the Elements I can prove showing that I agree with the OP,  we all experience these errors at moments our intuition tinkles a BIG WIN incoming...otherwise why bring this subject to light.

It's deception plain and clear but with an easy response for when players do complain about fairness and such, one we just have to assume is the truth and impossible to prove otherwise.

***One example I get frequently, it's my browser or the fact I'm a Linux user followed with clear cookies, clear cache, change browser, play from Windows and mainstream browser.***

Believe me, I did and do complain when my gut feeling tells me to but in the end I'm only more frustrated by those standard answers locked under the F keys.

If someone knows of a technical and/or other way usable to put a real sense of danger on the managements through live support or e-mail, PLEASE Shoot.

When you reach a stage when you've done this so many times over its as common as grass it becomes monotonous to explain so here goes again : after a series of bets 

without seeing a sequence pattern of "hits" this is called a cold streak as apposed to when you see a pattern of hits this becomes a hot streak its when the hot streak occurs 

that the errors occur . Why this occurs ? simple deductive logic the Algorithm is programmed to recongise it and takes action accordingly . 

 

At this very moment in time there are a handful of game providers that I actually have any trust in whatsoever this is not intuition my fine friend this is hardcore 

numbers and calculation not speculative theory this is not the reason I bought this to light its being done so to highlight a growing trend in the industry which has 

to be stopped there's just too much mistrust now I don't know if it will ever be repaired . 

Explain to me how I suddenly magically convince a horde of signups that the reason their loosing their entire bankrolls and don't even get any bang for their buck 

this is just the way it is ....it is because of the events like the lowering of the RTP standards in Malta , Its because of questionable casinos / software providers , it is because 

of so many questionable things where is the trust anymore ???? why should we take the risk anymore I mean is anything trustable anymore ???  

 

Is it so much of a problem to ask for a fair game ?? I'm a straight shooter I don't use "tactics" I blind shot as do 100's of thousands of other players who are asking why do we continue spending money at your Casino's not Just VS buddy the whole lot ! I mean help me out here is there anyone with the regulatory authorities that can chime in here what is being done about the situation what confidence are you installing within us the players your managing your jurisdictions . 

As to Winz.io must have thought it was a joke at the time with the reroute and the muck around can you say the same thing now ???? when I've spoken about the thing across multiple platforms ?? tell the kid manager to hit the road and hire someone with experience .