BitStarz Confiscated 4.5BTC

[cocopop3011]

5 minutes ago, Rhdjeezy said:

https://youtu.be/qSRovoRM5ck
https://youtu.be/2lgvUefD3U8
 

Both you and the casino have been in the wrong in this case - two wrongs do not make a right. Just explain to us why you think you should have your winnings? Because you know full well and admitted right from the start that you did not read the rules. 

[pinnit2015]

14 hours ago, copyyy said:

@RhdjeezyOkay, it's just absurd that you selected "Russia" as your country, used "Ukranian" VPN and still managed to withdraw. Did they not ask you to go through KYC?
Just funny that they can "confiscate" your winnings if you are from the US. Meanwhile, nothing happens to them letting someone who is from the US  deposit multiple times on their casino and withdraw too. Glad that you managed to be in the profit as you deposited your own money and gambled, don't care that you were forbidden to do so tbh, they should do a better job at keeping USA players away.

About your withdraw of 4.5BTC, it's just not gonna happen.

Agree with this - as much as i think Olle's s decent rep, i think the response about why USA isn't geo blocked was weak to say the least. Unless it's one of those 'we don't accept USA etc, nudge nudge wink wink'

That's now two people here who say they're from the USA and can play (which tbh i don't care about given the US's attitude but not if it's going to be used against them when it suits ) so it's not particular true to say they don't accept country X. 

Regardless of what the players do regarding VPN's etc, it doesn't sit well that 'you're from a restricted country' can be trotted out as required when it's quite clear they have controls to stop people from the UK from signing up. 

[sanctusx]

Ok first of all the casino should of never taken his deposit to begin with and all the sudden they want to deny his withdrawal? Don't pick and choose.. Secondly sports betting and online gambling has been legalized in the USA but online casinos in the USA is weak compared to sites like nitrogen sports and bitstarz. I have family members in the USA so I travel there alot. Sounds to me like bitstarz knew where he was from let him scaled up in order to take more money from him so then they can block him.  Like I said you guys should of never taken his deposits in the first place and it's stupid for a casino to reject a high roller because eventually he will lose lots of money just saying..... Return his deposits. I don't understsnd the logic of these casinos not accepting usa players they can literally make a million times more business if they do allow them especially now that it's legal. Seriously makes no sense to me. My uncle is a degenerate gambler with lots of money and he lives in the USA. 

[pinnit2015]

12 hours ago, sanctusx said:

Ok first of all the casino should of never taken his deposit to begin with and all the sudden they want to deny his withdrawal? Don't pick and choose.. Secondly sports betting and online gambling has been legalized in the USA but online casinos in the USA is weak compared to sites like nitrogen sports and bitstarz. I have family members in the USA so I travel there alot. Sounds to me like bitstarz knew where he was from Let him scaled up in order to take more money from him so then they can block him.  Like I said you guys should of never taken his deposits in the first place and it's stupid for a casino to reject a high roller because eventually he will lose lots of money just saying..... Return his deposits. I don't understsnd the logic of these casinos not accepting usa players they can literally make a million times more business if they do allow them especially now that it's legal. Seriously makes no sense to me. My uncle is a degenerate gambler with lots of money and he lives in the USA. 

Since when? AFAIK only a handful of states like New Jersey are like this?

Having said that, can't disagree with the rest of the post. As said somewhere before - for countries like the USA/Aussieland, I have no problems with casino's offering services but if they do that they they shouldn't play the 'restricted country card' when it suits. 

[globalgamer]

All I can say is when new to online gaming, it is complicated. Its as if the casinos want you to play no matter where you are,  its quite easy to play even from a restricted country it seems. And if you loose, no harm no foul no complaint all is fine. But if you win, then you are faced with the rules etc etc. Of course there will be no refund of what you lost playing form the prohibited country. But your wins will be cancelled. Unless by oversight (lucky to the poster above) they are paid. Many learn the hard way, it is not clear. In this day and age, people use VPN's to watch TV shows from other countries, its quite common, and is not really viewed as such a big deal by the average human to say you in one place when you are in another. However for casinos, if you do that and win, they will likely find out. But if you do that and loose, most likely nothing will be said or come up. I am not saying this is sinister or intentional, but I suspect its a nice profit source since not completely blocking players from blocked countries (which can be done), and letting them play, creates a money trap. Let them loose, and if they win no need to pay. It really should be changed so players from banned countries can't play. Anyway no way for this to happen, it is what it is. Newbies to online casinos often loose on situations like this. In this case the poster won, lucky him. Most don't, Yes he was wrong, but honestly I get the feeling many casinos intentionally make it easy for everyone to play no matter where they are from, to capture the revenue. Revenue with no risk of payback (unless by mistake). Anyway, not being critical of BitStarz, I play there. I never win much, and never loose much. Pretty typical of most casinos, nothing bad happening that I can see, they seem fair in the end (despite occasional heated moments which can happen at land based casinos also). So I am content with them. It just so happens that in my country I am very limited on which game providers I can play with them, no NET ENT for example, so I am stuck with others such as Endorphinia and Amatic and I don't see to find many posts about big wins on those platforms. Not BitStarz fault, just the nature of the beast. Thats it for my daily rambling. Good luck to all, don't forget social distancing! 

[sanctusx]

On 3/24/2020 at 2:52 AM, pinnit2015 said:

Since when? AFAIK only a handful of states like New Jersey are like this?

Having said that, can't disagree with the rest of the post. As said somewhere before - for countries like the USA/Aussieland, I have no problems with casino's offering services but if they do that they they shouldn't play the 'restricted country card' when it suits. 

No its over 25 states that has legalized it including the big one Nyc and more states are legalizing it as well. Point I'm making is this, these casinos would literally over 1000x their revenue if they accept players from the USA and maintain that relationship. If I was an online casinoI wouldn't care where my players are coming from its not my responsibility it's the casino responsibility. If a player beats me then I wouldn't banned them because I know the house always win people who wins alot usually plays alot and eventually will lose the house always win. There's no need to ban players and refuse withdrawal or do any shady business practices because if your a casino and you don't accept players from tier 1 countries like USA then your ***** your revenue big time!!!!! By the time all states legalizes it all these online casinos will have lots of competition so its best that these online casinos acquired their customers and retains them and if you are a casino and your too broke to pay your high rollers 4.5 btc then you shouldn't be in business at all..... 

[lima1]

Isn't this the main issue that by paying out to the US based player bitstarz would basically  commit a severe crime in the US? And as we know  uncle sam is not joking regarding that stuff