Miranda1976 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 So im not sure if it is the right thread in the right topic... if not please let me know Im Miranda, netherlands, long Time Royal panda player. So i know RP is a very popular casino and up until a year ago i cheered them on as well. A lot is good at royal panda, nice games and a good support. I left a medium review because of that, I do however abruptly stopped playing a couple of days ago. And here is why. This is my first online casino, i used to play in real casinos but because of health problems ( physical not mental) i decided to try out an online casino and Royal panda was it. Since for me gambling is always something i did instead of going out. I play with a budget. It means i play for a certain amount, if its gone its gone the computer goes off and if i win something well yay. It goes in my daughters ( themepark, vacation, a.k.a. fun stuff we do savings account) Offcourse i do aim for jackpots, because we all want that) The casino treated me well, there was a problem in the beginning when my deposits werent credited, and i got in touch with the servicedesk and they fixed it. As a bonus eventhough i wasnt a vip they gave me a cashdrop and all was well. So when i became healthy i decided to stay . Most days i lost some days i would win. and besides its fun. after a while i became a silver vip. and when i was on a loosing streak i would occasionally get a cashdrop of 10 or 25 euros. however there was a big discussion about bonus spins in the game Fruit shop dissapearing, there woud be two added according to the game but it ended without the spins. I contacted them again and it was a weeklong discussion where they claimed i got them, and i made a video where it happened schreenshots and all, still they would not believe me and said it was my phone. I got so tired of the discussion i let it go. and started playing somewhere else for a while ( where this never happened) I did however miss my old and trusted casino. So i came back. Since i am a software developer i did notice a lot of errors, but hey i could be a critic everytime i nicely reported one just a copy and paste reaction.. okay.. never mind. I was a silver VIP for a long time, and now i recently reached gold status, wich means i have gambled a lot there.. a real big pile of hard earned cash as i mentioned in my review i bluntly asked them.. so what are the benefits of me being gold and having a lot of mileage? sort of jokingly, but also a bit serious. I read a lot of things about cashbacks, extra cashdrops and no one at Royal Panda has come with such an offer... hummmmmm is it because i dont blow 10000 a week? I got a 30 euro cashdrop after that email and was told "we have extra special offers for gold members just wait and see. allright.... Thats where i left the review.. and immediatly got called by royal panda , they explained the benefits , more free spins, wich i dont use, because i really dislike the wagering on those, and they know that) and furthermore nothing special. yes another 50 euro cashdrop. offcourse they immediatly posted under my review, because they sure are on top of negative reviews, The thing with these cashdrops is, they hardly give you a win, they are gone faster than you can blink. So you deposit again, and that is probably why they give cashdrops...until i reached my quota. and then i logged off again. its the same with the cash bonusses you can buy, they somehow are determined to dissapear really really quick. I hate to be ungratefull but the loyal panda vip program really is a bummer. Im sure they mean well, but bonusses are very low, and very few, yeah free spins and bonusses with wagering is what they spam you with. So this weekend i asked Again, what can you offer me as a gold member? Nothing was the reply, so i stopped playing. yesterday i received another 30 spins, wich i asked them to remove, because they know for a year now i dont want free spins, and they cancelled all the bonusses with wagering requirements because i asked them to. it annoys me, that i had to log in to ask them to remove the bonus, Im considering unibet, advice of a friend. But does anyone else here feel that the minute you become vip you are no longer a valuable player? Responses take longer, cashdrops are a lot fewer and when they call you or email, they are annoyed. and in a hurry. and answer half the questions. I dont need to be treated as a princess, but id like to be taken seriously.. i guess i need a new hobby, is armknitting still a thing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinnit2015 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Firstly, I don't know about Unibet's program, but I'd be surprised if it's any good. They're a notoriously stingy casino who I've had one bonus in about 12 months from..... I was a VIP at RP and I didn't mind it that much - it was OK...but near the end i noticed that the perks were drying up a tad. Surely becoming a VIP is the opposite? Faster customer service etc? To be honest i think there are very few good VIP schemes about. Betat used to have an excellent one. Bet Victors was the best for me - hotel, Formula 1 trip, Horseracing and 250 quid spending money etc - it really was that good - probably isn't now right enough. Have a look out for ones that offer decent cashback for losses or profit bonus's - if you're putting a lot through them then that'll be half decent. I'm also in Mr Green's - it's rubbish. I get a reload bonus once a month and that's the height of theirs so your 50 quid cashdrops aren't probably that bad Miranda1976 and cocopop3011 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda1976 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 nope customer service gets words when you are a vip. and yes the perks really dry up. Im going to do a search for cashback casinos, thanks for the tip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda1976 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 also the lp points? you can buy an iphone for 270.000 lp points...... you earn a lp point for every 10 euros deposited or gambled ehm... so i buy an iphone for 2700000,00 euros? thars a bit steep right? or maybe a beanie for just 3500 lp points? its a bargain really??? lol. allright armknitting it is volendam101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinnit2015 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Make sure you check their wagering with it - Betat has mine at 5x. Used to like it cos when you bust out it gave you a good chance to get some of it back :-) Aside from that i like ones that have a reasonable points system that you can convert as well. Ps - if customer service gets worse at any casino the more you play then there must be something wrong with the scheme and I’d be ditching it :-p Sadly it’s hard to tell who has the best one...details on the sites are always a tad light as to what to expect. Check out Grosvenor, if you can play there - a few of my pals seem to like it. Miranda1976 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda1976 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 I will thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volendam101 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Hi there Miranda. Dont take this gambling business too serious. Vip, bonuses, free spins, cash back , etc etc. All there to make you gamble and lose more money,nothing else. But speaking about hobbies, armknitting pfff I suggest pietinthok . ValDes and Miranda1976 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda1976 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Hi there Miranda. Dont take this gambling business too serious. Vip, bonuses, free spins, cash back , etc etc. All there to make you gamble and lose more money,nothing else. But speaking about hobbies, armknitting pfff I suggest pietinthok . dat is vast iets volendams:) ik ga voor netflix denk ik voorlopig haha volendam101 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 dat is vast iets volendams:) ik ga voor netflix denk ik voorlopig haha Hi Miranda, please stick to English in this part of the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volendam101 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 My fault Coco. I started dutch language. Sorry. cocopop3011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda1976 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 Hi Miranda, please stick to English in this part of the forum Im sorry! cocopop3011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Hi Miranda and thanks for sharing your VIP story with us In a situation like yours I would simply wish the operator goodbye and start looking for a new one which would hopefully appreciate better my deposit loyalty. Totally agree with @volendam101 though, you should never take these so called loyalty schemes and programs so seriously, after all it takes LOSSES to get there and not wins, right. Miranda1976 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda1976 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 Hi Miranda and thanks for sharing your VIP story with us In a situation like yours I would simply wish the operator goodbye and start looking for a new one which would hopefully appreciate better my deposit loyalty. Totally agree with @volendam101 though, you should never take these so called loyalty schemes and programs so seriously, after all it takes LOSSES to get there and not wins, right. Thank you for your input, and considering the amount of spam i got from this casino today, im out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Im sorry! No drama! It was just a polite reminder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingraj Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Hello Miranda1976 hope your well, I too am a customer at royal panda and unibet. If your looking for straight cash back I would recommend tradacasino. I play mostly there for slots. For every £70 you wager on slots you get £2 cash back instantly added to your balance. Its the same as a 35x wager effect. They also do a weekly loyalty every Thursday for depositing twice here's how it works. Say you deposit on Friday £10 than you do a second deposit £10 before the following Thursday, you'll receive a free £5 worth of spins or more (I've received £25 once) with 20x wager only no deposit code by email on Thursday. I know you stated you don't like wagering so maybe the cashback earn as you play will be more to your liking. I hope this helps Miranda1976. drogerman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drogerman Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Betat really was the best. Im a lowroller but i played there often. I remember when once i accidentally breached bonus terms and bet $18 instead of 18 cents (!?!?) on DoA and live chat was, its cool dont worry about it.The other time they made a mess up of their Achievements rewards (they had money rewards for IR and Thunderstruck) and deleted my rewards alltogether, i was missing quite a few but they actually credited me with $250 i would get for clearing rewards, with something like 3x wagering.Mind you that was before Betat had new owners, but new betat isnt that bad either but i dont think they are that good anymore. Oh and they had weekly free spins offers (like really good offers, 100 free spins at a time for deposits of $20-50) with 10x wagering and i dont think even you would find that excessive Unibet while it doesnt really offer any VIP stuff per se, its still a good place to play because they have tons of tournaments with cash rewards.Tbh you sound like mid-highroller and in that case you are probably better off playing at place like Trada, which offers permanent cashback (well almost permanent, they dont really like it when you use cashback code with every single deposit either). edit: just noticed Kingraj post, and he also suggested Trada, and atm i really believe its one of top 5 casinos out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 So that’s what you get for completing all the achivements? $250? To this day I still don’t know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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