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I would like to ask for your opinion on whether I should receive all the money I won.The casino in question is: Justpin I deposited €50 and got €50 in bonus money. The bonus money has a€4000 winning cap. While playing and wagering the money, my balance reached a maximum of around €1220. I finally completed the wagering and my balance was around €932, which turned into real money and would have been available for withdrawal. So no bonus terms were broken during the wagering and the winning limit was not exceeded. I then continued playing with real money and won €9025 on the game Tropicool 4. The casino now claims that the money was part of the winnings made with bonus money and confiscated a total of €5880, even though the bonus money rules should no longer have applied to my winnings. What do you think about this? Casino bonus rules:"General wagering requirements, bonus and real money prioritizationA wagering requirement means the number of times you must wager the total value of your deposit + bonus balance before it becomes part of your cash balance.General wagering amount for deposit bonuses are forty (40) times of the deposit + bonus balance. Example: all our deposit bonuses are so-called Sticky Bonuses. This means the bonus money is tied to your deposit. If you deposit €100 and receive a 100% matching bonus you have a balance of €200. This amount needs to be wagered 40 x times and you will start the wagering with the real money balance first.The general wagering amount for login Free spins/Bonus money that does not require any deposit is (50x) fifty times the bonus winnings.The wagering requirement for deposit free spin offers is forty (40) times of the bonus amount won from free spins. An initial deposit, which is used to claim the free spin offer, must be wagered 1 time.The wagering requirement on free spins winnings begins when you start playing with your bonus money.All winnings from bets placed while having an active bonus are considered to be bonus money and will be converted to real money only after bonus wagering requirements are met.Real money will always be used first when you have both real money and bonus money in your account.The wagering requirement must be completed within:3 days for deposit bonuses24 hours for free spins and free bonusesThe maximum winnings with a deposit bonus are EUR/USD 4,000 or NOK40,000 or NZD/CAD $7,500.The maximum winnings from a login free bonus that does not require any deposit (Example: login Free Spins/ login bonus money) is €100 (or the equivalent in any other currency).Bonus money and promotional restrictionsThe maximum stake per slot spin / table game, hand / video poker deal when playing with Bonus funds or active bonus is EUR/USD/CAD/NZD 5 or NOK 50. If a player bets with higher bets, the player agrees that the bonus and any associated winnings may be removed."Bonus buy", i.e. as a feature in a game when a bonus round of free spins or any similar advance in game can be bought, is not allowed when using bonus money and justspin.com reserves the right to forfeit the whole bonus.We reserve the right to manage how bonuses are used before you may cash them in, therefore not all bets will count towards the wagering requirements for your bonus. Bear in mind, most games contribute towards the wagering requirements, but not all."General Bonus RulesThe Casino bonuses can only be claimed once per person, household, shared IP address or computer, unless otherwise stated for the particular promotion.Bonuses and Free Spins are personal and can only be used by the person who received the specific offer.If a deposit code is specified, it has to be used when making the deposit in order to receive the Bonus / Free Spins.No promotional or other type of bonus will be issued or allowed once a withdrawal is in a pending status. This will remain until that withdrawal has been either approved or cancelled. Once the withdrawal has been approved or cancelled, players will be able to continue benefiting from the daily bonus send outs.If a casino bonus is forfeited, the full bonus amount will be removed from the account. Note: The account balance would be reduced to zero in case there is no funds remaining from any potential deposit justspin.com reserves the right to cancel or withdraw a promotional offer as well as changing the criteria for using the offer at any time, regardless of any information given in conjunction with any Bonus offer.justspin.com reserves the right to enforce a maximum withdrawal amount from winnings of Deposit Bonuses of €4,000. The funds exceeding this amount will be removed from the account upon completing the wagering requirements or upon withdrawal.justspin.com reserves the right to enforce a maximum withdrawal amount from winnings of No Deposit Bonuses (Bonus Money and Free Spins) of €100. The funds exceeding this amount will be removed from the account upon completing the wagering requirements or upon withdrawal.Deposit Bonuses can be accumulated, but that means wagering amounts (i.e. the amounts You are required to wager) also accumulate and follow the conditions set by the newest consumed bonus. For example, if any casino (or sports) deposit bonus is being consumed and the Player decides to use a new deposit bonus, wagering requirements of the new deposit bonus would prevail. Also, the wagering amounts of the bonus that were already being consumed will accumulate with the amounts of the new bonus.In the Casino, the minimum wagering of a Bonus is forty (40) times the Bonus amount and any connected deposit, unless otherwise stated in the Special Bonus terms and conditions.We reserve the right to manage how bonuses are used before you may cash them in, therefore not all bets will count towards the wagering requirements for your bonus. Bear in mind, most games contribute towards the wagering requirements, but not all.The above requirements are general; however, there might be additional conditions for specific bonuses."Chatgpt interpretation:" Why I Have a Right to the Full Amount I completed the wagering requirements before the larger winnings occurred. According to the bonus terms: "All winnings from bets placed while having an active bonus are considered to be bonus money and will be converted to real money only after bonus wagering requirements are met." I fully met these wagering requirements. The funds remaining in my balance at that point had become real money, not bonus money. The maximum win limit stated in the bonus terms only applies to winnings from bonus funds. The bonus terms state: "The maximum winnings with a deposit bonus are EUR 4,000… upon completing the wagering requirements or upon withdrawal." At no point during the wagering process did my winnings exceed this limit. The larger winnings occurred after the bonus was cleared. Therefore, the winnings were no longer subject to the bonus cap. Sticky bonus structure means I never received the bonus amount as withdrawable cash, only the winnings. Once the wagering was completed, I had a real money balance that I could have chosen to withdraw. Instead, I decided to continue playing, fully aware that I was now using real money — not bonus funds. The additional winnings I earned came entirely after the bonus had expired, meaning they should not be retroactively tied to bonus terms. ________________________________ Why the Casino’s Reasoning Is Problematic The casino appears to retroactively apply the bonus maximum win limit to funds that were already converted into real money. This is inconsistent with the wording of the bonus terms and standard industry practices. If the wagering was completed and the funds had turned into real money (as per the bonus terms), then further gameplay should no longer be governed by bonus restrictions. Applying a bonus-related win limit to real money gameplay after the bonus is no longer active is misleading, unfair, and potentially non-compliant with MGA regulations. ________________________________ Conclusion Based on the facts and the terms provided by the casino: I did not exceed the maximum win limit while the bonus was active. All large winnings were generated after the wagering was completed and my balance had become real money. I could have withdrawn that money at that point, which proves the bonus had been cleared. Therefore, those winnings should not have been restricted or confiscated.

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it seems some sites have ruined the way bonuses should be, there is a site that if you claim a bonus , you first have to stake 30xBonus before you can start to use a bonus and then before you can withdraw the bonus you have to stake a further settled stakes of 30xBonus. what is this crazyness ?????????? what happened to the days of making a deposit and getting a 100% bonus or more and then you would have a cash balance and bonus balance ready to use.... usually you would first be using your cash balance before it dipped into the bonus balance, sometimes sites will stake 50% of cash and 50% bonus......... but this is crazy.... making a deposit and then they want a 30xBonus wagering BEFORE you get any bonus to use...... BRING back the way bonuses used to be.... give us the bonus straight away. e.g if you deposit 100e you should have 200e to work with ! and then stake 30xBonus , while using the 200e.........

So has anyone else seen a casino raise the wagering requirements on all bonuses offered to you after a somewhat large withdrawal being made? Ive been a player at this online casino for over a year now and up until now I have had no issues with making withdrawals or with wagering requirements being raised after. The casino offered awesome bonuses ex: 250%-350% of deposit with 30X playthrough, perk points, fast bitcoin withdrawals, great game selection, etc. Which is why I stopped playing at other sites and became a regular player at this casino only. I honestly feel like I am being scammed, after making my last recent withdrawal my wagering requirements went from 30X to 60X?!!!???? Thats ridiculous, like Im a player who makes several deposits on daily basis so besides the fact that I made a large withdrawal, and the amount of money I deposit in a 30 day period every month compared to my entire withdrawal history on the site. I just feel very misled and scammed since they are known for prioritizing their "Fair Play" and being one of the most highly recommended online casinos.. I even tried contacting live chat about it but they were ZERO help, and couldn't even explain why it happened. So then after this i start looking into there T&C policy and the only thing I could find that could be a possible reason as to why it would have been raised is if: I dont understand how I would be viewed as abusing the bonus system, if I make several deposits daily and have only made 4 withdrawals in the past year that I have been playing at this site??? Would it be a good idea to file a complaint for this? I just feel like with the amount of money i deposit, they would care about losing a player due to raising wager req, and making it almost inevitably impossible in having any fair chance of winning?

Hi guys I'm doing some research and for this one I need your expertise please! I'm looking for casinos that have a high max bet? Anything over let's say £5. Any one know of any? Also guys I know we have a thread of casinos that have max bet protection but it's a little out of date so if you could add more up to date casinos that have some kind of protection please can you also add them here. Looking for some quick replies please guys. Cocopop.

I would like to know what you think about online casino bonuses. Do you prefer to play with bonuses or not ? And why ? Do you have mathematically explanation behind your choice ? Do you have a strategy to complete your wagering requirements ? Personnally, I think 100% bonus with 25X to 30X the wagering requirement is fair enough and should be taken. I avoid bonuses under 100% and/or bonuses with high wagering requirements like 40X deposit + bonus. GOOD LUCK GAMBLERS !!!

Hi everyone, I just wondered what rules you have in place for wagering requirements. What I mean by this is what's the maximum wagering requirement you're prepared to accept when taking a bonus? Back in my early days of gambling I never used to care what the amount was I'd take anything, now I'm far more fussy. Being offered a bonus with a 60x wagering requirement for example is a no-no for me now, I just don't have the time any more to sit and try and meet these kind of requirements. I'm also VERY reluctant these days to accept wagers that require both bonus + deposit to be wagered. Out of interest do any of you have any limits like this or do you just take anything?

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Took advantage of the 200% deposit bonus and 100 wager free spins! Got lucky cleared the wagering requirements, cashed out 1500 euro. Wasnt confident it was going to be an easy ride where I could receive my winnings and run. And my feelings were correct. I woke up to an email stating I had breached their bonus terms and conditties by placing bonus bets over 7.50 usd ( or euro equivelent) and they have voided my winnings and put my original deposit back into my casino account! They always find a way not to pay! My bad for not reading the terms and Conditions! just a learning curve for someone new to the gambling world have deleted account.will stick to sites I know and trust in future

Okay so ..., I had 25 free spins at BGO Casino on Secrets of Atlantis. Won £4.20. Changed to Jack and the Beanstalk and got up to £25, changed to Starburst to smash the wagering (only £142). Played @ 40p a spin and Starburst did not let me down! I very quickly raised my balance to almost £90 - it was a very good day on Starburst. Finished wagering now at just under £80. But here is my dilemma. Do I withdraw or keep trying for more? Usually I would play some more and see how it goes but I have a rather sizeable withdrawal waiting at another casino which I also got from some free spins, I can't give details yet until the money is in my bank, I don't like to jinx it. But this £80 will bring my winnings to over £700 so.....do I take the gamble and try for me or withdraw? What would you do guys? I don't like taking risks

Hi I have 24 hours to meet these wagering requirements. Any advice/suggestions to come out with a profit? thanks

I'm not too bothered about the max bet rule myself since I'm a low roller, my bets never exceed the max bet. However this I know is something that effects quite a few of you here. I came across something today at Expekt Casino which I haven't seen before. You'll have to excuse me because this may be normal I've just never needed to take any notice of it - but it seems like an alternative to the max bet rule. Here it is: Quite harsh I think considering the amount of wagering you'll be adding on, and this will be for every win where the bet is over £10. Surely it would just be easier to stick to the £10 rule?

Afternoon all So my question for today is, (and the answer may be obvious but hear me out first) Which bonuses do you do better on Wager or Wager Free? You'd automatically think that a bonus, for example winnings from free spins, that are wager free is much easier to withdraw from. And in principle it is of course. But whenever I have a wager free free spins I always seem to lose in the end and hardly ever make a withdrawal despite the fact that I had no wagering. Whereas I could have a £20 bonus, have to go through at least £1000 in wagering and manage to make a withdrawal. Which begs the question which of these two scenarios do you do best out of? Do you always manage to withdraw from wager free free spins or do you do better when there's a wager attached?

Evening everyone! I have a question. When you receive free spins, whether its after just a deposit or if you get a bonus as well as free spins when do you play them? I always do my free spins after I have played through my bonus or once my balance is at zero. The only downfall with this is if the free spins have already be credited it means I can't use the game in question until i'm ready to use my free spins! When do you play yours?

Okay so here is my dilemma. Whilst playing @ Casino Saga I won €500 on one of the boss levels. Whilst this should be a reason for celebration it most definitely is not. These winnings came with a hefty wagering of €21,000. I was so thrilled when I won it and it was the complete opposite feeling when I realised the wagering. I wish I hadn't won it to be honest. But I have so I am now asking for your help!! Does anyone have any suggestions how I can meet this wagering and most importantly how I can meet it fast! In case you haven't seen my screenshots in another thread I will post again to get you all in the loop. All comments welcome .... P.s my wagering is a little under €21,000 now from gameplay since screenshot

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Helloooooo I have a question for you! Hope you won't find it too funny So, while I was playing a bonus, hopelessly trying to complete wagering, I wondered if it's allowed to add more money as your deposit, so you raise up your current balance with that addition and then also use it, together with previous balance, to complete your wagering? Or you're allowed to chase the wagering requirements only with your deposit which triggered the bonus you're trying to complete the wagering for? Hope you understand what I'm talking about and asking about?

For those of you who don't know I recently registered and deposited at Slotobank Casino, I was also successful in making a small withdrawal Before I share my story and my opinions of the casino - I was wondering if anyone else here had any player experience with this casino?

We all have propably sometimes wagered money in casino before withdrawing it and often it is not so easy and you loose all during wagering. Money comes from bonuscodes, registeration offers, deposit-offers and freespins... So, we all know that process and wagering is mostly 30-40x that money what you have won. Sometimes just 10x, but sometimes even 50x or much much more... Depending on casino. So, what are Your favourite games for wager-process? For me those are: NetEnt: Starburst, Dead or Alive and Kings of Chicago and if I have lot of money, then many other slots... Microgaming: Break da Bank Again Well, sometimes I try those jackpot-slots like Mega Moolah, Mega Fortune and Hall of Gods.