Videoslots Battle of the Slots - Mobile

[Afi4wins]

42 minutes ago, pinnit2015 said:

Sorry, should have been clearer: they didn’t lower themselves, they’re now hosting the lower RTP version that PNG offer them....

MG for example don’t offer this.

And I can say for sure that my Supe It Up game is playing exactly as expected over many casinos that I have played recently, even at European casinos...and for that , my salute to Microgaming!

Playtech, on the other hand, is now playing like rubbish! Free spins games taking well over 300 spins each time, then paying peanuts...Safari Heat is almost dead, True Love (where still available) is following Safari Heat's footsteps...so much so, I'm now freezing all Playtech games...for an indefinite period of cooling time! 

[pinnit2015]

23 minutes ago, ValDes said:

To be honest, I have some doubts regarding Play'N Go offering such an option for operators. I know for sure Real Time Gaming and TopGame /PragmaticPlay nowadays/ provide such an option, but PNG... a top-notch gaming provider with an impeccable reputation... 

Gees, simply refuse to believe that! 

There is no doubt, sorry 

Check the help file of PNG games on VS and Casino Heroes and you’ll see the 94. Go to Redbet for example and you’ll see the 96  (for U.K. at least)

Pragmatic play and Red Tiger also offer the reduced RTPs.

Basically, if it’s in a taxed jurisdiction like U.K. and Germany you’re getting the lower ones and if not, they’ll keep the 96. Gee, thanks! 

Times must be tough....

 

 

[pinnit2015]

Excuse me whilst I go off and try and get Garga on VS 

3000 spins later... nothing new then

 

[Fiekie247]

36 minutes ago, ValDes said:

To be honest, I have some doubts regarding Play'N Go offering such an option for operators. I know for sure Real Time Gaming and TopGame /PragmaticPlay nowadays/ provide such an option, but PNG... a top-notch gaming provider with an impeccable reputation... 

Gees, simply refuse to believe that! 

Yeah Same here V

But my like on PNG slots actually went down the drain at Videoslots since end of last year.

So I am not sure if its related, but I hardly play PnG at Videoslots anymore and TBH - I launce the slot at Casumo, 10 spins later Bonus/Free spins in Moon Princess or Queen's Tilt easily.

[ValDes]

47 minutes ago, pinnit2015 said:

There is no doubt, sorry 

Check the help file of PNG games on VS and Casino Heroes and you’ll see the 94. Go to Redbet for example and you’ll see the 96  (for U.K. at least)

Pragmatic Play and Red Tiger also offer the reduced RTPs.

Basically, if it’s in a taxed jurisdiction like U.K. and Germany you’re getting the lower ones and if not, they’ll keep the 96. Gee, thanks! 

Times must be tough....

 

39 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said:

Yeah Same here V

But my like on PNG slots actually went down the drain at Video Slots since end of last year.

So I am not sure if its related, but I hardly Play PnG at Video Slots anymore and TBH - I launce the slot at Casumo, 10 spins later Bonus/Free spins in Moon Princess or Queen's Tilt easily.

Still refuse to believe that.  

Perhaps @Team_Videoslots could confirm? 

[blondie]

I really wasn't aware of such thing and I find it very interesting, I'm curious to hear more/ comments from Videoslots Rep.

[pinnit2015]

1 hour ago, ValDes said:

 

Still refuse to believe that.  

Perhaps @Team_Videoslots could confirm? 

You’re gonna have to once they confirm

Start calling you doubting Thomas

 

[pinnit2015]

Ones VS...One's Redbet's....bottom left. Always check the help file of PNG's and the others that produce different RTP's for casinos to 'buy' - Netent etc only offer 1. For now.

 

 

[pinnit2015]

Seemingly on the news section: didn't get the email so never even saw. That's VS/Casino heroes that i know of. IGT (a horrible provider IMO) offer 3 i think: all the way down to 92 %. 

 

[ValDes]

Thanks for sharing mate, appreciate that!  

Obviously, that's something  totally new for me and still cannot believe that PNG could be part of it. Shame, they were my absolute #1 in over the last 18 months or so... 

[pinnit2015]

5 minutes ago, ValDes said:

Thanks for sharing mate, appreciate that!  

Obviously, that's something  totally new for me and still cannot believe that PNG could be part of it. Shame, they were my absolute #1 in over the last 18 months or so... 

Still not sure about the tax 'reason' as the UK ones don't increase until Oct-19, but regardless, just need to be careful when playing. Some maths kid pointed out that even a 2 % drop leads to half the play time over X amount of spins.

I'd imagine the increase regulatory costs are having more of an impact that a 6% hike in tax. Even so, I'm not privy to VS's accounts, but is doing that the best option? I'm not so sure. 

Not singling out VS here but as a matter of principle it doesn't sit well with me that people go 'give them the lower RTP, the 4 odd % house edge just isn't enough'. 

Sadly, with reduced bonus offering, a sign of things to come unfortunately. 

If games providers continue to lower their RTP's you'd be as well going landbased - least you have a good night out and whisky all round. 

[pinnit2015]

PS if this is how Moon Princess plays on 94% I'm oota here

[ValDes]

Well, at least VS did the right thing and informed their players for applying the RTP change.  Why I have the odd feeling there won't be many other UK licensed operator to follow their example...

As for the taxation reasoning... Well, you know probably even better than me that someone should always pay the difference or should I call it the 'bill'. Why seeking any other channels/options to cover your potential losses when there's such an easy tool at hand called TRTR tweak.  

[Fiekie247]

Gees with the last few posts and confirmation of the lower RTP I experienced it all over Moon Princess,

Empty spins after empty spin during battle and normal play. Tried that Queen's tilt, 20 empty spins easily after each other.

I think for PnG I will go back to casumo.

 

I got about 30/40 rewards with 4/5/6 spins in Moon princess each so far, I have made a profit of $5 in total from all those spins I think.

[pinnit2015]

1 hour ago, Fiekie247 said:

Gees with the last few posts and confirmation of the lower RTP I experienced it all over Moon Princess,

Empty spins after empty spin during battle and normal play. Tried that Queen's tilt, 20 empty spins easily after each other.

I think for PnG I will go back to Casumo.

 

I got about 30/40 rewards with 4/5/6 spins in Moon princess each so far, I have made a profit of $5 in total from all those spins I think.

Apparently there's a third setting...91% If you play at a place with that you may as well just cut the casino the cheque without playing.

Casino Heroes, Lucky Dino, Karamba are some of the others with the 94%.

As V says, this can change any day and there's no obligation on them to tell you so you really need to check the help file (it's a regulation to include the RTP in this file in the UK, not sure about other places)

Playing my PNG's at Stakers and they must have theirs on 200% because I've never seen as many good garga's in a few sessions.