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Keep the money, they cannot do anything at all even if they wanted to. They have to take you to court and prove beyond all doubt that you KNEW that this money was not yours to keep. And courts cost money and i doubt they will do that fore a mere 10K. Also the fact that you tried to give back the money to them but have not been able to would prove that you atleast made an effort. Maybe they havent even noticed. I had a simular situation happen to me but for a less amount of 1700NOK(170 euros) I ordered something online trough a huge scandinavian online vendor. I got an electronical invoice by mail from a third party to pay the goods, this arrived prior to me getting the package. So when i recieved the package i had already paid fore it. But they sent me something totally different from what i ordered and there was another invoice fore the goods in the package.. After allot of back and forth sending it in return and reaciving the good i originally shoud have gotten they managed to send me yet another invoice of 170 euros. I was told to contact the third party billing company to delete these two invoices. After they completley messed up they deleted ALL the invoices even the one i had paid and was supposed to pay. I tried telling them 3 times you are not supposed to refund these 170 euros, because i am supposed to pay them fore the goods i recived. They still insisted that the vendor had told them to return the money to me. I just said ***** it and sent them my bank account number. Story ended with me getting the stuff i ordered fore free. Never heard anything more from them. Most likley the same situation here... They have no clue, the money is lost in the system.

Yes it was a joke.

Maybe someone who had the same never ending losing streak at betat as i didd Hope it affects them as much as betat affected my credit card.

Well, its now been confirmed that Thunderkick has lowered their RTP on several of their games... Bird on a wire and so on.. A unibet rep confirmed this on casinomeister. But Thunderkick wont answer the forum lol.. If they have done it and do it, are you people seriously so naive to think that Net ent has not done so? Its obvious.. The RTP on the NetEnt games are not the same as it used to be. Dead or alive is not the same game anymore.. Just look at screenshots?? Where are they???? All i see is wins on 0.09 cents... Where are the 0.45 and 0.90 wins?? Where??? Where are a 1000x win on the new pyramid slot witch apparantly can yeild over 36000x bet. Where is the screenshots??? Even a full screen of the top symbols on any of the "low variance" games like Dracula, Neon staxx and so where are the screenshots? People stopp being so naiv, and stopp being stupid like i am. Just quitt, trust me the games are not going to get any better. I predicted this would happen... I told my friends a couple of years back: Just wait and they will make it more and more difficult to win on the games, and soon they are going to release games where there really is no chance to win anything.. And i guess i was right.. Its not just NetEnt. Its all of them.. Its all the same bullshit.. Trust me there is no such thing as an RNG.. Its just a computer that picks a lottery ticket when you hit spin. And if NetEnt is taking royalties of the money the casino earns from their games, then they have all the reason in the world to be lowering their payouts. Like all companies NetEnt needs to grow and make more money. The only way they can make more money is to add more players or if the players loose more. Go figure....

Yes she is,but she has quitt. She havent played since that complaint.

I guess that was my last deposit tough, my girlfriend/wife has put her foot down. Told me to stopp gambling all together because she is afraid it will ruin my life. So now i guess i have an even better reason to quit. I have played conciderably less the past month. Hope i can quitt fore good now.

Actually i deposited 54 euros yesterday at maxxxcasino. Got a 100% bonus that i didd not want, but they could not remove trough chat so i just started to play... Dead or alive was dead as usual.. But then a miracle happened i had a few wins on that new game Koi something. Had about 300 balance, went to Pyramide quest and to my suprise got a 300x bet win on a 2 euro bet. Went back to that koi game betting with some rather high bets of 2.40 and 3.20 and acutally got my balance up to 1600 euros. Made wagering with 1350 left but then my account was reduced to 1000 euros, as apparently the bonus terms only allow a max win of 1000 euros.................... So i accidently hit spin for 3 euros so i cahsed out 997 euros. Kinda sucks about that bonus term, if that was not the case i would have gon to DOA with that 350 that they took away. But 997 euros is a nice return for a 54 euro deposit But also it kinda proves my point. When i started to win all the games paid... Every game i played gave features all the time and ok- decent wins. Several 100-200x bet wins. This is the thing with the new net ent games.. You cannot win one huge lump like on DOA. You have to play with very high bets and hope you get some decent wins. Because on 2-3 euros stake a 100-200x stake win is allot of money. But im convinced if i had not taken the bonus i would not have won anything...

No, i dont belive this is the case. Ofcourse you are supposed to lose, but not this way, in 5 years i have not ever seen anything like this last year.

Well, i deposit now and then and tried 100 yesterday and 100 today. Its the same everytime i can never get my balance above my deposit amount. Its just totally weird.. Dead or alive i must have had close to 2000 bonus rounds and no wildline now. Its just sick.... Its not normal at all. And i cannot belive that people can defend this? These stats alone show that something is not right.

Yes.. I wassent even aware that all those sites where connected untill i read a thread on casinomeister about someone that got denied their winnings. And some casino rep explained that if that is the case then you are entitled to get all the deposits you made since the self exclusion. Im just glad i didd not win something huge and then they most likley would have denied my winnings.

Well, i can now confirm that they have refunded me all my deposits. WOW! Im just glad i didd not win anything huge as they would not have paid me. Imagine winning they Mega fortune jackpot and gotten told "sorry, were giving you 5k instead" lol.. Woke up and bought me two xbox one elite controllers and a PS4

Also now i cannot open any account with any company that has that logo at the bottom of the page lol.. So this is really helpfull to make me stopp gambling. Have not played in 2 weeks now :-)

No, i read oN casinomeister about another player who got his winnings confiscated but he then submittef a complaint and got refunded all his deposits since he excluded. So i just tought i would submitt a complaint, since ive been playing on allot of these casinos and i was not even aware of the fact that they could confiscate winnings. Or that everymatrix was a company that owned all these sites. I just tought it was some kind of platform provider not a lisense holder. Casino dragonara has been very helpfull and forwarded my info to EM. I also found their live chat hidden on the bottom of their website so injave been in touch with them. I was allitle anxious since i diddent really understand where to turn or who to contact since the mails says this and that casino so and so much refunded. But all these accounts are locked. But it seams like they are going to refund me. That would be really helpfull since 5k is allot of money and i can pay of my creditcards

I had a complaint with the MGA about everymatrix and 2 days ago i got a mail from them saying everymatrix is going to refund all my deposits since i excluded in 2012 - minus the withdrawals ive made during this periode. According to the mail this amounts to over 5000 euros,(allot of money) I was told to contact the operator or to send my banking info to the mga. I forwarded my info to the mga and EM but got no responce. I contact the casinos witch one forwarded it to everymatrix and another one told me they had nothing to do with the matter and that i should contact EM. Its been two days and i have not heard anything from anyone. I find this a bit odd. Has anyone ever been refunded by EM and how long didd it take before they responded/sent the payment?

All games have gone sour the last year. I dont know what is going on. My theory is that NetEnt has the whole Egaming market cornered and are basicly the king of the hill. They have allot of customers and allot of people are hooked. And how do you get people hooked? Well let them win some and then gradually lower the payout. This has been done on pysical slots here in norway. They install the maschine it pays 96% and after a few months or years they lower it down to the minimum that is legal. Im certain this is what NetEnt are doing. "We dont know", "Should not accuse" and so on.. But hey, why are EVERYONE complaining about NetEnt now? Where are the huge DOA hits? Not only here but in all forums!! I see endless threads about people losing, never standing a chance. 100 deposits and above lost without a cashout.. Never ahead, and so on. It cannot be a coincident. Something has changed and im going to vote with my wallet and just stay away from these shady casinos.