des24 Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 Hi people, I am new here and normally i am not a person who complain because you cant win and lose when you wil gamble. Only i cant believe that play and go is real. Play and go is really the worst dead spins software i have ever seen. Games like moon princes , golden ticket , energoonz and reactoonz must be forbidden. Golden ticket and energoonz is so been manipulated that whatever you wil do its almost impossible to win big. Always on a bet from 1 euro max win 300 euro and after that gone with only dead spins. No come back forget it. If you hit the whole board what is almost impossible than youre very lucky but otherweis 300 euro max win and game over. Reactoonz there is something really wrong. When i look at streamers what in my eyes is so fake as hel they get the most biggest wins ever. On a bet from 2 euro 2500 euro and more. One guy on his first spin on a bet from 5 euro 5750 euro. My best win is 125 times my deposit and that in 200 times . So many dead spins over and over again. Unbelieveble that play and go is still running with their *****. The funny part if you complain to the casino you get the message we only rent the software. If you complain by play and go you get the message we are only a provider so complain by the casino. This is really a big joke and more and more i get the feeling that on line gambling is a joke. Last thing what i want to ask am i the only one who always lose if i reverse a withdraw. That when my balance wil be for example 1000 euro and stop playing and start the next day that it wil be always gone and never it wil be more. Fiekie247 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageGuy Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 as long as you're playing in a reputable casino the games are all verified and tested, but you have to remember that the theoretical RTP is based over a a milllion to 100,000,0000 spins.. Play'n go are very temperamental. Reactoons can hit like it robbed a bank and has to ditch the money fast or it can eat like it hasn't been fed in years. from one of its better days. Above all else, remember that the house always wins, if you spin long enough on the same slot, it will turn, it will bite and it won't stop until you run away crying foul. I used to find that I often lost when I reversed withdrawals, but in retrospect, it was more likely that I was already in the wrong mindset to be spinning if I was reversing winnings.. To fix that problem, I stopped playing at sites that had a pending period.. or at the very least if they take 3-4hrs to cashout have a lock function to avoid compulsively wasting what you've worked so hard to get. Mindset, mindset, mindset.. if the deck is already rigged against you, you want to only play when you are in a good headspace.. it never ends well otherwise. ValDes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiekie247 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I love Reactoonz - Moon Princess and Rise of Olympus is known for dead spins but the quickest way to get a quick x400 - X600 win during free spins. In the beginning Reactoonz was empty spins - But of lately the base game hit often most of the time even though its equal to your bet size or a bit more. Have great play time these days. ValDes and Afi4wins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinnit2015 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I downloaded my stats across all providers and near the bottom is PNG - at the top is Novomatic (what an underrated provider and deceptively good one). It's why i don't really play PNG - i find their games hard to determine if they are low paying guff or just extremely HV. Reactoonz is a decent game - it's just extremely HV. I went a few days 2k up from a 20 deposit by getting the purples several times on relatively low bets. But then you go months with nothing. As for streamers, i wouldn't pay too much attention to them. They play half the time with such massive bonus boosts (if affiliated) that they are operating EV+ - ask yourself why some of these guys can afford to play Book of Dead on 100 quid spins but look like they live in their mothers basement? There are genuine ones out there (the ones who do 40p bets for example ) but i wouldn't pay much heed to most. ValDes and Fiekie247 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Oh come on, it's juts a streak of bad luck and we all know how long it could last! As a huge fan of Play'N Go slots myself, I could say from personal experience that all my favorites such as Golden Ticket, Multifruit81, Moon Princess, etc are extremely cruel with me over the last 5-6 months. The good news is that I'm still way ahead considering the previous 12 months for example where multiple x1000 wins have been hit... Balance is the key word, and finding the right balance on a high variance slot game (which most of the Play'N Go slots obviously are) is a task of great difficulty and almost impossible to find IMHO. @des24, in times of desperation, nothing would encourage the gambling spirit as much as browsing the winner screenshot threads. Show time - let's see your winner screenshots! Mega slot wins - oh yes, it's possible! And hey, it's all real there, unlike the fairy-tales you have been getting from some/most of these streamers lately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Everyone should realise that this life of ours is simply full of lies, deceits and deceptions...so much so that no one can ever be certain of anything anymore! Whenever there's a probable truth, there'll definitely be a probable deceit/deception to it! Online slot games are no exception of course...with plenty of streamers providing plenty of deceiving 'wins'...just to attract ignorant gamers to play the games! Young streamers playing at ridiculously high bets of $50 - over $100 a spin??? Only billionaires can afford to waste money on such huge bets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Hi people, I am new here and normally i am not a person who complain because you cant win and lose when you wil gamble. Only i cant believe that play and go is real. Play and go is really the worst dead spins software i have ever seen. Games like moon princes , golden ticket , energoonz and reactoonz must be forbidden. Golden ticket and energoonz is so been manipulated that whatever you wil do its almost impossible to win big. Always on a bet from 1 euro max win 300 euro and after that gone with only dead spins. No come back forget it. If you hit the whole board what is almost impossible than youre very lucky but otherweis 300 euro max win and game over. Reactoonz there is something really wrong. When i look at streamers what in my eyes is so fake as hel they get the most biggest wins ever. On a bet from 2 euro 2500 euro and more. One guy on his first spin on a bet from 5 euro 5750 euro. My best win is 125 times my deposit and that in 200 times . So many dead spins over and over again. Unbelieveble that play and go is still running with their *****. The funny part if you complain to the casino you get the message we only rent the software. If you complain by play and go you get the message we are only a provider so complain by the casino. This is really a big joke and more and more i get the feeling that on line gambling is a joke. Last thing what i want to ask am i the only one who always lose if i reverse a withdraw. That when my balance wil be for example 1000 euro and stop playing and start the next day that it wil be always gone and never it wil be more. Des24...nope...PlaynGo isn't the worst where dead spins are concerned! You should try playing Bonanza, Danger High Voltage, or Donuts by BTG...you may get thousands of empty worthless spins before it gives you a Free Spins game! Also, betting on big bets is a sure way of suicide nowadays...the very low paytables...the artificial intelligence avoiding/skipping big payouts until you drop down your bet size...things like that...and all these are for real nowadays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des24 Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Its so funny that people here on forum and casinos are always told me the same bad luck. Yesterday start again with golden ticket with a balance from 750 euro and play on a bet from 1 euro. After losing thousands on this game the last few weeks i cant believe this ***** anymore. Highest price 48 euro and whole my balance gone in 90 minutes. Completly nothing and sometimes in 100 spins i get 10 euro totally. Book of dead is better to called book of *****. World record in dead spins. Play and go the biggest < snip > organisation ever. Finally i understand after losing so much money. Thunderkick and play and go made in Sweden. Both of these providers are the biggest < snip > ever. Pink elephants thousands of dead spins and low bonus rounds . Six penauts on a bet from 2 euro totally 85 euro what a joke. I am done with these two providers and i hope that once i wil read that these providers are < snip > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Post edited. Please stick to the Forum Rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinnit2015 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Looks like someone needs a break from the slots... The games you’ve mentioned are all pretty HV. Iv been getting beat up on Push Gamings. But I know when I play it what to expect. Some days I’m 10 spins in and getting 1500x plus. Some days it’s 10000 spins and not one above 100x. They are what they are. Personally I don’t like thunder kick - apart from Wild Heist. Innovative? Possibly. Potential? Not really worth it. Try a lower variance provider - pains me to say it but quickspin have produced a few decent Medium Variance games like Emerald Islands that can keep your balance going and offer a realistic chance of 1000x plus. It really is important that you understand volatility - it affects your bets, your expectations but more importantly - your sanity. ValDes and frankel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des24 Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 Best news ever after my that my children were born. In 12 casinos at this moment its no longer possible to play the software play and go. I am so happy and i hope that all casinos wil do that for dutch players. Than the rest of the world so that play and ***** go wil no longer excist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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