Double Up or Gamble Features

[Flatzem]

Hey all,

 

what's up with the gamble features not being available for Microgaming flash games even though they have them for download versions!

And another thing why aren't all games equipped with the option of gamble features? that includes all download versions, if one can have it then all should.

Microgaming should get this installed on all their games. Give us the option to choose what percentage of the stake we are gambling, make it 25%, 50%, 100%.

 

Flatzem

 

[raverbabe]

Yes!! Give us a pie gamble in all MGS games that would be amazing Honestly that would make me use this feature much more, probably too much.

[cocopop3011]

I never use this feature, just doesn't appeal to me at all.

[raverbabe]

I never use this feature, just doesn't appeal to me at all.

 

Even a pie gamble? When I can reserve a portion of my win, and choose the odds of turning the remainder into a little bit more, the feature becomes a whole lot more enticing. Several times I have reserved just a couple of pounds of a big win and "Pie'd it" up to the maximum win of £500 or whatever it might be. Of course it's gone horribly wrong a few times as well, but I only lost that initial £2 I left over from my win really - and theres zero house edge on these bets as well.

I agree though, the typical red/black or "Pick a suit" gamble feature is garbage!

[cocopop3011]

Even a pie gamble? When I can reserve a portion of my win, and choose the odds of turning the remainder into a little bit more, the feature becomes a whole lot more enticing. Several times I have reserved just a couple of pounds of a big win and "Pie'd it" up to the maximum win of £500 or whatever it might be. Of course it's gone horribly wrong a few times as well, but I only lost that initial £2 I left over from my win really - and theres zero house edge on these bets as well.

I agree though, the typical red/black or "Pick a suit" gamble feature is garbage!

 

Nope I've never been interest in the features at all. The typical red/black feature as you said is complete and utter rubbish. I'd actually love to know what percentage of players actually use this feature at all!

[Flatzem]

Doubling up 5 times in a row and multiplying your initial win by 32 is not bad at all. Turning a fiver into 160 for example. Of course losing on the 5th double up can be a bit devastating.

 

I was once at a club and there was a chinese couple that were taking several minutes per decision on what colour to pick and they said they would do this at all clubs/casinos they visit.

 

Also at other clubs I seen when someone wins a big slot win/video poker win then they get another customer to ask the winner if they will let them play on the machine and give em say a beer or some money in addition to the credits in the machine, and then that customer will then attempt to double up the large win.

 

There are times a slot can get stuck on one colour for more than a dozen times, there was a club that tried to refuse winnings to one of the customers (don't know how exactly that case ended up) that had a long winning streak on the double up feature. They kept betting on the same colour and winning and winning thousands.

 

Flatzem

[Afi4wins]

Well, there are occasional gamblers, there are casual gamblers and there are fanatical gamblers.

Each sees the 'Double Up' feature differently.

 

I'm a diehard slot player, but not a fanatical gambler, that's a world of a difference there, so any doubling up of my wins do not attract me at all, despite the so-called apparent 50-50 chance of winning the double up. Does this really work? Not the way I see it. Nothing is 50-50 chance to me. There are too many variables coming into play with such a simplistic decision making move. Yes, there have been a few people who had incredible lucky winning streaks by doubling up or by sticking to the same colour repeatedly, but this is just like a lottery win. You may win it one time that way, then lose it a thousand times the same way!

 

Getting a good decent win from a slot spin or from a Free Spins game can be a blardy hard-earned win in most cases, especially when the previous plays have all been rotten and dry. Then when a consolationary good win comes along, why try and lose it all again by trying to double up? In bits, in halves or in full amount, it doesn't really matter. What you are attempting to do is to get that second bird in the bush, but risking the bird in your hand, and in probably 90% of the times, you may end up losing it all!

 

Playing this doubling up way will eventually lead to GREATER LEVELS OF GREED, and we all know where and what that can do to anyone!

 

True, no two gamblers are the same, nor play or gamble the same way. I've gone through all these mucks in various stages of my slot plays over the years, have seen just about everything possibly or impossible, have won a few big wins by doubling up but losing thousands more times in trying again, until one fine day everything becomes clear as day, and I've stayed away since then.

 

Be satisfied with what you've got for the moment...that second bird in the bush may just be a devil in disguise, or a small pot of gold...you won't know it until you confront it, then it may already be too late.

 

Wisdom comes from real practical experiences, not necessarily from age or with age, so wise players may not be attracted at all by this doubling up feature. Temptations in younger lives are incredibly hard to push aside. The curiosity levels are similar to any cat's. Anything new must not stay untried. Eat the cake or simply get fried.

 

Me? Do I even need to say what I will do after all what I've said? 

[Fiekie247]

I like the fact of the double up feature, but on the other hand, i had a winnings streak and on my 4th double up i ended up loosing almost $200, that really upset me the whole day. You know the games that has a collect button after winnings, and the gamble feature next to it.

 

I once made a huge win of over $150 on a game and wanted to press the collect button but accidentally clicked on the gamble button and i could not exit the gamble feature unless i finish that round. Luckily i made the win and collected, but just imagined if i had lost and those were my last funds i used to deposit. So its a yes and no for me, but for most, i would say No to the gamble/double up feature.

[Afi4wins]

I like the fact of the double up feature, but on the other hand, i had a winnings streak and on my 4th double up i ended up loosing almost $200, that really upset me the whole day. You know the games that has a collect button after winnings, and the gamble feature next to it.

 

I once made a huge win of over $150 on a game and wanted to press the collect button but accidentally clicked on the gamble button and i could not exit the gamble feature unless i finish that round. Luckily i made the win and collected, but just imagined if i had lost and those were my last funds i used to deposit. So its a yes and no for me, but for most, i would say No to the gamble/double up feature.

 

Needless to say Fiekie mate (hmm, I like the first nick better!  ), the same had happened to me quite a number of times too previously, but mostly ending up on the losing side. I really hate some older games that do not provide the 'collect' option, so no way out but to proceed on, to win or to lose.

 

But once in awhile, my fingers do get itchy, I would press the gamble button, try my luck for 1 or 2 clicks, but only with small win amounts, NEVER with big wins, unless only by accident and no way out. Heck, even the experienced and wise ones cannot control their temptations once in awhile. 

[Fiekie247]

Needless to say Fiekie mate (hmm, I like the first nick better!  ), the same had happened to me quite a number of times too previously, but mostly ending up on the losing side. I really hate some older games that do not provide the 'collect' option, so no way out but to proceed on, to win or to lose.

 

But once in awhile, my fingers do get itchy, I would press the gamble button, try my luck for 1 or 2 clicks, but only with small win amounts, NEVER with big wins, unless only by accident and no way out. Heck, even the experienced and wise ones cannot control their temptations once in awhile. 

I had to change my username as i had login issues with the new site and needed to use my name, since i used the Facebook login, my username was that fb_0000 nonsense and i couldn't remember it. So i changed my username and that is why its like that now. Everyone knows me as Shafiek, maybe i might change it back.

 

To be honest i was on a loosing streak and i had $2 left and played king tiger and made a $3.3 win, used the double up feature and won $6.6. left the game cooled of for an hour or more and started played Burning Cherries on $0.50 bet and hit the x5000 line bet which was $500 win ( (which can  be found in winner screenshots) . I completed wagering and withdraw almost $400. now that is when i give this feature credit, but other than that not for days.

See attached

[Afi4wins]

WOW! Now that is one damn lucky win there mate. Congrats for that!

 

Wish I could make a win like that, and so do a million others too! 

 

Hope our Admin here can resolve your nickname issue.

The old system allows changing of nicknames, but I don't see this feature anymore.

[Fiekie247]

here is that win

[raverbabe]

I often do a lot of doubling up when I play video poker, but the trouble with hoping to double up five times is your odds of getting there (at the beginning at least) are fairly horrible.. if you have a 50% shot at doubling up once, you only have 25% of doing it twice... by the time you get to your fifth double your around 3%. Of course if you make it past the first 4 you have 50/50 to double up again, so it all depends how you look at it, but with slot games your odds of a win are so low to begin with that adding a 33:1 shot on the end is too much for me to risk most of the time - my bankroll wouldn't last very long if it wasn't being topped up along the way by smaller wins, which is why I only really like these options when I don't have to risk the whole win to have a punt.

[cocopop3011]

In my early days of slots I of course tried the Gamble feature but never ever won from it. Maybe once or twice I picked the right colour but it was just a complete waste of time and I soon learned that the feature just wasn't for me. I'd never risk my winnings on the feature especially a huge win!

[ValDes]

Hey all, what's up with the gamble features not being available for Microgaming flash games even though they have them for download versions! And another thing why aren't all games equipped with the option of gamble features? that includes all download versions, if one can have it then all should. Microgaming should get this installed on all their games. Give us the option to choose what percentage of the stake we are gambling, make it 25%, 50%, 100%. Flatzem

 

Totally agree, the double up feature must be available for all available software versions and platforms. And for all games as well, although I'm pretty sure that would turn into a 'programmer's nightmare' as it would most probably mean changing RNG model of the particular casino game a bit...

 

Just like Afi4wins above, I'm pretty much done with doubling while gambling online, however using that feature back in my early video poker days was a must. Had some amazing double up streaks, doubling successfully 4 wild deuces maybe 9 out of 10 times in a row... Not even sure if this is possible now, I mean to use the double up feature on the highest wins...

 

Anyways, like Afi said, greed overcomes common sense eventually, so really not interested in putting any of my hard earned winnings into any additional risk such as doubling up for example.  

[raverbabe]

Just like Afi4wins above, I'm pretty much done with doubling while gambling online, however using that feature back in my early video poker days was a must. Had some amazing double up streaks, doubling successfully 4 wild deuces maybe 9 out of 10 times in a row... Not even sure if this is possible now, I mean to use the double up feature on the highest wins...

 

 

In the video poker games the option to double up after a royal flush is usually available but I've never had the balls to actually attempt it! The biggest risk I have pursued would be a large quads hit in double double bonus, I would only go for a single double up though and I've been close to tears on the days it went wrong and I essentially threw the whole lot straight into the toilet. If I could save a portion of the win I would definitely be much more willing - if I'm on the Playtech VP for example I will often double first time, then half double the second (therefore banking the full initial win).

 

It's the sweetest feeling when you hit the double button and see a deuce on the left though ! Unless I go on to pick a deuce, then I want to cry again !

[ValDes]

In the video poker games the option to double up after a royal flush is usually available but I've never had the balls to actually attempt it! The biggest risk I have pursued would be a large quads hit in double double bonus, I would only go for a single double up though and I've been close to tears on the days it went wrong and I essentially threw the whole lot straight into the toilet. If I could save a portion of the win I would definitely be much more willing - if I'm on the Playtech VP for example I will often double first time, then half double the second (therefore banking the full initial win).

 

It's the sweetest feeling when you hit the double button and see a deuce on the left though ! Unless I go on to pick a deuce, then I want to cry again !

 

You know the outcome has been predefined long ago before seeing that card on the left, don't you... Agree though, sometimes these 'visual teasers' are the ones which deliver the real fun when gambling online. 

[raverbabe]

I do Valdes, I've had a big debate with somebody in the past about whether it is "fair" that the result of the pick will be the same regardless of which card you choose .. I do understand why some might feel they are being cheated but I also appreciate the simple fact that you still have the same 1 in 4 chance regardless of the way it is represented visually. 

I much prefer the "Pick a card" type of gamble over the red/black type, because sometimes you can get a very low card and so have a better chance, and vice versa. However, I've heard some say that essentially the game simply chooses if you win, lose or draw and serves up a card to represent that choice - does anybody know if this is correct? I feel sure it cannot be, because I definitely win much more often with a "2" than I do a "K", but I've never seen any statistics that confirm things either way. Maybe I'll compile some one day!

 

[ValDes]

I do believe that it doesn't really matter if the game would display ''2'' or ''K'', simply because if the predefined outcome of the double up round has already been set /and that's something we both obviously believe to be the case/, the game will then select a suitable card to beat it. Sure, beating "2" seems like a way easier card to beat assuming there are 48 'bigger' cards left in the deck, but somehow I am totally convinced that the chances to lose with  a  ''2'' on the right are just as equal as beating a ''K''. Wish we could get a confirmation of that one day from one or more of the biggest players on the gambling software market such as NetEnt, Microgaming, Playtech, etc, but we both know that ain't gonna happen soon as they all defend and keep their RNG models in top secret. 

 

Until that day, I guess what we could do to make our gambling lives easier is to pay less attention to all these 'visual teasers' and focus on searching Lady Luck's 'close encounters' if you know what I mean.

[raverbabe]

In that specific example though if there is a "2" on the left, it's impossible to lose - only win or draw. With a "K" all three possibilities are there. So I wonder if the chance of turning over a "2" is dramatically higher than it should be? Bah I really want to know now, I'd managed to forget about this conundrum again for ages!

[Flatzem]

video poker gamble feature is the most tilting thing ever, when you see dealer has a K and then u pick a card to reveal lower than K and then other cards also show you had no chance to equal or beat the dealers card. 

[raverbabe]

Well if what me and Valdes were guessing at turns out to be true, it doesn't actually matter what any of the cards show ... for certain though the decision is made the second you hit the gamble button.

 

Here's one of those weird superstitions I have, after the first double before I go for a second one I usually wait a few seconds rather than hitting the button again straight away... I swear I get consistently better results doing this. I know it's almost certainly just my head playing tricks but it really does seem to work??

[ValDes]

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Here's one of those weird superstitions I have, after the first double before I go for a second one I usually wait a few seconds rather than hitting the button again straight away... I swear I get consistently better results doing this. I know it's almost certainly just my head playing tricks but it really does seem to work??

 

One of the greatest 'gambling superstitions' I've heard so far, really!  I have at least a dozen of these myself to be honest so here it is, another great idea of a new forum topic - My Gambling Superstitions.