[Edited:] Pragmatic Play payouts

[hkidude23]

Hi,

 

Just wanted to warn everybody regarding games made by pragmatic play.

 

First of all, there are some really bad black market casinos operating these games but also, the winning propabilities are frankly apalling.

 

Stupid or not, I have now in several different casinos played their games and usually 700 EUR+ cold streak. With a bet of 5 EUR the usual "win" is 2 EUR.

 

You simply cannot win with their games if you are not A) super lucky or wealthy enough to take the hit before (perhaps) getting something back.

 

I seriously wonder why games like this can even exist. It's not anymore casino gaming, something completely else. When the reels are packed with 50 000 symbols and the winning chances are close to national lottery, then the bet of 5 EUR is ridiculous.

 

You all make up your own minds but be warned.

[Afi4wins]

Hi,

 

Just wanted to warn everybody regarding games made by pragmatic play.

 

First of all, there are some really bad black market casinos operating these games but also, the winning propabilities are frankly apalling.

 

Stupid or not, I have now in several different casinos played their games and usually 700 EUR+ cold streak. With a bet of 5 EUR the usual "win" is 2 EUR.

 

You simply cannot win with their games if you are not A) super lucky or wealthy enough to take the hit before (perhaps) getting something back.

 

I seriously wonder why games like this can even exist. It's not anymore casino gaming, something completely else. When the reels are packed with 50 000 symbols and the winning chances are close to national lottery, then the bet of 5 EUR is ridiculous.

 

You all make up your own minds but be warned.

 

Firstly, welcome to Askgamblers forum Hkidude. 

 

Yes, there are indeed some casinos out there that are using fake games...so these casinos should be avoided at all costs in the first place. To be safe, always refer to casino reviews here at Askgamblers first. 

 

Nowadays, regardless of which provider games, playing with big bets tend to end disastrously in most cases...simply because the current trend of games are simply money eaters and dishing out very low payouts! Big betters would definitely feel the bites faster than very small betters...but of course, there are many players out there who simply cannot or would not play with small bets! Hahaha. 

 

If you're thinking only Pragmatic Play games are that bad...sorry to say, but you're wrong! Literally all games are like that nowadays! 

[pinnit2015]

Bit confused... are you saying fake games or casinos who have PP are rogue? If you’re betting 5 Euro a spin I can imagine losing 700 pretty easily. I’m personally not a fan of their games (aside from a 1000 x win on wolf gold). They did have a chequered past a number of years ago I think but now I just see them as a typical quickspin/red tiger game - low paying dross but nothing insidious.

 

If you’re able to bet 5 Euro a spin take it to an old MG/PNG game - more likely to see a return.

[Dbm811]

Unfortunately we cant write a review about bad a experience from one of the casinos, i encountered a low paying casino and wanted to add my insights on this, but it was removed so the reviews here on askgamblers are not worth much im afraid.

[cocopop3011]

Unfortunately we cant write a review about bad a experience from one of the casinos, i encountered a low paying casino and wanted to add my insights on this, but it was removed so the reviews here on askgamblers are not worth much im afraid.

 

Actually you couldn't be further from the truth! If you actually bother to browse our casino reviews you'll see tons of negative ones, I can even grab you some screenshots if you like!!

 

If your review was removed it wasn't becasuse it was negative it would have been because you didn't stick to the guidelines, so I'd suggest you give these another read before throwing your accusations around!

[LeoDubbed]

Pragmatic Play is not my favorite gaming provider simply their payouts are too low compared to other giants providers such as Play'N Go, GameArt etc. I only play their games when a casino offers me free spins on a game from that particular provider.

[Dbm811]

Actually you couldn't be further from the truth! If you actually bother to browse our casino reviews you'll see tons of negative ones, I can even grab you some screenshots if you like!!

 

If your review was removed it wasn't becasuse it was negative it would have been because you didn't stick to the guidelines, so I'd suggest you give these another read before throwing your accusations around!

You couldent be more wrong the guidelines is there to protect the casinoes from bad reviews, insted of warning about bad casinoes.

[cocopop3011]

You couldent be more wrong the guidelines is there to protect the casinoes from bad reviews, insted of warning about bad casinoes.

 

  Okay dear! You keep thinking that it's just obvious to me that you haven't bothered browsing other players reviews becuase if you had you'd realise you were wrong! I've even written bad reviews myself! Stick to the guidelines and they'll be published, violate the guidelines and they won't. It's really rather simple actually.

[ValDes]

You couldent be more wrong the guidelines is there to protect the casinoes from bad reviews, insted of warning about bad casinoes.

 

Hmm, quite surprised you even dare to call 'this' a review?! Seriously?...

 

https://prnt.sc/j0m5ib

[Fiekie247]

Pragmatic Play is not my favorite gaming provider simply their payouts are too low compared to other giants providers such as Play'N Go, GameArt etc. I only play their games when a casino offers me free spins on a game from that particular provider.

However I love Jurassic Giants!!1 - The game has potential, actually hit a x700 on the slots in 45 free spins...

[Fiekie247]

Hmm, quite surprised you even dare to call 'this' a review?! Seriously?...

 

https://prnt.sc/j0m5ib

I just love it when you Sarcastic - :D :D :D

There are just days where you read someone complaint and you rather say nothing other than waiting on the Guru to come and respond

[Afi4wins]

Hmm, quite surprised you even dare to call 'this' a review?! Seriously?...

 

https://prnt.sc/j0m5ib

 

Extreme High Wager x40 bonus money...??? 

 

Obviously, Dbm811 hasn't seen the others of 30x, 35x and even 40x deposit + bonus wagering requirements! 

[Fiekie247]

Extreme High Wager x40 bonus money...??? 

 

Obviously, Dbm811 hasn't seen the others of 30x, 35x and even 40x deposit + bonus wagering requirements! 

Or to top it all he has not heard of Casino Room yet... There you can get a 500% bonus with x100 wagering on the bonus and 40 selective Netent slots to play your bonus money on...

[cocopop3011]

Hmm, quite surprised you even dare to call 'this' a review?! Seriously?...

 

https://prnt.sc/j0m5ib

 

Hehehe

[Johnnygotthebone]

Lmao. I guess I was right all along about pragmatic play.

 

Lol

 

I called this a long time ago.

[copyyy]

Pragmatic  lately is worst provider out there.
Hitting 2-3kx wins on most of their slots feels impossible. Especially Gates of Olympus and Starlight Princess legit take your money 99% of times. In last 1week I bought around 50 bonuses on those 2 slots didn't get single win over 500x.
Im so done with them, had better run on NoLimit for example, I hit 6,000x+ on Book of shadows couple of months ago and just yesterday I got 2500x on Tombstone RIP.
***** even Pushgaming is better you can still get there decent wins 500-1000x regularly.

Wonder what would happen if I played other providers more, I mainly play Pragmatic slots but thats about to change sketchy as *****.

[cocopop3011]

21 hours ago, copyyy said:

Pragmatic  lately is worst provider out there.
Hitting 2-3kx wins on most of their slots feels impossible. Especially Gates of Olympus and Starlight Princess legit take your money 99% of times. In last 1week I bought around 50 bonuses on those 2 slots didn't get single win over 500x.
Im so done with them, had better run on NoLimit for example, I hit 6,000x+ on Book of shadows couple of months ago and just yesterday I got 2500x on Tombstone RIP.
***** even Pushgaming is better you can still get there decent wins 500-1000x regularly.

Wonder what would happen if I played other providers more, I mainly play Pragmatic slots but thats about to change sketchy as *****.

Which other providers have you tried?

[copyyy]

11 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said:

Which other providers have you tried?

Every popular provider Blue Print, Relax Gaming, Thunderkick, PlayNGO, GameArt, Gamomat, NetEnt etc. Of course all of them take your money in long run but Pragmatic lately has worst scripts I have ever seen like Zeus missing 10 out of 15 bomb during bonus then drops in a row  2x with like 2spins left. I dare someone from this forum to go and buy 20 Zeus or Starlight bonuses in a row and tell me results.
 

[Afi4wins]

6 hours ago, copyyy said:

Every popular provider Blue Print, Relax Gaming, Thunderkick, PlayNGO, GameArt, Gamomat, NetEnt etc. Of course all of them take your money in long run but Pragmatic lately has worst scripts I have ever seen like Zeus missing 10 out of 15 bomb during bonus then drops in a row  2x with like 2spins left. I dare someone from this forum to go and buy 20 Zeus or Starlight bonuses in a row and tell me results.
 

All game providers share the same business target...a consistent revenue from their games...but not all providers share the same ways on how to manage their targets. Some are not so bad, others are simply bad. Any good ones? Only when their games reach their big payout bursting points, otherwise, it's always a continual and gradual reaping process of players money!

Personally to me, Pragmatic is one of the simply bad ones.