DOA1 & DOA2 discussion

[Flatzem]

thread for any discussions about DOA1 or DOA2.

 

recently was playing a short session, session #3 YTD, (one batch of 25 spins), first 4 spins all dead, then spin #5 gives me an almost wild line on line 6 but reel 4 had a whisky glass instead of the wild. if the Wild was top of reel 4 then the spin would have paid 183.3xBet (when other wins added to the wild line) instead the spin paid 22.78xBet. then spin #6 the game delivers another win cause of 4OAK boots for a 7.78xBet.. then spin #7 delivers a win of 2.4xBet 3OAK boots and 3OAK aces.. at this point the RTP for this short session was at 471.43% (up 26x bet) and this is where the game decided, to get COOOOOOLD.... for the next 18 spins it went like this.

dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, 0.22xBet, dead, dead, 0.55xBet, dead, dead, dead, 0.44xBet, dead, dead, dead......... so for the last 18 spins it gave RTP 6.79% (drop of 16.78x bet).

question for those of you that have played DOA1, how many base game wild lines have you had, (on flash or html5), how rare are the base game wild lines. when it comes to wild lines or 5 scatters , I have read that some people have had to wait hundreds of thousands of spins to get their first free spins wild line but after that they get them more often.

 

[Afi4wins]

1 hour ago, Flatzem said:

thread for any discussions about DOA1 or DOA2.

 

recently was playing a short session, session #3 YTD, (one batch of 25 spins), first 4 spins all dead, then Spin #5 gives me an almost wild line on line 6 but reel 4 had a whisky glass instead of the wild. if the Wild was top of reel 4 then the spin would have paid 183.3xBet (when other wins added to the wild line) instead the spin paid 22.78xBet. then spin #6 the game delivers another win cause of 4OAK boots for a 7.78xBet.. then spin #7 delivers a win of 2.4xBet 3OAK boots and 3OAK aces.. at this point the RTP for this short session was at 471.43% (up 26x bet) and this is where the game decided, to get COOOOOOLD.... for the next 18 spins it went like this.

dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, 0.22xBet, dead, dead, 0.55xBet, dead, dead, dead, 0.44xBet, dead, dead, dead......... so for the last 18 spins it gave RTP 6.79% (drop of 16.78x bet).

question for those of you that have played DOA1, how many base game wild lines have you had, (on flash or html5), how rare are the base game wild lines. when it comes to wild lines or 5 scatters , I have read that some people have had to wait hundreds of thousands of spins to get their first free spins wild line but after that they get them more often.

 

I only got ONCE of 5 Wilds in the base game, but several times during the free spins...so it is RARE to get 5 Wilds in the base game...5 scatters are slightly easier to get, to me at least.

DOA2 has a bigger max win potential, but I still prefer DOA as it is easier to trigger the free spins. Damn hard to get on DOA2!

[Flatzem]

was going to have another session of DOA1 but the site has removed all NetEnt games, w.t.f. Hope this is temporary. Here one day gone the next.

 

[cocopop3011]

23 hours ago, Flatzem said:

thread for any discussions about DOA1 or DOA2.

 

recently was playing a short session, session #3 YTD, (one batch of 25 spins), first 4 spins all dead, then Spin #5 gives me an almost wild line on line 6 but reel 4 had a whisky glass instead of the wild. if the Wild was top of reel 4 then the spin would have paid 183.3xBet (when other wins added to the wild line) instead the spin paid 22.78xBet. then spin #6 the game delivers another win cause of 4OAK boots for a 7.78xBet.. then spin #7 delivers a win of 2.4xBet 3OAK boots and 3OAK aces.. at this point the RTP for this short session was at 471.43% (up 26x bet) and this is where the game decided, to get COOOOOOLD.... for the next 18 spins it went like this.

dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, dead, 0.22xBet, dead, dead, 0.55xBet, dead, dead, dead, 0.44xBet, dead, dead, dead......... so for the last 18 spins it gave RTP 6.79% (drop of 16.78x bet).

question for those of you that have played DOA1, how many base game wild lines have you had, (on flash or html5), how rare are the base game wild lines. when it comes to wild lines or 5 scatters , I have read that some people have had to wait hundreds of thousands of spins to get their first free spins wild line but after that they get them more often.

 

Bbeen playing DOA1 for about 7/8 years I think and I have NEVER had a wild line.

[Flatzem]

decided to give DOA1 another session 25 spins done on it ended up with RTP 79.11% , took a few minutes break before going back for another little session and this happened...

Got the feature on spin #14 and paid 802.89xBet......

the feature went like this: spin #1: dead, spin #2: dead, spin #3: dead (wild appears on bottom of reel 4), spin #4: dead, spin #5: dead, spin #6: wild appears on middle of reel 1 and bottom of reel 2 thus connecting for 4OAK Aces and 3OAK Acese and 3OAK Jacks, spin #7:  wild lands on bottom of reel 3! thus creating a win of 4OAK WILDs, spin #8: whiskey cup bottom of reel 1 and holstergun middle of reel 5... spin #9: star on middle of reel 5 creating a 5OAK stars, spin #10: star on middle of reel 5 creating a 5OAK stars win plus several other wins with Jacks and Queens, spin #11: boots on middle of reel 5 and wild on top of reel 4 plus 4OAK queens, spin #12: last spin just a King lands on middle of reel 5 and creates other smaller wins from queens and tens..... NO WILDLINE but so close.... thats twice in the last two features that needed just one more wild to get the 5 extra spins, previous feature which paid 178.67xBet (needed a wild on reel 1) and now this feature paid 802.89xBet and needed bloody billy on reel 5..... more sessions to come.

[Flatzem]

another session put into DOA1, first 3 batches went RTP 51.56%,  RTP 159.56%, RTP 28.4%, and then on 8th spin of batch #4 it finally gave a feature but it only paid 11.56xBet.... thus the interrupted 4th batch is RTP 186.11%. best base game win was during batch #2 (22.2xBet)(5OAK whiskey glasses)

the feature went Dead, Dead (wild lands on middle of reel 5). Dead (wild lands on bottom of reel 5), dead, small wins (wild lands on top of reel 2), dead, dead, dead (wild lands on bottom of reel 4), small win, small win, dead, small win...

started batch #6 and on 1st spin of it triggered a feature that paid 15.1xBet (dead, dead, dead (wild on middle of reel 5), dead, dead, 3OAK jacks, small win (wild lands on top of reel 1), dead, small win (wild lands on middle of reel 1, small win, small win, small wins (wild lands top of reel 2 and bottom of reel 5). the interrupted 6th batch is RTP 1511%

gave it 4 more batches RTP 68.44%, RTP 73.3%, RTP 41.77%, RTP 28.89% and they were no good, and double scatters became rare.

overall the entire session was 209 spins, RTP 76.56%, loss of 49xBet... should have left it earlier (such as at end of batch 7 when down only 10xBet.

HI/LO was +10.7xBet (sp#33), -49xBet (sp#209), best base game win was during batch #2 (22.2xBet)(5OAK whiskey glasses) on spin #28 of the session.

must leave it earlier when it gets cold next time! had I left after the first feature of the sesssion (83 spins) then would only be a loss of 8.2xBet, if left after the 2nd feature of the session would be a loss of 2.1xBet (109 spins)

some of the DOA1 YTD stats on it so far are; avg feature xBet: 252, avg # of spins to trigger feature: 87, total features YTD: 4, total spins YTD: 347.  YTD RTP: 358.18%

anyone else playing this game lately?

[cocopop3011]

6 hours ago, Flatzem said:

another session put into DOA1, first 3 batches went RTP 51.56%,  RTP 159.56%, RTP 28.4%, and then on 8th Spin of batch #4 it finally gave a feature but it only paid 11.56xBet.... thus the interrupted 4th batch is RTP 186.11%. best base game win was during batch #2 (22.2xBet)(5OAK whiskey glasses)

the feature went Dead, Dead (wild lands on middle of reel 5). Dead (wild lands on bottom of reel 5), dead, small wins (wild lands on top of reel 2), dead, dead, dead (wild lands on bottom of reel 4), small win, small win, dead, small win...

started batch #6 and on 1st spin of it triggered a feature that paid 15.1xBet (dead, dead, dead (wild on middle of reel 5), dead, dead, 3OAK jacks, small win (wild lands on top of reel 1), dead, small win (wild lands on middle of reel 1, small win, small win, small wins (wild lands top of reel 2 and bottom of reel 5). the interrupted 6th batch is RTP 1511%

gave it 4 more batches RTP 68.44%, RTP 73.3%, RTP 41.77%, RTP 28.89% and they were no good, and double scatters became rare.

overall the entire session was 209 spins, RTP 76.56%, loss of 49xBet... should have left it earlier (such as at end of batch 7 when down only 10xBet.

HI/LO was +10.7xBet (sp#33), -49xBet (sp#209), best base game win was during batch #2 (22.2xBet)(5OAK whiskey glasses) on spin #28 of the session.

must leave it earlier when it gets cold next time! had I left after the first feature of the sesssion (83 spins) then would only be a loss of 8.2xBet, if left after the 2nd feature of the session would be a loss of 2.1xBet (109 spins)

some of the DOA1 YTD stats on it so far are; avg feature xBet: 252, avg # of spins to trigger feature: 87, total features YTD: 4, total spins YTD: 347.  YTD RTP: 358.18%

anyone else playing this game lately?

I really think you need to invest some serious time into DOA1 if you want to get those wild lines.  You'll probably already know the kuck @ValDes has had on this game when it comes to wild lines, but Ii know for sure how much he invested into this game. 

Even though  I have played this game I've never reallt stuck with this same game in a single gaming session for hours because I do get bored of it. For me it's always been a game I have just gone in and out of. Good luck though, hoping to see some wild lines off you in the future.

[Flatzem]

2 hours ago, cocopop3011 said:

I really think you need to invest some serious time into DOA1 if you want to get those wild lines.  You'll probably already know the kuck @ValDes has had on this game when it comes to wild lines, but Ii know for sure how much he invested into this game. 

Even though  I have played this game I've never really stuck with this same game in a single gaming session for hours because I do get bored of it. For me it's always been a game I have just gone in and out of. Good luck though, hoping to see some wild lines off you in the future.

something I read recently: "DOA1 has a 160 spin bonus average, and something like 1/165 bonuses that gives a wildline. So 25-30k spins for a wildline maybe."

Of course you don't need to do so many spins to get it if you get lucky. Some people have real luck on DOA1 and seem to hit those wild lines regularly but you gotta get that first one to get the ball rolling.

And as for getting bored with it you could just set it on auto play and do something else until it hits the feature.

While no wild lines or 5OAK yet,  so far this year had 4 features, feature #1 paid 178.67xBet (needed a wild on reel 1 to get extra spins) and feature #2 paid 802.89xBet (needed a wild on reel 5 to get the extra spins or if it landed on middle of reel 5 then it would have completed a wild line, had 5 spins to get the wild on reel 5 but it never came sooooo close, if it landed on spin 8 then feature would have paid at least 3333xBet thats for last 10 spins of the feature. but considering that 3 wilds on bottom of reels 2 , 3 and 4 would also give an additional 4OAK or more win on every spin this would have paid close to 4000xBet).  On second last spin of the feature it put a wild on middle of reel 4..... if only it put it on middle of 5th.....

Feature summary this year: 178.67xBet, 802.89xBet, 15.1xBet, 11.56xBet, 15.1xBet... best base game win 22.78xBet...  meanwhile with Bonanza this year done 7640 spins and best feature was 323.95xBet & bets base win 60xBet.

going to go watch youtube videos of DOA1 wild lines see if it helps with getting it for me in my sessions.

[Afi4wins]

2 hours ago, Flatzem said:

something I read recently: "DOA1 has a 160 Spin bonus average, and something like 1/165 bonuses that gives a wildline. So 25-30k spins for a wildline maybe."

Of course you don't need to do so many spins to get it if you get lucky. Some people have real luck on DOA1 and seem to hit those wild lines regularly but you gotta get that first one to get the ball rolling.

And as for getting bored with it you could just set it on auto play and do something else until it hits the feature.

While no wild lines or 5OAK yet,  so far this year had 4 features, feature #1 paid 178.67xBet (needed a wild on reel 1 to get extra spins) and feature #2 paid 802.89xBet (needed a wild on reel 5 to get the extra spins or if it landed on middle of reel 5 then it would have completed a wild line, had 5 spins to get the wild on reel 5 but it never came sooooo close, if it landed on spin 8 then feature would have paid at least 3333xBet thats for last 10 spins of the feature. but considering that 3 wilds on bottom of reels 2 , 3 and 4 would also give an additional 4OAK or more win on every spin this would have paid close to 4000xBet).  On second last spin of the feature it put a wild on middle of reel 4..... if only it put it on middle of 5th.....

Feature summary this year: 178.67xBet, 802.89xBet, 15.1xBet, 11.56xBet, 15.1xBet... best base game win 22.78xBet...  meanwhile with Bonanza this year done 7640 spins and best feature was 323.95xBet & bets base win 60xBet.

going to go watch youtube videos of DOA1 wild lines see if it helps with getting it for me in my sessions.

Honestly speaking mate, no amount of watching those youtube videos is gonna get you closer to getting a Wildline win, but since there's plenty of time, no harm in watching though.

From my own experiences, those Wildline wins would occur anytime and unexpectedly. From after seemingly endless useless spins, to coming in the next free spins game!But from what I do know, no Wildline win would come if you get a 5oak win of any one the picture symbols, and neither would it come after a good win of 150x and above. There may be exceptions of course, but I have yet to hear of one. 

[Flatzem]

7 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

Honestly speaking mate, no amount of watching those youtube videos is gonna get you closer to getting a Wildline win, but since there's plenty of time, no harm in watching though.

From my own experiences, those Wildline wins would occur anytime and unexpectedly. From after seemingly endless useless spins, to coming in the next free spins game!But from what I do know, no Wildline win would come if you get a 5oak win of any one the picture symbols, and neither would it come after a good win of 150x and above. There may be exceptions of course, but I have yet to hear of one. 

something super rare that happened to someone I know of was getting 5 scatters and then getting a wild line during those free spins.

 

[Flatzem]

Checking out that mega slot wins threads and the screenies of DOA1 wins people were putting up there back in 2015 (many screenies are no longer available cause the hosting sites removed them which is why people should use AG to host their images)(many variations of bet sizes from 9c up to 2.25$ (Valdes? what was up with that unusually high bet size there? huge win on it too! wonder what the story was with that, your many other DOA1 wins are on much lower bet size, 90c or less),  and also you said in Sep 2015 this: "Same game, same casino, third wild line in less than 2 days!!! Unbelievable!!!"

and Afi you had a screenie there too on 1.35e for a 779x while not a wild line still a big win on DOA1. Seems like the entire forum has had a wild line except for me , cocopop and Johnnybones. To be fair I have probably played less than 1% of the amount of spins any of you lot have.

So as I said reading through that thread and checking the screenies while playing a session of DOA1 , batch #1 went ok RTP 125%, still rare the double scatters are being these are the keys to getting features and when they are rare then features are not showing up how can they when you need at least 2 scatters to get to that 3rd. I count the number of double scatters and if you see how many showed up yesterday before the first feature of the session then there were actually 9 double scatters before the 83rd spin trigger of feature. and then after that we had 4 double scatters before the trigger on 26th spin, but since then it has been rare with only 5 double scatters in 150 spins ! do you see that ratio. It's an indicator. anyway the 2nd batch of 25 spins of todays session has been brutal RTP 28.89% . Which included 11 dead spins to start the batch and if you include the last spin of previous batch then that is 12 dead spins on the trot and if we count the losing spins then that was actually 18 losing spins in a row. (16 of them dead) so this is what the slot is capable but then this happened on spin #1 of batch #3..... 50AK stars on line 2 + 3OAK cups on line 9 for a payout of 112.2xBet.... out of nowhere this slot just delivered my best base game win ever on DOA1. when I saw the first 4 reels I looked away and then looked back later to see reel 5 had the wild making it 5OAK stars.

 

[Afi4wins]

First of all Flatzem mate, I just want to confirm that when you say 'stars' you are referring to the Sheriff's Badges, right, the top paying regular symbol?

Secondly, DOA played and paid quite differently in those early days! I myself had gotten 3 times of 5 Scatters within 2 months (or maybe 3 months), all at Casumo Casino! Later on, I got 2 times of the 5 Scatters at another casino (Dunder Casino if not mistaken), so yes, I did get several times of 5 Scatters over that short period of time, maybe within 2 years or so, but probably must have done no less than 500,000 spins on DOA by then. Our Guru Valdes must have done closer to a million spins by that same time, hehehe. Wildline wins were a bit more harder to get, but I did get some of them.

Thirdly, the early days of any new game have always seemed to be the best! From then on, it became harder and harder to get 5 Scatters and/or Wildline wins. Nonetheless, DOA is still one of the best games around to play and win! 

[Afi4wins]

My best win on DOA...2 Wildlines during the free spins...won in Feb 2019.

 

[Flatzem]

1 hour ago, Afi4wins said:

First of all Flatzem mate, I just want to confirm that when you say 'stars' you are referring to the Sheriff's Badges, right, the top paying regular symbol?

Secondly, DOA played and paid quite differently in those early days! I myself had gotten 3 times of 5 Scatters within 2 months (or maybe 3 months), all at Casumo Casino! Later on, I got 2 times of the 5 Scatters at another casino (Dunder Casino if not mistaken), so yes, I did get several times of 5 Scatters over that short period of time, maybe within 2 years or so, but probably must have done no less than 500,000 spins on DOA by then. Our Guru Valdes must have done closer to a million spins by that same time, hehehe. Wildline wins were a bit more harder to get, but I did get some of them.

Thirdly, the early days of any new game have always seemed to be the best! From then on, it became harder and harder to get 5 Scatters and/or Wildline wins. Nonetheless, DOA is still one of the best games around to play and win! 

yes the sheriff's badges (6 pointed star)

[Flatzem]

another session on DOA1, got free spins on spin #59 of the session, it was spin 210 since previous free spins, and this feature only paid 10.56xBet meh.

Best base game win was only 8.3xBet. Only 3 times did a double scatter occur in this session and during the 210 spins it occurred 8 times.

[Flatzem]

another DOA1 session, got free spins on spin #109, it was 109 spins since previous free spins, and this feature paid better than usual a 41.5xBet) but it was cruel and this is why.

spin #1 it puts a WILD on top of reel 1 and a WILD bottom of reel 2

spin #2 it puts a WILD on bottom of reel 5. so at this point its looking good for the 5 extra spins right?

spin #4 it puts a WILD on top of reel 4...... at this point it was looking amazing for the 5 extra spins.... 8 spins to go and needing just 1 wild anywhere on reel 3 where is Jesse?

spin #11 it puts a WILD on top of reel 2... 

but the 3rd reel wild never came..

best base game win during the session was 11.1xBet (5OAK aces)

 

 

[Flatzem]

after 780 spins the DOA1 feature drought ended, the feature paid only 11.56xBet (2 Jesse's appeared, one top of the reel and one bottom of the reel).

Look at the last 6 features on DOA1.... 11.56x, 15.1x, 10.56x, 41.56x, 11.78x, 11.56x.....what a game.

[pinnit2015]

That's the way DOA, more-so DOA2, plays though - not a slot, unlike Pragmatics in the mood, whereby you'll make a withdrawal after 2-3 close 200-500x wins. Only way IMO to play it is to leave a balance near the end of a normal slot session and 'hope' that's going to be the one for the double wild line etc

It's why i don't mind the feature buy in this game (well 2) because the base games pointless, you're simply in it for the bonus so you may as well get there as soon as. 

Are you expecting 5 consecutive features to have a few 200-250x's in them on DOA? Aint gonna happen

[Flatzem]

2 hours ago, pinnit2015 said:

That's the way DOA, more-so DOA2, plays though - not a slot, unlike Pragmatics in the mood, whereby you'll make a withdrawal after 2-3 close 200-500x wins. Only way IMO to play it is to leave a balance near the end of a normal slot session and 'hope' that's going to be the one for the double wild line etc

It's why i don't mind the feature buy in this game (well 2) because the base games pointless, you're simply in it for the bonus so you may as well get there as soon as. 

Are you expecting 5 consecutive features to have a few 200-250x's in them on DOA? Aint gonna happen

NetEnt should make it possible to do feature buys for DOA1..

[Fiekie247]

gave DOA 2 - 600 spins, triggered bonus one and paid 58x, came out with 40% less of my entire balance.

DOA 2- 460 spins - No Bonus and busted

Was playing them on 2 different casinos as the same at $0.18 and $0.27 stakes. Made deposit of $20 at one casino and deposit of $30 at another.

Too long to bonus just to pay *****, so next time Ill go with that train increasing multiplier.

[Flatzem]

gave DOA 2 , 1000 spins (playmoney mode)...

6 bonuses  (all of them High Moon Saloon)

1: 5.1x

2: 86.1x (here I needed a wild on reel 1 to give me 5 extra spins with about 6 spins left, there were 6 wilds on the screen)... was calm about it but was in conflict between wanting to see the wild land on reel 1 or not but would I be so calm in real money mode? nope...

3: 4.2x (3 wilds on Reel 5)

4: 6.9x (1 wild on Reel 5)

5:, 6.6x (2 wilds on Reel 4)

6: 44.2x (1 wild on Reel 1 + 2 wilds on Reel 2 + 1 wild on Reel 4)

 

avg 25.5x.... 167 spins per bonus. (least spins was 18, most spins was 321)

at end of the 1000 spins, balance was down 85x, RTP 91.49%.

 

previous time I played DOA 2 in real money mode tho, it took 268 spins for the bonus and paid 10.3x (High Moon Saloon), finished down -112x,  RTP 58.21%