VIP Schemes...

[m8ttslots]

Hi Askgamblers, 

Looking for advice on some VIP schemes, I deposit from between 5-25k GBP per month and I'm struggling to find some decent VIP schemes.

I used to use Betat Casino but they withdrew from the UK, then  Mayfair casino (a nektan brand) and they used to give me quite a bit of match deposits with between 10-20% wagering requirement before they removed that, now they've essentially removed all VIP perks i got other than 10% cashback per week.

I use HelloCasino who give me 10% and a few adhoc bonuses but i'm wondering is there's any advise for a decent VIP Program casino? 

[Fiekie247]

1 hour ago, m8ttslots said:

Hi Askgamblers, 

Looking for advice on some VIP schemes, I deposit from between 5-25k GBP per month and I'm struggling to find some decent VIP schemes.

I used to use BETAT Casino but they withdrew from the UK, then  Mayfair casino (a nektan brand) and they used to give me quite a bit of match deposits with between 10-20% wagering requirement before they removed that, now they've essentially removed all VIP perks i got other than 10% cashback per week.

I use HelloCasino who give me 10% and a few adhoc bonuses but i'm wondering is there's any advise for a decent VIP Program casino? 

If you deposit that much I suggest you look at casinos that give proper cashback on a weekly basis rather.

Not sure about VIP but maybe @pinnit2015 can advise the best where to find VIP at UK casinos.

[pinnit2015]

Firstly, you're probably living on borrowed time re VIP schemes - i can see them A. being binned or B A very intrusive SOW process: the UKGC and Parliamentary Group obviously want them binned - plus, with a 2 quid online cap looking like a possibility.

Regardless: Betat's VIP scheme was good - until, well, won't go into that or end up in a fight with the rep.

Bet Victor used to be good many moons ago - events, random cash drops, 250-500 quid with x5 wagering etc. Not sure what it's like now.

Redbets was good but again, scaled down (see above, probably in anticipation) but they'd give 50 quid a week and the random cash drops/bonus drops with low wagering. But it's not as good as it was.

32 Red's Club Rouge was decent - got birthday cash gifts etc

Cashback wise, the L and L brands are good for that - 10% upon losing deposits which if that's ur thing, may be worth a look. Might be capped at 100 quid a month though. 

Despite their horrific 92% RTP's, Aspire Globals is ok from a distance: you get cash amounts, offers etc but tbh it's not worth the hassle

Novibet - if you wager a lot you could receive quite a few quid each month - you should maybe check them out. 

 

Personally, the Bet Victor one was the best i seen - more to the fact you'd log in and there'd be a random 500 quid put in your account etc: personally, if i was wagering a lot I'd probably go with Novibet for the cash back each month or Redbet BUT no scheme is as good now as it one was. 

 

You do have the big bookies like Ladbrokes etc who will probably give more to you in terms of invites to events etc - suppose it depends what you like

[m8ttslots]

Thanks @pinnit2015, 

I agree gone are the times that they used to be really good. For a long time nektan would give me £1000 1x wager bonuses (without the need for me to deposit to get the bonus, just login meaning to deposit and it was sitting there).

Aspire Global... I used Trada for a long time before they moved to Aspire and then they turned into a bunch of hassle after the change. 

I'll take a look at BetVictor and Novibet & Red Bet

@Fiekie247 - Where i'm currently at gives me 10% back on a weekly basis but no other bonuses really.

[pinnit2015]

12 minutes ago, m8ttslots said:

Thanks @pinnit2015, 

I agree gone are the times that they used to be really good. For a long time nektan would give me £1000 1x wager bonuses (without the need for me to deposit to get the bonus, just login meaning to deposit and it was sitting there).

Aspire Global... I used Trada for a long time before they moved to Aspire and then they turned into a bunch of hassle after the change. 

I'll take a look at Betvictor and Novibet & Red Bet

@Fiekie247 - Where i'm currently at gives me 10% back on a weekly basis but no other bonuses really.

Trada were once the best, post Aspire, just another AG skin - sad

Yeah, despite their low bonus/cash conversion, i didn't mind NEKTAN - the sites were always smooth and they used to through in quite a few offers - you'll have seen that they've been selling off parts of their businesses after some heavy losses, so there's an answer maybe in itself....

A lot of these schemes aren't really public - i got far more at Redbet than they initially said i would, for example. Used to 'guess the slot' on Wednesday and get 50-100 quid just for making one spin on it but they were really good for, even if you just said 'oh this is nonsense', they'd fire you some bonus wash etc with wagering.  Then i fell out with them

[ValDes]

16 hours ago, m8ttslots said:

Hi Askgamblers, 

Looking for advice on some VIP schemes, I deposit from between 5-25k GBP per month and I'm struggling to find some decent VIP schemes.

I used to use BETAT Casino but they withdrew from the UK, then  Mayfair casino (a nektan brand) and they used to give me quite a bit of match deposits with between 10-20% wagering requirement before they removed that, now they've essentially removed all VIP perks i got other than 10% cashback per week.

I use HelloCasino who give me 10% and a few adhoc bonuses but i'm wondering is there's any advise for a decent VIP Program casino? 

Hey there @m8ttslots  

Have already contacted our Account Team and they are searching a suitable offer/s for a VIP player like you.

As soon as they come back with suggestions you will be notified immediately. 

Stay tuned.  

[m8ttslots]

On 7/31/2020 at 8:34 AM, ValDes said:

Hey there @m8ttslots  

Have already contacted our Account Team and they are searching a suitable offer/s for a VIP player like you.

As soon as they come back with suggestions you will be notified immediately. 

Stay tuned.  

Thank-you, I look forward to the email.

This is the kind of thing I mean about nektan going down hill... I used to get match bonuses for £1000 etc several times a week, they haven't sent me a bonus in weeks now and I get this...

https://i.imgur.com/cvWLix4.png (wouldn't let me attach image directly)

[Flatzem]

4 hours ago, m8ttslots said:

Thank-you, I look forward to the email.

This is the kind of thing I mean about nektan going down hill... I used to get match bonuses for £1000 etc several times a week, they haven't sent me a bonus in weeks now and I get this...

https://i.imgur.com/cvWLix4.png (wouldn't let me attach image directly)

do you mainly play slots or table games or a mix?

UPDATE: I just realized your name has slots in it, that would say you are mainly a slots player. But if say slots have a 4% house edge and you stake a 1 million per month on them, then are you looking at around a 40K loss per month on average. by end of the year thats a 480K loss.

[m8ttslots]

On 8/3/2020 at 6:42 PM, Flatzem said:

do you mainly play slots or table games or a mix?

 

Mainly table games, well live casino blackjack.

[m8ttslots]

On 8/3/2020 at 6:42 PM, Flatzem said:

UPDATE: I just realized your name has slots in it, that would say you are mainly a slots player. But if say slots have a 4% house edge and you stake a 1 million per month on them, then are you looking at around a 40K loss per month on average. by end of the year thats a 480K loss.

I like your theory on losses...

[ValDes]

Wow, must admit your own ''theory version'' looks simply staggering!  

Always a pleasure seeing a fellow gambler whose stats end up with ''Net Deposits in minus''! 

[pinnit2015]

3 hours ago, m8ttslots said:

I like your theory on losses...

That's some might fine depositing mate - out of curiosity, with such levels have u been hit with many Responsible Gambling etc requests for income/bank statements etc

[m8ttslots]

On 8/5/2020 at 7:19 PM, pinnit2015 said:

That's some might fine depositing mate - out of curiosity, with such levels have u been hit with many Responsible Gambling etc requests for income/bank statements etc

Yeah, i normally just shot off any information they need, my payslips and bank statements. I don't think any of the requests have ever been unreasonable and generally due to my level of play my verifications are near instant or at worst.a few hours. I predominantly play in land casino's so i've been subject to this both online and in casino's. 

On 8/5/2020 at 5:32 PM, ValDes said:

Wow, must admit your own ''theory version'' looks simply staggering!  

Always a pleasure seeing a fellow gambler whose stats end up with ''Net Deposits in minus''! 

Well some of us have to be in profit right? If i'm honest the majority of my profit comes from crazy sessions.... I managed to turn a deposit £250 (played a single hand of BJ then doubled up until i was playing £2000 per hand)  into £25k a few months ago 

[imanorange]

The best VIP schemes I have encountered are at Dafabet but I am not sure they are available for UK players. It certainly wouldn't hurt to try. 

They give daily and weekly cash bonuses with only 10x betting requirement (sometimes nothing or 5x) plus you get cash points which can be converted daily. Their website is split up into categories whereby you have a main "Wallet" and transfer funds to the casino, poker, lotto or sports betting areas. For somebody that plays blackjack live, they have tables with additional cashback bonuses.

On top of all that, they have a lot of promotions (you must opt in to some of them) that give you extra daily cash bonuses, reload bonuses and random prizes.

To qualify for their gold tiered level, you must wager I believe $100,000 USA total in one month which is easily obtainable with say $10,000 in deposits over a month. Gold level accelerates the cash points by 20% so you can literally get cashback twice a day and anytime you wish. 

Plus they have a VIP customer support facility that irons out any issues you might have, which are few. Highly recommended and I wish more casinos would do this for players who are loyal and spend a bit more than some. In any case, good look and impressive numbers mate. Cheers!

[pinnit2015]

UK wise the mainstream bookies probably have VIP schemes that you'll never hear of unless you are one or know one. Still reckon the Sportsbook players are probably the ones that get the true VIP treatment - the random 20k lays on single games etc. It must chalk up. 

Like bonus's, they're on their way out though - all casino's are levelling out now, very little in them (good ones) bar VIP/Offers - *****, even White Hat Gaming are processing withdrawals instantly. now. 

Remember my birthdays about 10 plus years ago whereby you could be pretty certain you'd wake up to various offers, cash drops etc - sailed into the sunset and not returning unfortunately. 

Casino's, weirdly, have a strange relationship with players - the churn is so high, they don't care  -all about the first deposits through the door. 

Moving forward, the model that L and L have is probably what will level out - a weekly cashback , few offers during the week and that's it.

[m8ttslots]

On 8/19/2020 at 11:25 PM, pinnit2015 said:

UK wise the mainstream bookies probably have VIP schemes that you'll never hear of unless you are one or know one. Still reckon the Sportsbook players are probably the ones that get the true VIP treatment - the random 20k lays on single games etc. It must chalk up. 

 

So I don't play in Bookies anymore but I used to be a big FOBT blackjackplayer around 5 year's ago and bookies totally do have a VIP schemes. The manager of a few bookies would message me weekly personally with match deposit bonuses etc for the FOBT machines, Put £1k in and get £500 in bonus credit and I have to bet at-least £1.5k to withdraw it. 

 

On 8/19/2020 at 11:25 PM, pinnit2015 said:

White Hat Gaming are processing withdrawals instantly. now

I like that WHG are processing so fast, but it won't beat Genting Bet IMO, instantly approved and I can go collect cash from my local casino <5 minute walk away.

Though I did withdraw 23k last night and they asked for 30 minutes to prepare the cash (seems fair to me)

 

[Flatzem]

5 hours ago, m8ttslots said:

So I don't play in Bookies anymore but I used to be a big FOBT blackjackplayer around 5 year's ago and bookies totally do have a VIP schemes. The manager of a few bookies would message me weekly personally with match deposit bonuses etc for the FOBT machines, Put £1k in and get £500 in bonus credit and I have to bet at-least £1.5k to withdraw it. 

 

I like that WHG are processing so fast, but it won't beat Genting Bet IMO, instantly approved and I can go collect cash from my local casino <5 minute walk away.

Though I did withdraw 23k last night and they asked for 30 minutes to prepare the cash (seems fair to me)

 

so you're making truckloads of money from blackjack and they are just fine keeping you as their customer? why aren't they saying to you that you are too good and you can go play some other game? I've read about cases where people won 1000 quid at online live dealer blackjack and get banned and accused of card counting and yet here you are taking tens of thousands from the bookies on a weekly basis and they turn a blind eye, what is going on? what world is this...

[pinnit2015]

On 8/22/2020 at 7:19 AM, m8ttslots said:

So I don't play in Bookies anymore but I used to be a big FOBT blackjackplayer around 5 year's ago and bookies totally do have a VIP schemes. The manager of a few bookies would message me weekly personally with match deposit bonuses etc for the FOBT machines, Put £1k in and get £500 in bonus credit and I have to bet at-least £1.5k to withdraw it. 

 

I like that WHG are processing so fast, but it won't beat Genting Bet IMO, instantly approved and I can go collect cash from my local casino <5 minute walk away.

Though I did withdraw 23k last night and they asked for 30 minutes to prepare the cash (seems fair to me)

 

Yeah, that's the 'proper' VIP schemes you hear about - only really had it at Bet Victor: Silverstone invite, paid and put up in hotel and few horse racing derby's with a grand betting money etc - way back in 2006/7. Days long gone now - some big wins, but some massive losses. 

[m8ttslots]

On 8/23/2020 at 10:37 AM, pinnit2015 said:

Yeah, that's the 'proper' VIP schemes you hear about - only really had it at Bet Victor: Silverstone invite, paid and put up in hotel and few horse racing derby's with a grand betting money etc - way back in 2006/7. Days long gone now - some big wins, but some massive losses. 

I've had trips to malta, a cruse, trips to cricket, football all paid by casino's, i mean i'm sitting in bed at the Genting hotel right now in a penthouse suite which is paid for all week on behalf of the hotel...

On 8/22/2020 at 12:57 PM, Flatzem said:

so you're making truckloads of money from Blackjack and they are just fine keeping you as their customer? why aren't they saying to you that you are too good and you can go play some other game? I've read about cases where people won 1000 quid at online live dealer blackjack and get banned and accused of card counting and yet here you are taking tens of thousands from the bookies on a weekly basis and they turn a blind eye, what is going on? what world is this...

I don't think any legitimate casino is going to ban a high roller player for getting lucky? 

[Flatzem]

1 hour ago, m8ttslots said:

I've had trips to malta, a cruse, trips to cricket, football all paid by casino's, i mean i'm sitting in bed at the Genting hotel right now in a penthouse suite which is paid for all week on behalf of the hotel...

I don't think any legitimate casino is going to ban a high roller player for getting lucky? 

what's your average bet size on blackjack? and lowest bet size? do you play side bets?

[m8ttslots]

On 8/24/2020 at 12:05 PM, Flatzem said:

what's your average bet size on Blackjack? and lowest bet size? do you play side bets?

£250 - £2,500 - no side bets

[Fiekie247]

3 hours ago, m8ttslots said:

£250 - £2,500 - no side bets

You can send 250 pounds my side, and Ill take my chances on slots. One bet for you is 500 spins for me atleast.