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Perhaps you should write directly to the depositing provider and inform them that there's a loophole in the depositing transaction of their ewallet, card system or whatever. Better than going to various casinos. Maybe you can get better rewards from them too, like maybe cash vouchers, hehehe.

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As far as I know, only online Asian-based casinos do that, simply because local banks (including bank credit cards) are prohibited from supporting any gambling houses, so these casinos have to divert payments to any other bank accounts belonging to the casino or its nominees. Is this legit? Well, as far as the banks are concerned (not that they are not aware), the accounts are accepting payments from clients for purchases and has nothing to do at all with gambling (which is not true of course). This would not happen if all local banks were allowed to accept transactions to and from casinos.

Hope you'll have a nice and safe journey back to Croatia soon. Nothing feels better than to be at home (homeland), right? Well, it's always a cruel world out there, injustice abound everywhere, and what is 'just' to us may be 'absurd' to others. Yes, casinos may reward those who report bugs, loopholes or what's wrong at their casinos, but like I said earlier, their rewards always tend to be some free spins or bonus money (with wagering attached, ). As far as I know, only big-spenders high-level VIPs can get cash rewards, simply because casinos need them to stay on and be satisfied!

Definitely withdrawal-rejected issues for the OP, or perhaps KYC approval procedures...but generally shouting out "HELP! I CAN"T GET MY MONEY!"

That is exactly the point...the absurdity of rewarding with free spins or bonus money to someone who could save the casino tons of money! Let's face the hard truth. Casinos are purely money businesses. Nothing can be given for free. Ledgers must be balanced. Every dollar and cent accounted for. When nothing has been lost, nothing can be given for free. If the casino had indeed faced unresolved missing money, then such a resolution can be worth money, with a reward of a small percentage of the total amount lost. Don't forget though...only a small percentage can ever be given...NEVER any huge amounts! Between person and money, money always take precedence! Patching up a loophole is not a major issue to any casino. They could stop that depositing method for as long as it requires to get it resolved and corrected. There are many other depositing methods that their customers can use. Stopping one or two depositing methods don't hurt their business that much, maybe just like being pinched for a short while. So, how much money can a pinch be worth??? Know what I mean? Also, there may be specific insurances to cover such unforeseen losses, not only involving the casinos but the depositing providers too, so both parties are covered. Perhaps then, just my personal opinion, the best authority to inform of such a loop-hole is the Insurance Company itself, because they are the ones who could end up losing money! And insurance companies may be able to find a legal way of awarding any rewards for disclosures of any damaging loop-holes. Their check-and-balance are way different from those of casinos! Yeah, it's like a Catch 22 situation isn't it? You report a loop-hole that could save tons of money, but you only get peanuts in return as a reward. You use the loop-hole and make tons of money yourself, sooner or later the authorities would find out, and you end up in jail. Which of the two would criminally inclined persons would chose to do? No rewards for guessing the right answer!

Knowing how casinos tend to do their businesses, by you informing them of a possible loop hole in the deposit system, they may thank you in the end (after being convinced that it can indeed happen). The good casinos may reward you with some bonus free spins or some bonus money, but most may not even be bothered to offer any reward! Give you free hard cash as a reward? Most unlikely, if you ask me. Why? Simply because they have not lost any money from the loop hole, as far as they know, that is, so they wouldn't give away real cash for nothing...they'd faced the problem of how to balance their ledgers!

I'm struggling to understand the problem too. Let's start at the very beginning again. You made a deposit at Tangiers casino and claim a deposit bonus...what was the deposit bonus offer? You played your deposit money + the bonus money and finally won 2050 EUR, is this correct? You then made a withdrawal claim for 2025 EUR, leaving behind 25 EUR to play later on, but the casino paid you only 100 EUR, is this correct? Later on, you then played that 25 EUR, made another winning of 190 EUR, then try to withdraw it too, but the casino rejected it, saying that the balance of 25 EUR and the 190 EUR winnings all came from the same initial deposit and bonus, is this correct? If all the above is correct, then the casino has not done anything wrong. The maximum allowed withdrawal amount from the bonus may have been only 100 EUR, which they paid you, and all the other winnings and balance would be removed (zero balance left). The second winnings of 190 EUR was derived from the 25 EUR that you left behind in your account to continue playing later on, but that 25 EUR was actually a portion of your total winnings of 2050 EUR, so that 25 EUR was still considered as part of the total winnings from the bonus money, of which only 100 EUR can be withdrawn. Your second winning of 190 EUR is therefore not eligible for another payment, because only one win of 100 EUR can be paid from the same deposit+bonus money. Hope that clears everything.

Win big lose BIGGER is indeed very true for gambling, no matter where you play it.

Okay, let me be the first to get this ball rolling. For me, my slotting frequency did not change, it has remained at about the same. Lockdown or no lockdown, my money was still going down the drain, but because of not much money, that stopped me from going insane.

I guess the answer may be simple mate...not many gamblers are using EcoPayz as are using Neteller and Skrill. I think.

Hi there Joner, welcome to Askgamblers forum. Casinoland replied to you informing that you had breached the bonus terms and therefore had all your winnings confiscated. Whilst playing with the bonus active, you played the 3 mentioned games, got the free spins feature game activated, BUT you did not play them. Instead, you quit the game and left the free spins feature game to be played at a later stage, after the bonus wagering was no longer active (removed). You did this on the 3 games. When there was no more bonus wagering active, you made a new deposit, without taking any new bonus, then played off the free spins from the 3 games, thereby making a nice easy win. These was confirmed by the software provider, as mentioned in the reply to you. This is clearly an abuse of the bonus, and a breach of the bonus terms, so no winnings can ever be paid out to you. Or is it that you did not do the above, but the casino and provider is accusing you of doing it?

I, for one, would prefer not to wear a face mask if possible, or I would wear it without covering my nose...I find it very hard to breathe properly! I'm really surprised that divorce cases actually went up...it should be pregnancy instead! Well, more Malaysians have gotten pregnant by now, but they sure ain't complaining!

I don't use EcoPayz, so I have no idea on it. As for Neteller and Skrill...well, maybe there's been way too many cases of fraud and/or abuse, so some casinos may prefer to avoid that risk? Don't know for sure though.

OMG! That's not good news at all. Yesterday I saw a photo (online) of lots and lots of unopened shades and empty chairs at a beach in Bulgaria...then it struck me that the situation there may have gotten worse! There's been no further deaths in Malaysia...thank god...but still getting single-digit daily new cases.

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I think the OP meant going over to Australia, to migrate, to visit, don't know which...don't know playing what either!

If you think seeing a list of players winning over $20,000 is questionable, then you see should the daily list of names in Asian-based casinos...many are winning over $100,000, only a few winning under $10,000...and the names keep changing too! True or not, I never bothered to question myself, simply because the norm is that Asians are big gamblers, and the rich always play with huge bets daily! Well, yes, I'm an Asian too, but I'm on the exact opposite end of the scale...I bet with the minimum possible smallest bets!

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