Grosevnor Experiences? Also, any recommendations?

[Proxy]

I haven't seen Grosevnor mentioned here. So, I'll start with saying that I joined their site a little over a week ago and regularly played their various Blackjack games. I tried the slots and roulette games in the demo option. The slots were fine. Of course, I lost more in points than I put in, but that's expected, which is why I'd never put real money in them. The roulette games were mostly nothing out of the ordinary, but a couple had an odd tendency to consistently hit streaks of the opposite colour I bet on. Then, when I decided to change colour from red to black, FINALLY, it hit on red. I suppose losing streaks aren't unusual, but that struck me as suspicious.

As for Blackjack, I found that mostly, during the demo plays, I'd experience more variance in losses and wins, but even in the demo version, one Blackjack game in particular had the concerning tendency to give me a face value card whenever I ended up with a  hand totalling 12 or 13. This didn't always happen of course, but it happened so often, I'd say it was 90% of my experience with it that it occurred. With real money, even on low stakes Blackjack, I found that I would more often be dealt "hard hands" than during a demo play. Making my chances of losing higher.

I decided that it wasn't for me. Maybe I'm just really unlucky, but it raised too many red flags.  While I try and brush up on my strategy, can you help recommend another site for me to try?

 

[pinnit2015]

Grosvenor are a pretty solid outfit - can't say I play Live Casino much as i do that in Land Based, though. if i did play Live, I'd probably go Novibet or Unibet

[Proxy]

3 hours ago, pinnit2015 said:

Grosvenor are a pretty solid outfit - can't say I play Live Casino much as i do that in Land Based, though. if i did play Live, I'd probably go Novibet or Unibet

I guess it might just be bad luck then. I tend to just play with £10 in the deposit, so maybe that's the reason. I don't give myself enough breathing room.  I thought of checking out Arcane Bet if anyone has any advice about that?

And it wasn't Live Casino. It was all compute generated, software controlled games.

[pinnit2015]

Evolution?

I've no evidence but there are too many stories regarding some weird play for there not to have an element of something amiss there - why i don't play online on Live Casino really: dealers lifting the second card on the deck, numbers called out and changed. I dunno. There's just summat. 

Even so, it's the software provider anyway so regardless of what casino you're playing it they'll still, unless pirated, lifting it from the same place. 

Just read - not live then, scrap that

I'm even less a fan of the computer card games - at least slots give the impression of randomness

Yeah, 10 quid isn't a massive buffer - less chances to go on a run etc - same for slots, I hit ok on small deposits here and there but generally i prefer to give them a good run on a 100-200. 

 

[Fiekie247]

5 hours ago, Proxy said:

I guess it might just be bad luck then. I tend to just play with £10 in the deposit, so maybe that's the reason. I don't give myself enough breathing room.  I thought of checking out Arcane Bet if anyone has any advice about that?

And it wasn't Live Casino. It was all compute generated, software controlled games.

Arcanebet great, x17 wager on bonus + deposit,
They have all the games you can imagine from all providers
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They are a good joint - Can vouch for them.

[Proxy]

1 hour ago, pinnit2015 said:

Evolution?

I've no evidence but there are too many stories regarding some weird play for there not to have an element of something amiss there - why i don't play online on Live Casino really: dealers lifting the second card on the deck, numbers called out and changed. I dunno. There's just summat. 

Even so, it's the software provider anyway so regardless of what casino you're playing it they'll still, unless pirated, lifting it from the same place. 

Just read - not live then, scrap that

I'm even less a fan of the computer card games - at least slots give the impression of randomness

Yeah, 10 quid isn't a massive buffer - less chances to go on a run etc - same for slots, I hit ok on small deposits here and there but generally i prefer to give them a good run on a 100-200. 

 

Evolution are affiliated with them according to Wikipedia and this article.

"During November 2013, Evolution Gaming joined Grosvenor Casinos to create a ‘Live Casino’ targeting players on their online casino. The games include blackjack, roulette and baccarat and are available 24hrs a day, 7 days a week. The live game system is designed to produce an environment more closely matching a real casino experience."

 

https://news.cision.com/evolution-gaming/r/evolution-dual-play-roulette-will-be-live-from-grosvenor-casinos,c2359561

 

Though, according to their site, their software providers are pretty diverse.

 

"With access to over 15 software providers, our variety of games is unrivalled. Whether you find yourself in our land-based or online casinos, you will see a lot of crossover content powered by companies like IGT and Novomatic as well as one of the best software companies in online gambling – Playtech. And our live dealer games have been brought to life, and made better than ever, with Evolution Gaming."

 

[Proxy]

1 hour ago, Fiekie247 said:

Arcanebet Casino great, x17 wager on bonus + deposit,
They have all the games you can imagine from all providers
Pays within 24 hours

They are a good joint - Can vouch for them.

Thanks for the advice.

[pinnit2015]

32 minutes ago, Proxy said:

Evolution are affiliated with them according to Wikipedia and this article.

"During November 2013, Evolution Gaming joined Grosvenor Casinos to create a ‘Live Casino’ targeting players on their online casino. The games include Blackjack, Roulette and baccarat and are available 24hrs a day, 7 days a week. The live game system is designed to produce an environment more closely matching a real casino experience."

 

https://news.cision.com/evolution-gaming/r/evolution-dual-play-roulette-will-be-live-from-grosvenor-casinos,c2359561

 

Though, according to their site, their software providers are pretty diverse.

 

"With access to over 15 software providers, our variety of games is unrivalled. Whether you find yourself in our land-based or online casinos, you will see a lot of crossover content powered by companies like IGT and Novomatic as well as one of the best software companies in online gambling – Playtech. And our live dealer games have been brought to life, and made better than ever, with Evolution Gaming."

 

Well it's more a business 2 business relationship - same as Casumo having BTG as a provider and even evolution themselves.

As far as i know there are very few casinos who also own the software providers - off the top of my head 3 Dice; they're a casino who make their own games etc. 

Topic for another day i suppose but from a fraud/bad practice point of view there is the argument that why would a company, so massive, risk it all to influence games that are in the favour anyway. Greed? (Volkswagen/Tesco, all massive, all shown to have committed various 'erroneous' activities). We'll probably never know