Unlisted Casinos

[catapultaudio]

I'm writing a few casino reviews just now and notice there seems to be quite a few casinos not listed here at the moment.  There's a bunch which are apparently part of the LeoVegas group including 21.co.uk, slotboss, castle jackpot, pink casino etc which I find some complaints about but no actual listing, also Stakers who have been mentioned on the forums but also don't have their own listing. Is it possible to submit/request casinos for adding? My experience with most of these places is mainly positive so I guess it's not as urgent as if they were rogues, but it still seems strange to find so many casino's I have played at which are missing from the directory here. Is there a reason for this? 

[copyyy]

@catapultaudioI noticed this myself for a lot of casinos and slots which  I like to play but have no idea where can I suggest slots to be added.

[catapultaudio]

Perhaps a forum section for unlisted casinos (and slots)  would be useful ? Certainly when it comes to BAD casinos I think its urgent that the information gets out there as quickly as possible.

[copyyy]

@catapultaudioI don't know would forum section for unlisted casinos and slots help especially on the forum because I am sure most of the people visit the website mainly maybe it's just me and I can't find button to suggest new  Casino/Slots the only topic I could find is to suggest review improvements, and any forum suggestions but not sure does that apply to the Casinos section in general probably not.

[pinnit2015]

Funnily Stakers was one i praised early on but then came the 1. SOW request after <2k of deposits, 2. Withdrawal fees and 3. PNG Games at  a fantastic RTP of 91%

1/10 for me, purely cos they pay fast. 

[cocopop3011]

@catapultaudio You can submit casino suggestions HERE  An admin will read it and forward your suggestions. We did used to have a similar thread to suggest games but I'll be damned if I can find it. However, feel free to start a new thread about any game we don't have in our listing and I'll try and get it added for you,

[Fiekie247]

11 hours ago, pinnit2015 said:

Funnily Stakers was one i praised early on but then came the 1. SOW request after <2k of deposits, 2. Withdrawal fees and 3. PNG games at  a fantastic RTP of 91%

1/10 for me, purely cos they pay fast. 

That I can believe...

I remember how Generous Stakers was with all the Garga Hits!

[catapultaudio]

On 7/10/2019 at 6:55 PM, pinnit2015 said:

Funnily Stakers was one i praised early on but then came the 1. SOW request after <2k of deposits, 2. Withdrawal fees and 3. PNG games at  a fantastic RTP of 91%

1/10 for me, purely cos they pay fast. 

Whoaaaa.... PlayNGo Slots can be set as low as 91%??? I feel like I need to spend a whole lot more time around here at the moment. I'm spending more on gaming this year then I have at any other point but because I've got more money in my pocket I'm playing way more casually too, how do I not know things like this?

Anywhere I can read about this?

@cocopop thanks for addressing my query, I should have come back and checked my responses sooner. I'll definitely make a list up of casinos I've registered with from my email that aren't on the site so I can write a little report for each of them.

[cocopop3011]

4 hours ago, catapultaudio said:

Whoaaaa.... PlayNGo slots can be set as low as 91%??? I feel like I need to spend a whole lot more time around here at the moment. I'm spending more on gaming this year then I have at any other point but because I've got more money in my pocket I'm playing way more casually too, how do I not know things like this?

Anywhere I can read about this?

@cocopop thanks for addressing my query, I should have come back and checked my responses sooner. I'll definitely make a list up of casinos I've registered with from my email that aren't on the site so I can write a little report for each of them.

No problem! I had to rejog my memory on this one as it's been a while since we spoke in here  But yeah, don't hesitate to recommend any sites we don't already have. As long as they are fully licensed we can forward the suggestions.

[catapultaudio]

I really want to find out what mechanism PnG uses to alter the RTP of their games, different reel strips would be my guess, but I'm just pondering if theres a chance they use some kind of dodgy algorythm that messes with the randomness too... anybody know?

[pinnit2015]

5 hours ago, catapultaudio said:

I really want to find out what mechanism PnG uses to alter the RTP of their games, different reel strips would be my guess, but I'm just pondering if theres a chance they use some kind of dodgy algorythm that messes with the randomness too... anybody know?

Changing reel strips is one way. As is altering the pay table. You can possibly alter it by making changes to the pool  values it pulls from the RNG, but not sure how PNG do it. 

[ValDes]

9 hours ago, catapultaudio said:

I really want to find out what mechanism PnG uses to alter the RTP of their games, different reel strips would be my guess, but I'm just pondering if theres a chance they use some kind of dodgy algorythm that messes with the randomness too... anybody know?

 

4 hours ago, pinnit2015 said:

Changing reel strips is one way. As is altering the pay table. You can possibly alter it by making changes to the pool  values it pulls from the RNG, but not sure how PNG do it. 

Well, never saw nor read official confirmation of this one, but I guess lower RTP results in all the relevant visual representation changes controlled/generated by the RNG software.

Actually, I don't really see any other possibility here.. At least one allowed/approved by any decent testing agency.   

[pinnit2015]

What’s probably as interesting is where the RTP is shaved off... in theory you could take the 3% off the ‘Mega Wins’ of 3000 plus x etc. In that case, such is the rarity of the hits, you may not see an adverse effect in ‘normal play’ 

Dont know basically; you’d need a software programmer to answer it. Possibly something in the technical specs that the testing labs adhere to. 

[ValDes]

1 hour ago, pinnit2015 said:

What’s probably as interesting is where the RTP is shaved off... in theory you could take the 3% off the ‘Mega Wins’ of 3000 plus x etc. In that case, such is the rarity of the hits, you may not see an adverse effect in ‘normal play’ 

Dont know basically; you’d need a software programmer to answer it. Possibly something in the technical specs that the testing labs adhere to. 

The things is I don't really think software vendors have any control over these mega hits... I mean, they could easily set up some min threshold in terms of RTP to be reached prior their RNG software 'produces' a mega hit (1000x bet or more) but most of the time that would be a completely random event. 

[pinnit2015]

3 hours ago, ValDes said:

The things is I don't really think software vendors have any control over these mega hits... I mean, they could easily set up some min threshold in terms of RTP to be reached prior their RNG software 'produces' a mega hit (1000x bet or more) but most of the time that would be a completely random event. 

I'm just going by what i've heard informally...obviously I don't 'code', or create the unrandom, randomness of slots (controlled randomness) etc. Surely if you can allocate the 96% between free spins, base game, random feature, then you can apply the same to different hit threholds?

Just surmising....maybe what we need is a software rep to come on and allow some curious mind to sit in on the making of a game.

Except Netent - i'd literally die of boredom and be like 'stop with the pointless graphics at the start of every game, it's eating my RAM' 

[pinnit2015]

Actually....Yggdrasil....if not only to find where the RTP actually is cos, having bashed their games, I'm not sure it exists

[ValDes]

Few years ago we had a Thunderkick official rep here who was indeed a great guy with pretty straightforward and open mind and how wasn't afraid to share with forum gangs some insights re creation of slot games. Shame hes no longer active but I'll try to find the topic/s with his revelations.  

[Afi4wins]

7 hours ago, ValDes said:

Few years ago we had a Thunderkick official rep here who was indeed a great guy with pretty straightforward and open mind and how wasn't afraid to share with forum gangs some insights re creation of Slot Games Casino. Shame hes no longer active but I'll try to find the topic/s with his revelations.  

From what that guy told me last year (or two), Thunderkick has a very strict ethic of not revealing anything about their software or games...casino reps have to keep their mouth shut...unfortunately! 

[pinnit2015]

Maybe try Push Gaming and ask why they did Jamming Jars as they did..... - 1754.34 quid wins are common  above 1000 quid, as they are basically a scratch card with a very limited pull.  Even the Jars move exactly the same

[3.14ace]

But are the unlisted casinos secure? I strongly doubt it.

[pinnit2015]

if it's in the LV Group then they will be

[cocopop3011]

16 hours ago, 3.14ace said:

But are the unlisted casinos secure? I strongly doubt it.

Some may be, it might just be that we haven't added them here yet.