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[Afi4wins]

I guess online gambling in the UK would soon end up much like in the US and Australia...dreadful and choiceless! 

[Blackjax]

UK is way bigger market in terms of online gambling experience. I am going ti repeat myself that we are now going to have bigger casinos allowing VPN for UK customers and mga licensed casinos taking over UK market

[Afi4wins]

1 hour ago, Blackjax said:

UK is way bigger market in terms of online gambling experience. I am going ti repeat myself that we are now going to have bigger casinos allowing VPN for UK customers and mga licensed casinos taking over UK market

Honestly mate, I really doubt even MGA licensed casinos would allow the use of VPN just to accept UK players...without UKGC license!

[pinnit2015]

Afi's right - it would cause fisticuffs at dawn if there was an unwritten policy to allow MGA casino's to accept UK players: the two of them collaborate quite a bit I believe and that would just undermine the whole regime. Bit hard for MGA, who have improved massively over the years, to rap a casino on the knuckles when the casino could quite rightly point to the aforementioned. 

Strangely enough it would be more desirable than sending them to Curacao though. Or Costa Rica. 

Still a lot of choice in the UK tbh ATM, compared to some places: still running with the 6 major bookies, Mr Green Group, Nektan (even tho rubbish), Aspire Global Group (even though rubbish), Progress Play (even tho...get the point), the underrated Dazzletag casinos, Casumo, Novi, Videoslots, Grosvenor Group etcetc  and personally, I only play at 3 usually now, compared to 30 7 years ago. L and L set up a new casino only last week - Race as well so there will be some, depending on their market share, will still stay on.

Not going to happen but a loosening of the tax regime would help - in the UK a casino, depending on their yield, can pay anything up to 50% tax - that's massive when you compare to somewhere like Sweden where it's only 18%, regardless of your revenue. 

The next few months will give a clearer picture - coming to the start of a new financial year for many and many will want to enter in with a clear portfolio. A lot will depend on if the 2 quid max stake is introduced; if so, more will follow. 

[ValDes]

Totally agree with Afi and MrP here - almost 99.99% sure that using VPN to register, deposit and play with a MGA licensed casino will surely be classified as fraud attempt and will lead to immediate ban + confiscation of funds/winnings. 

IMHO, the most 'natural & logical' choice for any player who lost their casino provider due to UK market exit is Curacao licensed operators who proved themselves as perfectly fit and capable to 'maneuver' exceptionally well in the ''legal sea'' of countless regulatory regimes, legal frameworks, requirements, AML directives, etc etc.. What bothers me thou is that I have zero doubts the UKGC will use every possible grain of influence and 'political power' they have to somehow tie the hands of Curacao Master License holders and force them to add UK  as a restricted country in their licensees' terms & conditions. Lots of Curacao licensed operators have done that ages ago but still plenty of casinos without that clause... 

[Blackjax]

Btw are we seeing any changes in Bonus terms and conditions of these casinos who are leaving the UK Market. Rizk, casino euro, betsson all these casinos do not allow bonus with skrill or neteller deposits. Can we see things change in future

[pinnit2015]

3 hours ago, Blackjax said:

Btw are we seeing any changes in Bonus terms and conditions of these casinos who are leaving the UK Market. Rizk, Casino Euro, Betsson all these casinos do not allow bonus with Skrill or neteller deposits. Can we see things change in future

No, probably not, unless the bonus abuse primarily came from the UK which i doubt (otherwise it would just have been UK players) - i was speaking to someone from a casino and they said it was done primarily cos that's were the bulk of the bonus abuse/fraud was coming from: hence why it's excluded (well, for that particular casino group)

There was a report by a group who looked into this and it's quite enlightening - shows you how much of an uphill battle casino's have in trying to stop this and how sophisticated the fraudsters are (sometimes the players are the bad ones, not the casino's)

[Blackjax]

1 hour ago, pinnit2015 said:

No, probably not, unless the bonus abuse primarily came from the UK which i doubt (otherwise it would just have been UK players) - i was speaking to someone from a casino and they said it was done primarily cos that's were the bulk of the bonus abuse/fraud was coming from: hence why it's excluded (well, for that particular casino group)

There was a report by a group who looked into this and it's quite enlightening - shows you how much of an uphill battle casino's have in trying to stop this and how sophisticated the fraudsters are (sometimes the players are the bad ones, not the casino's)

I am aware of this. But i believe a lot of abuse was coming from uk players. That is why a lot of casinos stopped giving match deposit bonuses and only gave free spins for welcome offer to UK players.

[pinnit2015]

Self Exclusion 'fraud' is a predominantly a UK thing but then again, which such rules on it here, to be expected.

Bonus abuse/criminal syndicates targeting casino's isn't though AFAIK - can't find it now but a casino shared where the bulk of these were coming from and there was a lot from Eastern Europe/Russia/Balkan states i believe (just for them). But other places as well. 

If it was the UK, then non UK facing casinos, would still offer them but AFAIK, they don't (even for ones never having accepting UK)

Criminals know no international boundaries 

I don't think casinos were happy with Skrill etc on their end - they felt they could have been doing more.