Where to discuss the possibility of rigged tables?

[cocopop3011]

So far, the agencies I've contacted are all denying they have any responsibility for Evolution's results.

That's a rather worrying answer.

 

Still waiting for replies from two other agencies, so let's see if one of those want to pick up the hot potato...

I'm not particularly optimistic, but I'll wait and see.

 

Meanwhile, Evolution have updated their software (new interface, new graphics).

They have also resorted to an old tactic: simply reject all winning bids. If you see the message BET REJECTED appear, rest assured that the ball will land on what would have been a winning number. Other bets that actually get accepted: you will lose each and every one of them.

 

I don't really play with them anymore (for obvious reasons), but the twelve spins I played resulted in this:

 

1: BET ACCEPTED: lost

2: BET ACCEPTED: lost

3: BET ACCEPTED: lost (ball got bumped out of the winning number and into the nearest losing spot)

4: BET ACCEPTED: lost

5: BET ACCEPTED: lost (ball got bumped out of the winning number and into the nearest losing spot)

6: BET REJECTED: winning number

7: BET REJECTED: winning number

8: BET ACCEPTED: lost (ball got bumped out of the winning number and into the nearest losing spot)

9: BET REJECTED: winning number

10: BET REJECTED: winning number

11: BET ACCEPTED: lost (ball got bumped out of the winning number and into the nearest losing spot)

12: BET REJECTED: winning number

 

In itself, a perfectly plausible streak of very bad luck.

In the context of the previously mentioned occurrences, extremely worrisome.

 

One more thing: I have noticed more and more other people reporting this exact kind of trouble with Evolution.

Players are actively ditching them and seeking to play elsewhere. If this keeps on, Evolution should start feeling the consequences soon enough.

 

The thing is no one is just going to admit any wrong doing (I'm not saying there I'm not saying there isn't just for the record) without you giving them hard evidence. Just wondering if you're going to continue your pursuit? Out of the past members that have mentioned the same kind of things as you, you are certainly the most persistent I'll give you that!

[kelapa]

The thing is no one is just going to admit any wrong doing (I'm not saying there I'm not saying there isn't just for the record) without you giving them hard evidence.

Just wondering if you're going to continue your pursuit? Out of the past members that have mentioned the same kind of things as you, you are certainly the most persistent I'll give you that!

I don't think they will admit any wrong-doing, no matter what evidence I supply. Truth is they can always hide behind the fact that there is a 1 in several trillion chance that the ball really did just happen to land on the only losing number twenty times in a row.

"In a universe of infinite possibilities" etc.

 

So unless someone at one of these agencies genuinely takes this seriously, then there's absolutely nothing more I can do.

I stopped playing for profit many months ago. Since last month, I've also stopped playing to gather evidence. Every single spin at their table proves me 100% right. I don't need to waste even more time and money, and I've got a whole bunch of recordings that back me up.

 

I'll wait it out for now. At least you now get a lot of reports of fraud when you google for "evolution roulette". Not just mine; other people are becoming more vocal too. 

[Afi4wins]

Well, Kelapa mate, I think it is high time that you stop wasting your good earned money on that roulette thing! 

 

Personally, I am in the opinion that no gambling authority will ever entertain such complaints from players. I have my reasons for this, but I have also mentioned about them earlier on somewhere else, if not in here, but never mind.

 

Basically, just to recap, for all those who are still wondering what I mean...casino games and gaming equipment are no 'simple' basic tools! They are all highly sophisticated modern electronic devices with modern state-of-the-art electronic wizardry, even though they still look the same as the equipment from decades ago! 

[kelapa]

Well, Kelapa mate, I think it is high time that you stop wasting your good earned money on that roulette thing!

 

Oh yes. I quit playing for profit some months ago.

And since last month I've also quit playing for the sake of recording evidence against Evolution. I think I've gathered enough weird videos... 

[Afi4wins]

 

Oh yes. I quit playing for profit some months ago.

And since last month I've also quit playing for the sake of recording evidence against Evolution. I think I've gathered enough weird videos... 

 

Aaaah...that's good mate. Maybe you can start playing on slot games instead, if you do play them. At least you won't find those Wild symbols jumping about from one spot to another! Hahaha. 

[cocopop3011]

 

Oh yes. I quit playing for profit some months ago.

And since last month I've also quit playing for the sake of recording evidence against Evolution. I think I've gathered enough weird videos... 

 

You tried but I am also glad to hear you've given up playing to gather evidence because I think you are fighting a losing battle here, you and many others that have tried and failed. I guess we'll just have to see what the future holds, the truth always comes out in the end, right?

 

Thank you for sharing everything you've gathered it's been really interesting to read and I hope this isn't going to be the last we've heard off you now?

[LeoDubbed]

Kelapa, with a large amount of evidence you should start a revolution against evolution

[kelapa]

Aaaah...that's good mate. Maybe you can start playing on slot games instead, if you do play them. At least you won't find those Wild symbols jumping about from one spot to another! Hahaha. 

Oh god no... I hate gambling when there's no element of skill or control. 

Methinks I'll stick to the occasional football/tennis bet!

[kelapa]

*oops double post* 

[Afi4wins]

Oh god no... I hate gambling when there's no element of skill or control. 

Methinks I'll stick to the occasional football/tennis bet!

 

Aaah...okaay...but even Liverpool, Man United or Roger Federer loses at times...hehehe.    

[kelapa]

Aaah...okaay...but even Liverpool, Man United or Roger Federer loses at times...hehehe.    

 

"At times" is good enough for me.

Certainly beats getting completely destroyed every single spin on some rigged wheel...

[kelapa]

You tried but I am also glad to hear you've given up playing to gather evidence because I think you are fighting a losing battle here, you and many others that have tried and failed. I guess we'll just have to see what the future holds, the truth always comes out in the end, right?

 

Thank you for sharing everything you've gathered it's been really interesting to read and I hope this isn't going to be the last we've heard off you now?

 

I'll check in again to see if Evo's CEO's are being loaded into a police van yet.

[ValDes]

I'll check in again to see if Evo's CEO's are being loaded into a police van yet.

 

Please make sure to refrain from similar statements from now on. You have been given the freedom of speech and chances to defend your position against Evolution Gaming, but it doesn't mean we will tolerate such rude and disrespectful posts. 

 

Consider the above as your first and last warning.  

[kelapa]

Sorry, I was just goofing around there.

[Kivan]

Some outcomes i find unbelievable and find myself shouting and cursing at the thing!!

[k1ng]

Hey guys,

 

I have been playing Evolution's roulette for a few weeks now, I have won and lost. But I want to complain about their live roulette wheel and rigging the game. The way the ball lands is very unusual, it is as though the ball is being pulled in by a magnet. Before the landing the ball is all bouncy and juming around but it lands very smoothly and doesn't move after landing.

 

I play the Evolution Live Speed Roulette and Auto Roulette. 

In one instance I was betting on red and had 13 black streaks. The other day I was betting on 2nd and 3rd dozen and got a hot streak of 8 1st dozens. What are the chances of that happening? 8 low numbers in a row. 

 

With the current technology available it is entirely possible to rig a roulette wheel and I am 100% sure Evolution is using magnets or some sort of technology. I will post slow motion videos to illustrate.

 

I have won and lost but they have the ability to target specific players or bets. And it is not just bad luck.

 

In the meantime, can someone recommend a legit roulette available out there?

[Afi4wins]

One roulette table is just the same as the next roulette table my friend!

No matter which casino you play at, the equipment are all standard casino items...know what I mean? 

 

The difference is that some casinos do it better than others...that's all. 

[ValDes]

Hey guys,

 

I have been playing Evolution's roulette for a few weeks now, I have won and lost. But I want to complain about their live roulette wheel and rigging the game. The way the ball lands is very unusual, it is as though the ball is being pulled in by a magnet. Before the landing the ball is all bouncy and juming around but it lands very smoothly and doesn't move after landing.

 

I play the Evolution Live Speed Roulette and Auto Roulette. 

In one instance I was betting on red and had 13 black streaks. The other day I was betting on 2nd and 3rd dozen and got a hot streak of 8 1st dozens. What are the chances of that happening? 8 low numbers in a row. 

 

With the current technology available it is entirely possible to rig a roulette wheel and I am 100% sure Evolution is using magnets or some sort of technology. I will post slow motion videos to illustrate.

 

I have won and lost but they have the ability to target specific players or bets. And it is not just bad luck.

 

In the meantime, can someone recommend a legit roulette available out there?

 

Hmm, any chance you could prove any of your speculations against Evolution Gaming? Have you referred the matter to the relevant authorities, regulatory bodies and/or testing agencies? What was their response?... 

 

It appears that the freedom of speech which we have always ferociously defended here at the AskGamblers Forum is being wrongfully understood from some people as  "freedom of unjustified defamation"! Enough is enough, advice on how to proceed in case one is having reasonable doubts in the integrity and fairness of particular software vendor's games has already been in some of my previous posts and we will no longer tolerate this malicious slandering unless supported with rock solid evidence!   

 

The topic is being locked with immediate effect. Feel free to drop me a PM once any of you is having the relevant proofs issues by an authority duly authorized to comment and investigate such matters and I guarantee the topic will be reopened in a blink of an eye.