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[jwholland]

@Fiekie247 Still waiting on that response? Please guide me 

[cocopop3011]

20 hours ago, jwholland said:

@Fiekie247 Still waiting on that response? Please guide me 

What was he guiding you on?

[pinnit2015]

38 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said:

What was he guiding you on?

On how to apply for a Dutch licence?

Fiekiealwayswinscasino.com offers such delights such as 85% RTP games, a generous weekly 10% bonus match, 2 free spins on starburst and, wait for it, the ultimate perk - a date with him when the missus is away (he really takes KYC to a new level). Love the tag line on the website - Get Freaky wi Fiekie

And no need for statement of wealth requests - if you're a offering the money, he's a taking it. No questions asked 

[Fiekie247]

On 11/6/2019 at 3:48 AM, jwholland said:

@Fiekie247 Still waiting on that response? Please guide me 

Okay Jwholland - Let get this cleared up... What exactly is the issue here the fact that you unhappy with the reviews on AG? Or the fact that I mentioned you got banned at CM and according to Max - He warned you numerous times to stop posting without supporting facts without, which you blatantly ignored him and he banned you? 

 

PS : Do not take weeks to respond! 

[pinnit2015]

This is a different gripe

Gripe one was Trada and the Dutch Licence, or the lack thereof.

Gripe two (this one) is some of the made up reviews on the selected AG reviews/casinos. 

On the subject of Trada...Aspire Global...noooooo......

[Fiekie247]

16 minutes ago, pinnit2015 said:

This is a different gripe

Gripe one was Trada and the Dutch Licence, or the lack thereof.

Gripe two (this one) is some of the made up reviews on the selected AG reviews/casinos. 

On the subject of Trada...Aspire Global...noooooo......

I am really worried, the game collection will change, which means I can play most of their providers,

Aspire normally has 24 - 48 hours pending periods, not sure if Trada will follow... Given their 6 hours maximum time frame ATM.

Guess we will wait to see

Going live 20 Nov right?

[ValDes]

1 hour ago, pinnit2015 said:

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On the subject of Trada...Aspire Global...noooooo......

 

1 hour ago, Fiekie247 said:

I am really worried, the game collection will change, which means I can Play most of their providers,

Aspire normally has 24 - 48 hours pending periods, not sure if Trada will follow... Given their 6 hours maximum time frame ATM.

Guess we will wait to see

Going live 20 Nov right?

Ouch!  

This one definitely deserves a new forum topic and I'll be grateful if someone starts one. Pretty sure a lot of players would have sth to share about it... 

[catapultaudio]

Yeah this is a bit blatant isn't it! ValDes, what are the consequences for casinos leaving shill reviews such as this on your site?

[jwholland]

On 11/6/2019 at 10:56 PM, cocopop3011 said:

What was he guiding you on?

He was indicating lack of supporting evidence, so I expect him to point out what is missing, so I can add it. 

[jwholland]

On 11/6/2019 at 11:31 PM, pinnit2015 said:

On how to apply for a Dutch licence?

Fiekiealwayswinscasino.com offers such delights such as 85% RTP games, a generous weekly 10% bonus match, 2 free spins on Starburst and, wait for it, the ultimate perk - a date with him when the missus is away (he really takes KYC to a new level). Love the tag line on the website - Get Freaky wi Fiekie

And no need for statement of wealth requests - if you're a offering the money, he's a taking it. No questions asked 

No worries, operations in breach will not be allowed for next 2 years. This includes extended marketing platforms ( 'review sites'), as they clearly do not state conflict of interest for consumer. Trust me things are in motion.

[ValDes]

On 11/8/2019 at 7:12 PM, catapultaudio said:

Yeah this is a bit blatant isn't it! ValDes, what are the consequences for casinos leaving shill reviews such as this on your site?

Depends on the relevant case and violations found... Besides the obvious reputation damage we could and most probably will consider any of the proven manipulation of our Leave-A-Review feature on behalf casino operators in case they apply for being certified in the future.  

[jwholland]

`spinia: 27 reviews at the moment with mean of 8.82, and a SD of 0.5 rating point. Statistically hard to believe, as players post reviews if they are very satisfied or dissatisfied, seems skewed data.. The 'ADR" The Pogg even black list them, and shows 30+ complaints. With 5 only  1 star reviews, you cannot even make 8.82,  even if the other 22 are 10 stars.. This all in context with my starting post.

[ValDes]

44 minutes ago, jwholland said:

`spinia: 27 reviews at the moment with mean of 8.82, and a SD of 0.5 rating point. Statistically hard to believe, as players post reviews if they are very satisfied or dissatisfied, seems skewed data.. The 'ADR" The Pogg even black list them, and shows 30+ complaints. With 5 only  1 star reviews, you cannot even make 8.82,  even if the other 22 are 10 stars.. This all in context with my starting post.

Actually, Spinia's players rating is 9.1 - https://prnt.sc/pva2to. The 8.82 is their AG ranking score which is something different from players ratings. 

The players ranking has been automatically calculated on reviews - 20 reviews with 10 mark, 2 reviews with 9 and 7 mark and single reviews with 1, 6 and 8 marks. Quick math resolves in 9.148 which has been considered and displayed as 9.1 by our system. 

Hope it's all clear now. 

[jwholland]

2 hours ago, ValDes said:

Actually, Spinia's players rating is 9.1 - https://prnt.sc/pva2to. The 8.82 is their AG ranking score which is something different from players ratings. 

The players ranking has been automatically calculated on reviews - 20 reviews with 10 mark, 2 reviews with 9 and 7 mark and single reviews with 1, 6 and 8 marks. Quick math resolves in 9.148 which has been considered and displayed as 9.1 by our system. 

Hope it's all clear now. 

Thank you for clarifying, Sorry for asking Valdes, but do you maybe also have information on reviews that were published, but afterwards removed at request of user?  To be clear, I know most public reviews systems, are  anything but perfect ( due to multiple factors), and I do appreciate the effort shown by you. However, it makes it hard for a player to judge what is correct: ADR blacklists the casino and reports many complaints, while reviews elsewhere are the exact opposite ( 75% + a perfect 10)

[jwholland]

user T1n3rch.. posting multiple reviews on same casino, and all casino have N1 interactive link ( or formal).. come on.. He is even rewarded as trusted reviewer.. 

Take action guys.. this is ludicrous. 

 

[jwholland]

What can I say

[pinnit2015]

Sounds like Elly's quite hot

Might sign up just to check out. 

[jwholland]

Well she might turn out to be a bloke from Belarus, I hope your date works out. 

@pinnit2015But on topic, how do you review this?

[cocopop3011]

1 hour ago, jwholland said:

Well she might turn out to be a bloke from Belarus, I hope your date works out. 

Aha! You do have a sense of humour then 

[pinnit2015]

Bloke from Belarus, Girl from Bosnia, Am not too fussed.

Review in what context? In terms of how I see it?

[ValDes]

20 hours ago, jwholland said:

Thank you for clarifying, Sorry for asking Valdes, but do you maybe also have information on reviews that were published, but afterwards removed at request of user?  To be clear, I know most public reviews systems, are  anything but perfect ( due to multiple factors), and I do appreciate the effort shown by you. However, it makes it hard for a player to judge what is correct: ADR blacklists the casino and reports many complaints, while reviews elsewhere are the exact opposite ( 75% + a perfect 10)

Just spoke with the relevant team and it seems like we don't have many cases where a player would get back to us with requesting removal of their approved review. A dozen or two max per year... 

As for the rest, sorry, not following you? 

[jwholland]

Ok thank you for checking. 

What I'm indicating is the fact that Spina appointed ADR for MGA ( the POGG, have my reservations about them, but they do publish every complaint.), blacks list them, and shows rating that is almost half of the AG review score.. Combined with only 2 complaints against the casino, only minor variation in rating scores ( not a Gaussian curve what you expect), and most importantly: double reviewers by same account, identical reviews by different users ( sole activity on account), accounts that post reviews for N1 related operations only. 

As 'Player driven' review site, this discrepancy in ratings vs ADR and posted screen earlier, should be of great concern.. as it might indicate active manipulation.

thank you 

[jwholland]

@Fiekie247 No he banned me because making a suggestion similar to what the spinia rep did to my account.. Its incredible that you claim lack of providing evidence.. Dutch active law, recent rulings of KSA, vs. terms of the operator, that changed suddenly, while having the same issued date.  Again, please post the entire thing, so people can look at it, I don't mind. 

 

[ValDes]

11 hours ago, jwholland said:

Ok thank you for checking. 

What I'm indicating is the fact that Spina appointed ADR for MGA ( the POGG, have my reservations about them, but they do publish every complaint.), blacks list them, and shows rating that is almost half of the AG review score.. Combined with only 2 complaints against the casino, only minor variation in rating scores ( not a Gaussian curve what you expect), and most importantly: double reviewers by same account, identical reviews by different users ( sole activity on account), accounts that post reviews for N1 related operations only. 

As 'Player driven' review site, this discrepancy in ratings vs ADR and posted screen earlier, should be of great concern.. as it might indicate active manipulation.

thank you 

 

Alright, this whole 'holy crusade' you are up to is really starting to exhaust both my goodwill and patience. I guess the same feeling is being shared by all the other members active here too. 

Let me explain one last time that unlike most/all other sites you have been referring to in your posts, AskGamblers is actually not just giving players the chance to share their thoughts about online casinos but to rate these as well. The result is Players Rating which IS different from the AskGamblers Casino Ranking score. 

Will not waste time commenting differences between AG and other websites ranking scores for the obvious reasons. Feel free to stay with the one which you find provides rankings similar to your own taste and preferences.

I believe we've done everything possible to answer any of your questions so far. Unfortunately (for you), we have better things to do other than keep spinning again and again within the same circle of 'concerns and speculations' you might have.  In other words, this would be my last post here.  

[pinnit2015]

*no comment*