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[pinnit2015]

Not sure if it's across the board but they're off.

No loss IMO

Only 2 years they've been about. Not as bad as, i think they were called Breakaway casino (not the UK biscuit), who lasted something mental like 3 weeks

 

[ValDes]

Thanks for the heads up, Mr P. 

Their AG review has already been updated accordingly. 

 

[Blackjax]

I assume this is the first victim of the new UKGC laws.

Mr @ValDes it would be best to merge this topic with new UKGC laws topic. The next few months on Askgamblers Casino review section is  going to be like a season of game of thrones lots of heads will roll (casinos I mean).

[ValDes]

Nah, prefer to pay special attention (dedicated forum topic) to any of these UKGC casino-exits...  

[pinnit2015]

1 hour ago, Blackjax said:

I assume this is the first victim of the new UKGC laws.

Mr @ValDes it would be best to merge this topic with new UKGC laws topic. The next few months on Askgamblers Casino review section is  going to be like a season of game of thrones lots of heads will roll (casinos I mean).

Market saturation and a re-weighing of the scales currently i think.  Last time i looked the number of licence holders in the UK was either up or stayed the same - in part, there hasn't been an exodus really and in some ways it's been good to see some of the weaker ones go.

As long as they've a strong sportsbook, many will continue but if bets are capped at 2 quid the mood may tilt. 

[pinnit2015]

And another toodle pip as well

 

[cocopop3011]

Here we go again then, history repeating itseld yet again...

[Fiekie247]

Yeah I knew something was happening.

They closed my account 2 months ago, suddenly not accepting players from my country etc.

However still get many promotional emails for free spins and 5 euro free bonus, however could not play them.

[pinnit2015]

Think Calzone Casino are offski as well...though they 'May' be back they say.

No they won't - why would you. 

[pinnit2015]

2 hours ago, Fiekie247 said:

Yeah I knew something was happening.

They closed my account 2 months ago, suddenly not accepting players from my country etc.

However still get many promotional emails for free spins and 5 euro free bonus, however could not play them.

There's something for their Data Protection Officer to look into - why is your data still being processed (to send out the promo emails) despite the a/c being closed. 

Volt casino above were ok - then they implemented the weirdest, hard to understand, loyalty scheme where you built a city and had key indicators such as 'happy' ratings across the population. To this day i still hadn't worked out of i could trade my coins/whatever it was, for 10 FS in Starburst. 

I asked their CS if a PHD and Masters was a pre-requisite for understanding how it works and they said that their customers understood it and it was intuitive (wotevs ) - aye, if you dug up Hawking he may have got it, but we'll never know.  

[Fiekie247]

and Another one bites the dust

 

I thought they doing well being part of Unibet group etc. - I guess not.

[Fiekie247]

54 minutes ago, pinnit2015 said:

There's something for their Data Protection Officer to look into - why is your data still being processed (to send out the promo emails) despite the a/c being closed. 

Volt casino above were ok - then they implemented the weirdest, hard to understand, loyalty scheme where you built a city and had key indicators such as 'happy' ratings across the population. To this day i still hadn't worked out of i could trade my coins/whatever it was, for 10 FS in Starburst. 

I asked their CS if a PHD and Masters was a pre-requisite for understanding how it works and they said that their customers understood it and it was intuitive (wotevs ) - aye, if you dug up Hawking he may have got it, but we'll never know.  

I guess no need - Since they closing already...

[Afi4wins]

7 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said:

and Another one bites the dust

 

I thought they doing well being part of Unibet group etc. - I guess not.

Must be honey-flavoured dust... 

[Blackjax]

Dont forget my comment up there.

[pinnit2015]

Well you can't blame the UKGC for IGame as they don't have a UK licence 

Seems to be a lot of switching of platforms at the moment; few moving away from Aspire Global, Dunder changing etc as well. Looks like they're all shuffling for position at the moment. 

Those 2.5 second spins are murder - was playing a Stakelogic game the other day and the delay both during and after the spins amounts to basically a 6 second delay nearly; not overstating it when you say it's unplayable. 

[pinnit2015]

Should probably note that a lot of casinos here in the UK are imposing limits now, subject to you sending them your tax returns etc - first seen it with Slotsmillion, then Casumo; been a few since then such as LV Bet are now doing it as well. Though, how they set them without knowing your expenses (tempting fate), doesn't make sense - i could earn 20k a year and have no expenses but have a higher disposable income than someone mortgaged up to the eyeballs on 300k a year etc. But i get why they're doing it. 

The UKGC has approx 18 million quid coming in as revenue - 16 of that comes from licence fees - seems odd that you'd then start implementing various things that could potentially see that 16 million drop and drop - think the term is Turkey's and Xmas. Presumably they have a half decent finance team so would be interesting to know if any of those chimed in on their board meetings and went 'Er, you might want to rethink that'. 

[ValDes]

IMO, it's only a matter of time prior Operators being forced to process the license fees to some government agency and/or state sponsored problem gambling organization instead to some UKGC banking account directly. This would be the last obstacle removed towards the Commission 'hands' being untied and their wildest imagination being unleashed towards more and more and more and more regulation, regulation, regulation, regulation...

Have I said more regulation? 

[Afi4wins]

In other words, casinos in UK are gonna be dead meat some time in the near future? 

[pinnit2015]

The review of the Gambling Act will probably have more effect than anything coming up - words are that Boris himself, you know, the incompetent Mr Bean figure, is taking a keen interest because, in the words of an MP, he sees it as 'people being exploited' - quite an irony that a Tory, whose party has exploitation as a founding pillar of their prawn sandwich brigade, suddenly has an issue with this, but ho hum (he didn't seem too fussed with the exploitation of poorly paid social care workers up until Covid, funnily enough).

My guess it wont be a simply updating of the Act but a complete re-haul - it was introduced under Tony Blair who, despite being lucky not to be in the Hague, did understand business and is relatively liberal in terms of allowing businesses to function. 

The House of Lords seems to be a bit of a problem, having a weird interest in all this. Quite ironic again that the UK, needing to break from from the shackles of an unelected EU (apparently), seems quite content to have, er, unelected landed gentry sticking their post retirement noses into things. 

Lord Foster was out recently saying that casinos were 'cashing in' on the pandemic and putting 'peoples' lives at risk. What utter tosh and again, the use of such emotive words to further an agenda - does Lord Foster play Bonanza on auto spin? Is he a fan of NYX or Quickfire? He probably doesn't even know who BTG are (lucky him, probably why he's a rich toff to be fair)

Then we have Labour's Tom Watson, a man who described casino's as dirty, money grabbing xyz...now becoming an advisor at the Betfair Group - couldn't make it up. The only money grabbing cretins here are the politicians (and some casinos tbf)

To give the GC a bit of leeway, they are caught somewhere between the reporting to Parliament (well, in as far as a non government body is/should) and the industry - there was criticism of them in the last report because the politicians didn't like the fact the 18m of licence fees was only something like 0.2% of the Gross yield (11 billion?)  and they wanted more to divert into problem gambling but the GC seemingly didn't want this. 

[pinnit2015]

And...the biggest so far IMO.

Betsson Group: Betsafe, Casinoeuro etc

Up yours UK.

It's a Brexiteers Dream: British Steak and Ale casino's for true Brits; sod these foreigners, coming to these shores with their class and eloquence. 

 

[pinnit2015]

Well, Rizk will continue to operate but they're pretty rubbish now so in effect, none. 

[Fiekie247]

I am sure with BML group leaving they losing alot of customers.

[Blackjax]

I just feel bad for people who used to gamble as a hobby. U know the ones who deposit 50-100 quid a month. I hope they dont end up on shady sites.

[pinnit2015]

Was never a fan of Betsson etc - solid sites no doubt but didn't really have anything that made them stick out - Casinoeuro is probably the best of their sites. 

Uk seemingly wasn't that big a market for them - only 3 or so % so that probably helped make the decision: why risk the wrath of a regulator for that? You wouldn't. 

[pinnit2015]

Winningroom as well.

Be surprised if Redbet/Mr Green went though - WR was just Redbet 2.