Bonus buy games with feature

[Blackjax]

Lets just say I have a "friend". He deposited 50€ and got €50 as bonus

 He started playing white rabbit and he started getting those coins which reduce the value of bonus feature. After a while his balance got 0 and the value of bonus buy of 1€ feature is now 18.60. which was initially 100. Now if my "friend" makes a deposit and claims the bonus will it be considered bonus abuse?

[pinnit2015]

If it's bonus banned, yes. If they notice - sometimes they won't, especially if you make a few deposits, play some different games in between.

Essentially, you've used bonus funds on a banned game to gain an advantage that otherwise you wouldn't have had - really not worth it.

You might think the winnings from a fresh deposit are unrelated, but they're not - merely a continuation of bonus abuse in the casino's eyes. 

[Blackjax]

Thanks Gandalf

[pinnit2015]

They'd probably invoke a generic term such as :

You must not engage in any activity which is intended to take unfair advantage of a Bonus, including by carrying out any Prohibited Act (as defined in section 7 of the GTCs (Improper Use))

Bit generic but, as casino's can't lay out all the circumstances or examples, pretty fair tbh. 

[Blackjax]

Well Betfair allows me to grind lil devil while being on bonus balance and when i had 3 hearts remaining i made raw deposit and finished the super bonus. Didnt pay much.

Even Betzest casino allows lil devil on bonus. 

I am looking for someone who has been in trouble because of this bonus grind on bonus balance and low feature buy.

[pinnit2015]

Different casinos have different restricted/banned bonus games so, while Betfair might allow it, Redbet etc won't.

If they're not on their restricted games list there's obviously no problem but, if they are there, may well be one. Easy Peasy. 

[pinnit2015]

I remember playing a banned game with still 500 quid left so what i did (knowing they'd take it all off me) was playing Viking Runecraft/Sweet Alchemy  etc on relatively high stakes, filling them up as far as i could, zero'ing the balance and then coming back with a cash deposit a week later to play, roughly, a tenner and then getting the built up monies. They approved the w/d but one of my mates, different casino, did the same and they had it denied. Kinda depends how good their systems are at interrogating game play/staff looking for outliers etc. 

[ValDes]

23 hours ago, Blackjax said:

Lets just say I have a "friend". He deposited 50€ and got €50 as bonus

 He started playing white rabbit and he started getting those coins which reduce the value of bonus feature. After a while his balance got 0 and the value of bonus buy of 1€ feature is now 18.60. which was initially 100. Now if my "friend" makes a deposit and claims the bonus will it be considered bonus abuse?

Hmm, interesting situation.  

Two options thou: 

- IF you mean buying the feature at the remaining 18.60 price, yes, that would be a violation of max bet rule as 99.9% of the operators impose 5 USD/EUR/GBP max bet while wagering with bonus funds;

- IF you mean keep playing with a fresh deposit (and probably bonus either) until the feature gets to 0.00, no, that won't be a violation of any of the common bonus rules, not to mention that the majority of the common operators will never even spot your friend grinded some/most of the feature cost while wagering with previous bonus. That's why you will see White Rabbit, Lil Devil, etc etc listed a restricted game while bonus wagering... 

[Dave Morrison]

On 10/4/2020 at 1:03 PM, pinnit2015 said:

If it's bonus banned, yes. If they notice - sometimes they won't, especially if you make a few deposits, play some different games in between.

Essentially, you've used bonus funds on a banned game to gain an advantage that otherwise you wouldn't have had - really not worth it.

You might think the winnings from a fresh deposit are unrelated, but they're not - merely a continuation of bonus abuse in the casino's eyes. 

I agree with you!!!