Johnny's Proven System - A method for a life long gambler to maintain control of his addiction explained

[hajnrih]

Great Run Johnny. Hope I don't see a zero balance by morning from you. Respect your cash out limit. DO NOT DISAPPOINT. 

[Johnnygotthebone]

Hey Haj..... My cash out limit is now 2500. Not a penny below.

 

Reached 3600+ and took a break.... BDBA was not friendly. At all.

 

Neither was DOA. By far the worst free spins I ever had. Twice 0

 

Immortal paid well.

 

Now sitting at 3000

 

2500 I walk.

 

PROVEN SYSTEM must be respected. If i fail once, then it's all for nothing.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Finito...... 2500 it is!

 

I'm done on Next casino for this week.

 

I can't post withdrawAl screen shot because it has the is number and my bank account number as well.

 

I don't even caRe about the reverse time. Jetbull tomorrow and NOXwin(50-50)on Wed.

 

So...... Week two will be at least a profit of 1500!

 

Maybe more!

 

 

Later

[Johnnygotthebone]

I found a way to show it.......

[Johnnygotthebone]

Day 2....

 

Deposited 250(can). 227 US dollars. Jetbull is US dollars!

 

I always try to play safe games in the beginning to get some breathing room.

 

Not good to play DOA or TS II when starting out.

 

Next casino got the withdrawal request yesterday for 2500. Yes I reached 3600+ but who cares. I will not dwell on that I went for the biggie and missed. But becasue I am in total control, I did what I said and cashout the minimum i said I would. PROVEN SYSTEM modules respected!

 

There is no chance of a reverse. None.

 

Jetbull gave me some breathing room. Now I will take a 3-6 hour break. I must not make me playing the sole action of my day. No more. Now, I will do other things. Sitting at 450. Let it sit.

[catapultaudio]

Hi Valdes.  For some reason I cannot quote anything, but responding to your last thread. Unfortunately I think you will ultimately may be sorry for allowing these discussions to happen here. 

 

I did just recently see that this person started another Proven System at another forum.  They stopped the thread very quickly, so quick I never even had a chance to respond to the thread at the other forum.  There was a comment that they wouldn't allow that type of talk at that forum because people were complaining.

 

How do you know that a majority of the members are not complaining here about this content?  There was a message sent out at another forum saying that if the forum didn't stop the topic, the members were going to leave the forum. 

 

This is a business after all.  Not trying to tell you what to do, but you certainly don't want fall out from people being upset at this silly topic.  Most people elsewhere do think it is a bunch of nonsense.  I really don't think it would be much different here other than the fact that this forum is really the only one that allows the discussion to be happening.

 

Himself, I can understand your frustration, but I think that Jonny has got himself a legitimate position here now, particularly now the thread title has been changed, which was one of the big issues at the other forum you mentioned. If the majority of members here WERE complaining, it is ValDes that they would be complaining to, therefore I think its safe to say Johnny is not doing annoying too many people here, and ValDes has already sorted out the misleading thread title.

 

Johnny I am interested in WHY the name "PROVEN SYSTEM" is so important to you, also the capital letters?What is the significance? Not sure if it was here I mentioned, but I see what you are doing as being the "harm-reduction" approach to problem gambling. It's the methadone program of the gambling world, for those who are not ready to stop completely but would like to take charge of their addiction rather than it controlling them. It is an admirable persuit, so why not take it seriously? Why ruin the idea by insisting on giving it a name that gamblers will immediately associate with a betting system?

 

Anyway, reading your posts, I think you did well to resist the temptation at the weekend. I still believe you have a serious problem that needs to be addressed, but going on your posts here, it seems your under no illusions about that fact. It would be nice to see you turn a profit this week, after falling flat last time. Nevertheless, if you do finish in profit, don't fool yourself that you can repeat it next week. You get lucky this time, others you don't - there is no style, no SYSTEM that will help to ensure a win. But you already iknow that, right?!

 

One more thing. It's interesting to note how 'tedious' you find it, trying to work your way up to the thousands - you only seem to truly enjoy yourself when you are betting ultra-crazy amounts when you are a grand or more past your cash out point, and "going for the big one". Thats such a dangerous position to be in, but I genuinly envy how exciting it must be. It's not hard to see why it would be addictive!

[Johnnygotthebone]

Cata......

 

This week is a profitable week. No matter what happens with Jetbull and Noxwin tomorrow I will come out on top. But the whole point is not to win. It's too have fun. And I am having fun.

 

You mentioned something about excitement when going for the biggie. Actually, it's when I am miserable. Losing 1000 in 10 minutes 9/10 times is not amusing. Sure I may hit 10'or 15k once in a blue moon but it's not really enjoyable most of the time.

 

You say I need help..... Actually I don't need help. As long as I can control myself, then it's ok.

 

Next Casino has not been reversed. 2500 should be processed soon I hope. Dunno how long pending period is for them.

 

Casino Luck busted becasue I was stupid. Just stupid. I played the wrong games. I know better. I did not make the same mistake with Next Casino. I played the right games and it paid off. I peaked close to 4k. Maybe I should have stopped. Who knows. With more practical use of this PROVEN SYSTEM, I will reach that level.

 

Why is it always in caps.... To bother people like HIMSelf who thinks that medication is the only answer to a gambling sickness. No thanks!

 

Capital letters are used to attract the attention of all gamers. Cata.... How many people do you think have a gambling sickness and don't even know it. Not even denial. They are just so used to that habit, it is part of them. It is normal.

 

Why the name PROVEN SYSTEM..... Actually, it needs to be broken down to be understood..

 

 

PROVEN- what exactly does this mean? Well, for me, it means to prove to yourself that you can control your illness. It means that if you managed to do everything that is needed, then you have PROVEN to yourself that you can change the way your brain thinks.

 

SYSTEM-nothing to do with winning. Totally nothing. SYSTEM is a way to maximize your happiness. From A-Z. All modules out together and excecuted in sync is a SYSTEM of control.

 

PROVEN SYSTEM for me on day two is in FULL FORCE......

 

Avoiding a reverse withdrawal

Not obsessing. Played his morning. A bit in the afternoon. No more for today

Established a minimum cashout and respected it. (Next casino)

I am not thinking about gaming 24/7 what so ever.

Actually appreciating a minimal 2500 withdrawal (if u only knew what I've reversed!)

Treating the actual experience as a hobby

And most of all.....just having fun.

 

I may go bust tomorrow on Jet Bull and Noxwin(tomorrow deposit 195) but it doesn't matter. What matters is that I don't play again until next Monday. That I control myself. That I make it a HABIT to be this way. Where it's natural for me.

 

 

Yes I will end up with a profit for week two. Very happy with that. It is no where near the happiness I feel if I continue respecting every module.

 

Everyone with my illness should start their own PROVEN SYSTEM. And respect it. Everyone is different. Every PROVEN SYSTEM will be unique. End result though is the same.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Hello again everyone....

 

For those who have emailed me or PM me here.... Please don't be afraid to tell people your story. Before I was able to start making myself better, I basically humiliated myself on forums everywhere. Humility makes you stronger. Trust me.

 

This forum is here to share and learn. No one will judge you. It's not like the others. Be real. It took a while for me to be "tolerated" by the mods. Maybe because I am a little overboard.

 

For those who want to do their own PROVEN SYSTEM or those who have started and I can confirm it's going well for a few so far, please post here. It's better than PM. Maybe someone else can offer some better insight than me. My PROVEN SYSTEM is only catered to me. I did that after reading thousands of lines of thread on forums. I have learned so much.

 

In may.... I was depositng 1000 at a time on 32 red and spinning BDBA at full or batman or whatever no control. I learned not to do this. How didn't learn. By listening.

 

I used to think all MG/NT games were rigged!

 

Inused to think that if I look at the payouts they would think I was a newbie and pay me.

 

 

I couldn't care less about what people think of me. I post what I feel. Do the same. That's the beginning of any PROVEN SYSTEM.... Stop hiding it. Believe it or not, exposing any issue is like lifting a huge weight off your shoulders.

[hajnrih]

I'm getting sick of this addiction nonsense going on over here. If you're a member here and you gamble yes you are addicted. If someone gave you 100 bucks as a present on your Neteller account right now would you withdraw the money or make a deposit somewhere and try to win more. I know I will deposit. No question about it. If i had 100 000 bucks on my account heck I would gamble at least half of it. Even if I hit something big on a game I will just try another game trying to hit big again. It's not about the money it's about the excitement of a big win. Hitting big beats everything. The adrenaline goes off the rooftop. Money comes and goes, it's the excitement that maters . 

 

Anyway, Johnny how about sharing some info about the actual gameplay of the system you use. What games do you play, what stakes  how the heck do you get your balance from 250 to 1k and over. Step to step guide 

[Johnnygotthebone]

I guess u read my PM....

 

Dude.... You sound really mad! Wow. I see u just wanna win. So let's do it!

 

A-play games you know. Even though it's all random.... Knowing games will help you walk away. I turned 250 into 10k and even 25k several times because I have played the Same games over and over again.

 

 

Here is an example of how I win. Remember. I am 1/7 since week one. Yes I reach close to 4k but went for the biggie too fast too early.

 

250 in. No bonus

 

Games I played.

 

 

Starburst 2-3 per spin

Balance goes to 200, I walk

Balance goes to 300 I play until next level.... (250 walk) 400(350 walk)

 

 

Eg walk at 350..... Mystic dreams 4.50 per spin or eagles wings 3.75. Either lose 20% of stack and walk or use same walk method as starburst. If I hit a big win on anything.... Everything changes. Then you need to make different moves.

 

 

Yes I went 1/7 but every casino except Go wild had tripled my 250 before I lost it.

 

 

I am certain you played a million spins. Find 3 games you know well. Try to understand and see if you can feel.

 

Eg. TS II..... I know 9/10 times when to pick 10 free spins. Starburst and TS II are the easiest games to read. Even if I am 20% accurate, it's better than 0!

 

 

 

End result. Play games you know. At games with extremely low variance. If you reach 1k, change it up. 1% of $1000 is 10 bucks. I usually play TS II for 6. 300 loss max. If it pays, it pays well.

 

It's all random. 100%. Impossible to predict what will pay. But........ If your brain thinks it can see a pattern, it may help u walk away thus avoiding a loss.

 

Last week I put in 195 at noxwin..... Twin spin started off with 5 light ups in a row???? Never saw that before. Didn't pay much. Nevertheless. I felt it would hit..... It did

 

After, I actually went to DOA. I almost broker it there. 4 wilds in a row with 5 or six spins left. I didn't do anything but press spin. All luck for DOA.

 

I reached 6500+ and set a minimal cashout at 5k.

 

 

I wish I could tell u how to win but I can't. I can only tell you this......... If u have the same problem like me, do something about it.

 

Use every tool to help you. Believe me my friend.... That rush you talk about winning is embedded in my brain and will never leave.

 

I expect my own personal PROVEN SYSTEM to do the following.....

 

Control my time of gaming

Control my constant thinking of gambling

Make me actually have fun

Win a lot of money. I want 10k a week. That is my goal.

Be in total control of my destiny

 

 

 

 

"""U might say 10k a week Bone from 1000 deposit? Get real???? """

 

 

 

Actually..... It's possible. Once I get Into the groove and some "going for the biggies" hit... I know I can do it.

 

 

Anyone can make money. Just don't obsess over it.

[hajnrih]

I had a similar run on Starburst. 3 out of 4 times i managed to tripple my balance. The fourth time i got my balance x 10 the deposit. Using my own system. Unfortunately the first 3 times i went to 0 on DOA but the fourth was Starburst all the way and cashed out.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Low variance games are better I. The beginning.

 

DOA is exactly what it's name says!

 

Dead or alive. Usually dead! I never saw a games free spins constantly pay less than 5x wager.

[Johnnygotthebone]

I had a similar run on Starburst. 3 out of 4 times i managed to tripple my balance. The fourth time i got my balance x 10 the deposit. Using my own system. Unfortunately the first 3 times i went to 0 on DOA but the fourth was Starburst all the way and cashed out.

 

 

10x deposit on stArburst is amazing!

[hajnrih]

So far Starburst is the only one I see some pattern in. Any other NetEnt games to suggest that fit the profile?

[Johnnygotthebone]

Y'all who know me know I do not lie.....

 

First and last time I will paste picture of proof I didn't reverse.

 

Good job to Next Casino! Less than 24 hours reverse time. Excellent!

[hajnrih]

10x deposit on stArburst is amazing!

took about 3 hours of play. actually it was 11,5 x deposit. Left some to gamble on. Not playing yet though. 

[Johnnygotthebone]

So far Starburst is the only one I see some pattern in. Any other NetEnt games to suggest that fit the profile?

 

Twin spin is tough. But if it pays...... Man it pays!

 

Better to goto Burning desire. If u keep hitting the 9's and 10's every other spin. Keep playing. If unhit free spins fast and it pays less than 20x wager.....run away!

[Johnnygotthebone]

Haj...... Don't experiment. Play games u play often. Do not experiment!

 

 

Post some screenies. Hope u win a fortune.

 

Nite.

[hajnrih]

Will try to make another 10x deposit from the leftover and post. Nite

[Himself]

Hello again everyone....

For those who have emailed me or PM me here.... Please don't be afraid to tell people your story. Before I was able to start making myself better, I basically humiliated myself on forums everywhere. Humility makes you stronger. Trust me.

 

"For those that have pmd you"? You come off as your popular and continue to have to substantiate yourself, serious denial and ego. You humiliated yourself on other forums? You love the attention.

 

You again say you don't have a problem. You admit you have a problem buy continue to fuel it. This I'd the exact proof that your still in denial. Your stories have no credibility because of your denial. Your denial means that your statements can be the furthest from the truth, most addicts cant tell the truth. Sending screenshots and talking about it doesn't mean anything.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Hey himself.... Hope all is well.

 

The beauty about PROVEN SYSTEM is that it not only controls the gambling, it mkesnit fun and exciting. Screen shots of some nice wins are the bonus for be respecful to ones self.

 

I assume u r some sort of person who deals with people who can not control their gaming and have reached the end? Maybe a good idea is to create a unique PROVEN SYSTEM for each person that you see. Try to make them start off by controlling their illness. I believe that's much better than medication.

 

Just my two sense

[Awena]

You are in control module

[Johnnygotthebone]

You are in control module

100%. 24 days and I have done everything PROVEN SYSTEM modules demand. Everything.

 

From the first day avoiding all gaming until exclusions end to not reversing. Followed to the tee. Very happy and guess what.... It's becoming a habit to respect the modules. I knew this would happen. Eventually, it will get easier and easier as the brain gets accustomed to this new "life style".

 

I am so happy it's working.

 

I actually never had a doubt to be honest. I was so miserable before. Even when I was winning. For Christ's sake, I was letting starburst run while I was in the shower???? Ridiculous. I was reversing 13000US dollars from a 190 deposit. I think about those days and get nautious.

 

Change is possible. Anyone can change. Anyone.

 

Winning big money in August was good, if it wasn't for PROVEN SYSTEM, I would have convinced my wife to let me to to vegas or something and blown it all. Oh yeah! 100%

 

Instead, I gave it all to her for the kids. And I have absolutely no regrets! None.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Update day 3 week 2....

 

Casino Luck lost 250(peAked at 800+)

JetBull lost 250CAN(peaked at 480us)

Next Casino cashed out 2500... Processed(peaked at 3700)

NoxWin casino depositing 200 today

 

No bonuses were given or asked for.

 

 

Noxwin will not see a bet over $2 unless I reach $1000.....

 

I may low roll it all the way.

 

DOA @ .90 etc.......

 

5 dAys left until next round of deposits. Noxwin low rolling may keep me playing for a day or two. Important. Can not go bust there today. Low roll is the key to avoid end of week urges

[Johnnygotthebone]

Although I had an amazing run at NOXWIN two weeks ago.... No more. $200-0 in 30 minutes. DOA all the way at 2.70 per spin. I figured play it and let it run. Not one free spin. Not a payout over the two scatters. I was laughing the whole time. It was sureal

 

Exclusion on NOXWIN is done.

 

 

 

End results for week two are as follows

 

Casino luck loss 250

Next casino win 2250

Jet Bull casino loss 250

NOxWin casino loss 200(currently excluded)

 

Now the fun begins. Wait until Monday. Have to respect the waiting period. Had fun these last three days. Now it is time to relax.

 

 

 

Over all winning and losing since The beginning is as follows......

 

 

Deposit total..... 1950

Withdrawal total 2500

 

 

Net profit excluding bank and Ukash fees(2%) is $550

 

This week will be easier than last week. Gonna get cash out tomorrow and buy myself a nice nothing! Lol.