Flatzem Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Since I play a lot of pragmatic play slots at Social Tournaments I have noticed something that happens far too often. During a feature you build up a nice multiplier and then out of nowhere the slot just decides to dish out dead spin after dead spins during the last 6 or 7 spins. It was far too obvious and can happen with those cluster type games especially but can apply to many other games too. Why make it so obvious tho, isn't it supposed to be random yet they just program this situation to happen. It really is annoying to have it happen and takes away from the enjoyment of the game. When you start to see the dead spin start at end of the feature what it the point of such games. Stop this nonsense. Enough is enough, make them random like they are supposed to be not this dead spin after dead spin b.o.l.l.o.c.k.s. There is nothing worse during a feature than to see dead spin after dead spin. And speaking of what is the point, seeing so many feature buys return less than 20% is another problem with these games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjax Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 This is common with every provider. Playngo, netent, elk, thunderkick, red tiger and many more can give multiple dead spins. Netentsare notorious with this feature. They can give you 40 dead spins in a row and its kind of them. I once had 65 dead spins on the trot on cashomatic. I just didnt know what was happening. I kept on playing that slot thinking I would now get bonus. Most importantly you should not compare real play with tournament/demo as RTP is way different on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi4 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 It is random spin to spin. However free spins are considered 1 spin, so when you start the game, free spin round needs to be seen as a total. This became very clear when Jammin Jars from Push Gaming came out. They had to put in a limited amount of freespin rounds otherwise they could not control the RTP of the game. So you had some streamers having exactly the same bonus round with all the symbols being the same on all 10 spins. So this is an industry standard and not PP specific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiekie247 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 On 9/11/2022 at 8:46 PM, Jedi4 said: It is random Spin to spin. However free spins are considered 1 spin, so when you start the game, free spin round needs to be seen as a total. This became very clear when Jammin Jars from Push Gaming came out. They had to put in a limited amount of Free Spin rounds otherwise they could not control the RTP of the game. So you had some streamers having exactly the same bonus round with all the symbols being the same on all 10 spins. So this is an industry standard and not PP specific Yeah Jammin Jars is like Bingo - When you click spin, its like drawing a ball with a losing / winning number and the game acts or display the winning combination to get to that winning number HammerFall is the easiest to see the same feature, round play all the time. Thus certain slots when the bonus round starts, a winning amount has already been displayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiekie247 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Elk Bonus round - Just need 1 spin to decide to win small or big - You will notice the first 7/8 spins are dead and spin 9 you hit 1000 - 5000x easily and then another dead spin on spin 10. especially on the GOLD series of slots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeanke08 Posted February 18, 2023 Share Posted February 18, 2023 I remember an even more frustrating Pragmatic Bonus round with € 0,0 earned, yet at the end it says congratulations, free spins win € 0,0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 5:41 PM, jan duchau said: I remember an even more frustrating Pragmatic Bonus round with € 0,0 earned, yet at the end it says congratulations, free spins win € 0,0. Haha, yes quite possibly the most annoying screens! I remember a casino congratulating me on a big win that was under £2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeanke08 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, cocopop3011 said: Haha, yes quite possibly the most annoying screens! I remember a casino congratulating me on a big win that was under £2 You would think providers will be more emphatic when it comes down to these situations. I can't suggest improvement for their sake of having "customers" coming back with your BIG WIN which I guess was at stake 0.1 and thus X20 bet win but for what concerns the 0.0 return after played a bonus or free spins round...damn, at least program another sort of notification like 'The Gods weren't in your favor, unfortunately no wins' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robjmiller Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 On 2/18/2023 at 7:41 PM, jan duchau said: I remember an even more frustrating Pragmatic Bonus round with € 0,0 earned, yet at the end it says congratulations, free spins win € 0,0. Maybe it was some kind of glitch? Or is this the norm for a pragmatic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, robjmiller said: Maybe it was some kind of glitch? Or is this the norm for a pragmatic? Obviously you haven't been playing much of slots @robjmiller, or if you've played any at all even. It is not a glitch, nor a norm for Pragmatic...it is the standard message anyone would get from any game whenever the bonus rounds/free spins ended with a zero win. 'CONGRATULATIONS! You've just won $0'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyRamirez Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 I remember the first times I only looked for free spins, because I was afraid to bet real money cocopop3011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatzem Posted April 19, 2023 Author Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, EmilyRamirez said: I remember the first times I only looked for free spins, because I was afraid to bet real money scared money is dead money, scared money don't make money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 2 hours ago, EmilyRamirez said: I remember the first times I only looked for free spins, because I was afraid to bet real money All newbies, myself included when I was still a freshie, always look for freebies to play and have fun with, like free spins and no deposit bonuses, so need to be ashamed of being such. Nonetheless, years later, I still look for freebies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 49 minutes ago, Afi4wins said: All newbies, myself included when I was still a freshie, always look for freebies to play and have fun with, like free spins and no deposit bonuses, so need to be ashamed of being such. Nonetheless, years later, I still look for freebies! It’s just a shame they’re not as forthcoming as they used to be years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 4 hours ago, cocopop3011 said: It’s just a shame they’re not as forthcoming as they used to be years ago! They're almost non-existent nowadays. cocopop3011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, Afi4wins said: They're almost non-existent nowadays. Yep! I've almost forgotten what a NDB is. I even doubt new players would even know what the phrase meant now! Sad times indeed. Remember how excited we used to get on our birthdays! Do they even exist these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted April 19, 2023 Share Posted April 19, 2023 1 hour ago, cocopop3011 said: Yep! I've almost forgotten what a NDB is. I even doubt new players would even know what the phrase meant now! Sad times indeed. Remember how excited we used to get on our birthdays! Do they even exist these days? Yes, they still do exist, at my Asian casinos anyway, but at a trickle of the past rewards. Free RM18 birthday bonus with 10x rollover wagering, no max cashout limit. At one other Asian casino, the more you have deposited in the previous month, the more birthday money you would get. The most I could get was only RM38. Still, better than nothing right? Hahaha. cocopop3011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Afi4wins said: Yes, they still do exist, at my Asian casinos anyway, but at a trickle of the past rewards. Free RM18 birthday bonus with 10x rollover wagering, no max cashout limit. At one other Asian casino, the more you have deposited in the previous month, the more birthday money you would get. The most I could get was only RM38. Still, better than nothing right? Hahaha. Definitely better than nothing Afi Afi4wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon80 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 On 8/15/2022 at 5:50 PM, Flatzem said: Since I play a lot of pragmatic play slots at Social Tournaments I have noticed something that happens far too often. During a feature you build up a nice Multiplier and then out of nowhere the slot just decides to dish out dead Spin after dead spins during the last 6 or 7 Spins. It was far too obvious and can happen with those cluster type games especially but can apply to many other games too. Why make it so obvious tho, isn't it supposed to be random yet they just program this situation to happen. It really is annoying to have it happen and takes away from the enjoyment of the game. When you start to see the dead spin start at end of the feature what it the point of such games. Stop this nonsense. Enough is enough, make them random like they are supposed to be not this dead spin after dead spin b.o.l.l.o.c.k.s. There is nothing worse during a feature than to see dead spin after dead spin. And speaking of what is the point, seeing so many feature buys return less than 20% is another problem with these games. I don't like pragmatic games. a lot of empty spins at bets up to $2. at higher stakes, it becomes more interesting to play, but the risk is greater. but the design of pragmatic slots is cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 @Maroon80 I think you need to set all your texting in document mode please...reading your posts in one long single line is a real nuisance, sorry to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/29/2023 at 6:01 PM, Maroon80 said: I don't like pragmatic games. a lot of empty spins at bets up to $2. at higher stakes, it becomes more interesting to play, but the risk is greater. but the design of pragmatic slots is cool Hi, I think you may be using Google Translate are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 We have a new rep for Pragmatic Play, so please feel free to ask our lovely Jelena any questions, I know she will be happy to assist! You'll find her here - Pragmatic Play Support Thread Afi4wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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