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[Afi4wins]

@Icy The most fair and justified rule would be for EVERYONE to play in EUR ONLY...then no conversions needed, no currency arguments, no hassles...but it would also mean much lesser contests for me to enter, because all my local casinos operate using MYR only.

[Fiekie247]

Euro is fine.. If playing in USD, then minimum bet will be the next bet which is 0.20usd.

Same with ZAR. Euro is strong against ZAR.

 Currently 0.10 euro is 2.10 zar which means next bet will be 3 or 4 zar. I am fine with this.

Honestly, everyone should just play in Euro period rather.

@cocopop3011I think we should keep the equivalent of 0.10 Euro as the standard and not put up USD next to Euro.

This way is easier to manage then having to convert in both Euro and USD.

[Afi4wins]

Yeah bro, but the BEST solution is still to allow players to play ONLY in their own currencies, OR in USD/EUR/GBP. So NZD, for example, can only be used by Loceff and CAD only by Icy...no one else.

[Fiekie247]

11 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

Yeah bro, but the BEST solution is still to allow players to play ONLY in their own currencies, OR in USD/EUR/GBP. So NZD, for example, can only be used by Loceff and CAD only by Icy...no one else.

Well you can use MYR, but that would mean your minimum bet would be 0.75 MYR right?

I have the same, my minimum bet would have to be 4 ZAR for 0.10 euro minimim. Even though 4 zar equals around 0.18 euro. 

It is what it is I guess!

And I think its i

Simpler with only Euro conversion.

I will be playing in Euro rather

[cocopop3011]

1 hour ago, Afi4wins said:

As a matter of fact @cocopop3011, ALL CASINOS consider USD as equal to EUR, ie. a minimum bet of 0.10 USD or 0.10 EUR.

You have raided a valid point here.  However: 

You see if I start saying, like casinos do, 0.10 EUR, 0.10 USD and so on it then becomes INCREDIBLY difficult to monitor from an admin point of view! Casinos have technology to do this, we don’t it all had to be done manually. 
 

And you see Afi, all these concerns raised is why I got rid of the minimum bet rule in the first place but people still argued about currency conversion which is why this has had to happen. 

[cocopop3011]

50 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

@Icy The most fair and justified rule would be for EVERYONE to play in EUR ONLY...then no conversions needed, no currency arguments, no hassles...but it would also mean much lesser contests for me to enter, because all my local casinos operate using MYR only.

Yep I agree it would the the easiest option but I understand enforcing this rule means some people can’t play, which is why I’ve not done it. 

[cocopop3011]

1 hour ago, Afi4wins said:

If the 'all paylines must be active' rule remains, then I may skip several contests, but that shouldn't do any harm to the contests.

This rule will NO LONGER be active!! This rule was added when I removed the minimum bet rule. As long as you are playing with a new minimum bet rule it doesn’t matter how many lines you have to me. 

[Icy]

So what your saying is we will have a harder time screenshotting ZvH. It's no longer the minimum $0.10 but the next bet up?

Well now I just don't care about how many lives will be lost in this blaze, imaginary blaze 

[Afi4wins]

@Icy No need to get all blazed and fired up about ZeusvsHades....just play the game in EUR!!! 

[Fiekie247]

So the verdict

Minimum bet 0.10 euro or equivalent?

Any amount of paylines can be played?

 

[Icy]

Just now, Afi4wins said:

@Icy No need to get all blazed and fired up about ZeusvsHades....just play the game in EUR!!! 

@Afi4wins It's no longer balance effective with this rule since my casino accounts are in CAD so the next step up would be $0.20 CAD to meet that $0.10 EUR minimum. The balance is gonna go quick, 5 spins per dollar not to mention the fast turbo! 

But if @cocopop3011 somehow agreed that USD, EUR and CAD are within the same minimums since USD and CAD are tilting there scales for power based on their values (leans head forward, eyebrows up and knodding for an expectation) then this northern explorer might have something.

[Afi4wins]

16 minutes ago, Icy said:

@Afi4wins It's no longer balance effective with this rule since my casino accounts are in CAD so the next step up would be $0.20 CAD to meet that $0.10 EUR minimum. The balance is gonna go quick, 5 spins per dollar not to mention the fast turbo! 

But if @cocopop3011 somehow agreed that USD, EUR and CAD are within the same minimums since USD and CAD are tilting there scales for power based on their values (leans head forward, eyebrows up and knodding for an expectation) then this northern explorer might have something.

@Icy No, EUR and CAD are not that close. 0.10 EUR = 0.15 CAD or 0.11 USD. (it's 0.50 MYR for me! )

[cocopop3011]

18 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said:

So the verdict

Minimum bet 0.10 euro or equivalent?

Any amount of paylines can be played?

 

All bets must equal to 0.10 EUR when converted but the all paylines active has been removed now. This was only in place as there was no minimum bet.

[Afi4wins]

1 minute ago, cocopop3011 said:

All bets must equal to 0.10 EUR when converted but the all paylines active has been removed now. This was only in place as there was no minimum bet.

@cocopop3011 @Fiekie247 The thing is...NOT MANY GAMES have selective number of playlines...most are FIXED. 

[cocopop3011]

3 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

@cocopop3011 @Fiekie247 The thing is...NOT MANY GAMES have selective number of playlines...most are FIXED. 

Haha that is the issue now!! Not like years ago when fixed paylines was hardly ever a thing

[Fiekie247]

6 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

@cocopop3011 @Fiekie247 The thing is...NOT MANY GAMES have selective number of playlines...most are FIXED. 

I know... Only Play n Go allow bet lines to be modified on some games and some playtech slots if I am not mistaken.

[loceff13]

I'm ok with such a minbet size, my only concern is with current market volatility the likes of the NZD shifted 5% over just a few days this week and 0.1EUR suddenly was 0.199775NZD, very close to requiring me paying a ~50% premium  at 0.30NZD to meet the over the 0.1EUR rule. Right now it's 0.1938NZD.

 

What date does the conversion rate matter, on the date of the win or the end of the comp. Seems like alot of work for admin to confirm date of win and currency rate on that day etc but thats the most fair way because a qualifying xwin on day 1 not being valid on day 14 is crazy. 

 

While people are free to feel I was getting a good deal playing 0.10 NZD they also fail to mention on other providers with weighted minbets(ie 10c EUR/USD, 20c NZD/AUD/CAD) I was paying a 10-15% premium over EUR players without complaint when my currency was stronger and they had an edge. 

 

It's easier to just say something like:

10c USD/EUR/GBP

20c NZD/AUD/CAD

etc 

 

Figure out the euro minbet for future slot titles in question and double it for NZD/AUD/CAD

[Afi4wins]

@loceff13 The listed currency exchange rates shall be valid for the entire contest period. It may, or may not, be updated in time to come...only @cocopop3011 can decide on what to do then.

[Fiekie247]

2 minutes ago, loceff13 said:

I'm ok with such a minbet size, my only concern is with current market volatility the likes of the NZD shifted 5% over just a few days this week and 0.1EUR = 0.199775NZD, very close to requiring me paying a ~50% premium to meet the over the .1EUR rule. 

 

What date does the conversion rate matter, on the date of the win or the end of the comp. Seems like alot of work for admin to confirm date of win and currency rate on that day etc but thats the most fair way because a qualifying xwin on day 1 not being valid on day 14 is crazy. 

 

While people are free to feel I was getting a good deal playing 0.10 NZD they also fail to mention on other providers with weighted minbets(ie 10c EUR/USD, 20c NZD/AUD/CAD) I was paying a 10-15% premium over EUR players without complaint when my currency was stronger and they had an edge. 

 

It's easier to just say something like:

10c USD/EUR/GBP

20c NZD/AUD/CAD

etc 

 

Figure out the euro minbet for future slot titles in question and double it for NZD/AUD/CAD

I feel you totally

The ZAR currency has gotten so weak over the last 2 weeks, that the euro also went from 17 ZAR to 22 ZAR, which was also a decent increase. I mean, I do have to find a casino that offer those in-between bets of 2 and 4 ZAR.

It is affecting all of us, but hopefully now less fighting about currencies and conversions at the same time.

I am sure you can play in Euro at some casinos, right? I guess it depends on your deposit methods.

[cocopop3011]

6 minutes ago, loceff13 said:

I'm ok with such a minbet size, my only concern is with current market volatility the likes of the NZD shifted 5% over just a few days this week and 0.1EUR suddenly was 0.199775NZD, very close to requiring me paying a ~50% premium  at 0.30NZD to meet the over the 0.1EUR rule. Right now it's 0.1938NZD.

 

What date does the conversion rate matter, on the date of the win or the end of the comp. Seems like alot of work for admin to confirm date of win and currency rate on that day etc but thats the most fair way because a qualifying xwin on day 1 not being valid on day 14 is crazy. 

 

While people are free to feel I was getting a good deal playing 0.10 NZD they also fail to mention on other providers with weighted minbets(ie 10c EUR/USD, 20c NZD/AUD/CAD) I was paying a 10-15% premium over EUR players without complaint when my currency was stronger and they had an edge. 

 

It's easier to just say something like:

10c USD/EUR/GBP

20c NZD/AUD/CAD

etc 

 

Figure out the euro minbet for future slot titles in question and double it for NZD/AUD/CAD

 

2 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

@loceff13 The listed currency exchange rates shall be valid for the entire contest period. It may, or may not, be updated in time to come...only @cocopop3011 can decide on what to do then.

And you see this is why the minimum bet was removed in the first place, it too brings all kinds of complications  

I’ll be using xe.com to make the conversions, I advise everyone to do the same. 

[Blackjax]

@cocopop3011 the exchange rate is fluctuating in my case too. We are only one announcement away from Grandpa Trump and I can see Inr going to 100. So please clarify if currency conversion rate at the beginning of the contest will be used for the reference or the one at the end. 

[Blackjax]

2 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said:

 

And you see this is why the minimum bet was removed in the first place, it too brings all kinds of complications  

 

No problem @cocopop3011 if you want we can state the exchange rate for every currency being used at the forum during the beginning of the contest. So less hassle for you. 

[Blackjax]

@loceff13 and @Fiekie247 look at the brighter side of nzd, zar and inr getting weak. We all are getting more money from AG when we receive our prizes. Dont tell me you guys aren't happy about that because I am. 

[cocopop3011]

1 hour ago, Blackjax said:

No problem @cocopop3011 if you want we can state the exchange rate for every currency being used at the forum during the beginning of the contest. So less hassle for you. 

Not sure this is feesable to cover every currency that’s the issue? 

[Blackjax]

4 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said:

Not sure this is feesable to cover every currency that’s the issue? 

By every I meant the ones being used  at the forum currently apart from Euro. Which I believe are zar, inr, myr, nzd, cad and nok.