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I think I know this one too...but somebody else please give it a go...

Hmm...the magic is silent? Well, at least our friend Fiekie isn't...he should be saying something soon enough...hehehe.

Well, I hope Sharon doesn't mind you jumping her gun...hehehe. Voodoo? What happen to the Magic?

Aaaah...thank you darling! That's what I know how it is too.

Heeeey...wait a minute...Skrill bought Neteller? I thought it was the other way round? I may be wrong though.

Good God!!! Just look at that paytable... The Wilds don't pay...the Scatters don't pay...and the highest paying symbol pays only 200x the line bet for 5 of them??? 200x line bet = 8x the total bet ...extremely low paytable!!! And going by Pragmatic standards, those Free Spins games should be blardy hard to get too.

Hehehehe...I thought you already knew that Neteller and Skrill are under Paysafe, mate...

Immo, item (3)...if you can ever find a casino that doesn't impose a time limit to their bonuses...then let us know... because I have never ever come across any casino that doesn't impose a time limit on their bonuses!

Yes, I may be wrong there mate...I am not perfect in any way... but can you show me the proof that free chip or free bonus doesn't have the 7 day period limitation?

I must admit that the casino staff had been very 'tricky' on you...who knows, that 1x wagering may have been stated like that on purpose...just to attract you to take it up. Hmmm...still...that doesn't do any good to the casino either, does it? Because you've already got your 500 EUR back.

Hahahaha...better than nothing!

Okay, the fact is, you have already accepted and played that 250 EUR bonus...too late now...you should have rejected it or asked the casino to remove it if you didn't want it....but that 1x wagering (an error) caught you by surprise and took it nonetheless. At the end of the day, in any disputes, the T&C will prevail and the casino's decision will be regarded as final. Sorry mate, but it's no case for you, the way I see it.

Mistake there mate...should be 'Happy Mother's Day to my friends! There are a number of mothers here! But since it's a printed card...so no worries!

Immo, you got your 500 EUR back, so be thankful for that! As for that 250 EUR bonus, you did not complete the wagering, all everything was lost in the end. You have no case to complain against the T&C, or the casino. Once again, the casino has gotten the Gambling Authority's approval for that 7 days period to complete any wagerings, so that cannot be changed. If any player do not accept that term, then the player has the right not to play there. If the player still plays, then the terms come into force automatically...no case against that either! As to Askgamblers blacklisting the casino just for the 7 days period...who the heck is Askgamblers to do that??? Does Askgamblers have better insight or more power to override any Gambling Authority's Licensing approval? No way, mate, sorry! Help and assistance can only be provided to players when the casino is clearly in breach of one of their terms, or being unfair to player. Is 7 days unfair to players? No way!!! 99.9% of players can complete their wagering well within that 7 days. Only ignorant depositors would deposit big without considering the consequences of its accompanying wagerings!

Fact: After 7 days, you did not complete the 22,500 wagering on that 250 EUR, so the bonus money was removed automatically. Clear cut!

Okaaaay...read my notes again Immo... That 250 EUR bonus money does not carry 1x wagering! That was a mistake...either by the staff or whatever...I don't know. If you check their T&C, you can see a better picture of what's the actual wagering should be...and it definitely isn't 1x!!!

Aaaaah...that's much better and more clearer Immo. Let me go through it first...I haven't yet...

I guess it isn't just Cocopop who is confused...I am too! Let's get things straight one item at a time shall we Immo? 1). You deposited 500 EUR, took no bonus, then suddenly decided to make a withdrawal. Your withdrawal claim was rejected because the requirement is that you need to wager your deposit 1x before any withdrawal can be made. So, that 500 EUR was refunded back into your account. Correct so far, right, Immo? 2). You then finished that 1x wager as required and make a second withdrawal claim, This time your withdrawal was approved, right? 3). Whilst that withdrawal was approved but not yet paid out, the casino sent you an email and also added a bonus offer of 250 EUR into your account, right so far, Immo? ** Question is, you did not want any bonus in the first place when you made your deposit, so why did you accept this 250 EUR? You know it's not for free and that bonus money would certainly have bonus terms applied to it. A no-deposit bonus money, or free chip, usually carry 60x up to 100x wagering, so that's why that 90x wagering comes into play...AUTOMATICALLY...when you accepted that 250 EUR! ** Fact: Your withdrawal claim has already been approved by that time, but still in the process of payment. That 250 EUR was a free chip given to you as a 'token' for 'treating you bad'...so this token has NOTHING TO DO with your original deposit of 500 EUR, which has already been approved for withdrawal and under processing for payment. If you accepted the token free chip, then you also have accepted that 90x wagering, automatically! Had you refused to take it, no such thing would be imposed upon you, hence no problems at all. 4). Waited until 500 EUR withdrawal was completed. ??? I don't understand this part. Are you saying that you waited until you received that 500 EUR before doing anything else? Are you also saying that you did get the 500 EUR paid into your account? 5). Account was then with 250 EUR bonus with 1x wager. This is not correct! As I've said, any free chip or free bonus money carries at least 60x wagering up to 100x, depending on casino. There has never been any free chip or free bonus money that doesn't carry any wagering...UNLESS...it's a special BIRTHDAY gift from the casino, with a note stating that no-wagerings are attached to that birthday free chip! ** Fact: To state that the 250 EUR bonus money carries only 1x wagering is erroneous, perhaps an error by that casino staff...BUT...the casino's T&C would prevail in the end and in any dispute...thereby imposing back the correct wagering amount onto that 250 EUR, like it or not! 6). After correction of the error, the wagering imposed upon that 250 EUR was 22,500 EUR, meaning, you completed 500 EUR wagering by that time and so the balance was 22,000 EUR. 7). Your statement may not be applicable as what you have stated, because of the remaining 22,000 EUR wagering that needed to be completed, which you have assumed as completed, which wasn'! So that balance of 3100 EUR in your bonus account does not indicate the actual wagering balance left at that point in time...so you think this was 'reset' upon you...which I do not think so. So, Immo, go through each item, from item 1) up to item 7)...and tell me what or which item is not correct as I saw it. Then we can try and sort things out more straightforwardly.

Good...good...get the bear down one day, that should be a huge win.

I remember him talking about a new job which would keep him very busy...that must be the reason.

Hmmm...this Jungle game certainly is home for you, ain't it mate? Well done!

Yeah...and don't forget Hajnrih...he was second before I overtook him.

I must be extra nice to the Princess from now on...so that she'll give me a very nice 600x win to beat your high score mate! Hahaha.

Well mate...let's just say that I had wanted a bigger win...to cover back what I had lost on that blardy game! Hmmm...I sure did Helena darling...at times, greed takes over my mind and soul! Next time? Not on Break Da Bank Again...it'll break me first again...