Blacklist all too slow paying casinos.

[volendam101]

No more, no less. 

Why do we keep on payin, gambing money while we have to wait for withdraws for days, weeks, even months ?

Your deposits are received within a few seconds.

I  can live with a few days delay but not more,  reading and knowing all the cases where people have and had to wait makes me sick.

To start with dear AG , why not blacklst all casinos which pay out period is more then 7 days, including weekends ?

Including reverse , pending periods. What is that for nonsense by the way. Should not be possible.

Nobody ever asked me in a landbased casino to overthink my withdraw, never. They cashed out.

[cocopop3011]

No more, no less. 

Why do we keep on payin, gambing money while we have to wait for withdraws for days, weeks, even months ?

Your deposits are received within a few seconds.

I  can live with a few days delay but not more,  reading and knowing all the cases where people have and had to wait makes me sick.

To start with dear AG , why not blacklst all casinos which pay out period is more then 7 days, including weekends ?

 

Don't be ridiculous that would never work and will never happen. I'm sure you'll have members here that will agree, I'm not one of them that has to have an immediate pay out to be happy. We couldn't possible blacklist casinos because of the reason you have said. 

 

Should casinos make you wait? Nope. Can we stop it? Nope. So if you're not happy with a casinos pay out time move on to another one. Simple. (My opinion of course   )

[volendam101]

Can you and other sites stop this?  Yes, for sure,  Make it a week , for payouts. Whats wrong with that ? Yes, you are thinking too simple and in a way too much affiliate-answering, if I may say so.   Pse let my comment resist and let more people giving a comment . Thanks in advance.

[LeoDubbed]

I do agree with you that payouts should processed as fast as the withdrawals but I do believe that casinos are trying to make this happen. For example ; instant withdrawal via e-wallet, skrill one-touch ( 1 click payment ), withdrawal lock. Casinos with these kinda features are the best casinos in my opinion and I strongly believe that more and more casinos are planning to have them too because 'competetions'/'rivals' and that including the land based casinos. I think online casinos will get better features in the future.

 

Putting the casinos with long withdrawal time frames, reverseable withdrawals and pending periodes to the blacklist doesn't sound fair to me because they eventually pay their players. If you don't like their payments programs then I suggest you play only at casinos with the better payments program. Personally I don't play at casinos with long withdrawal time frame anymore.

 

I hope in the future, e-wallet account could be directly linked to the casino/gaming provider which makes withdrawal request superfluous.

[volendam101]

Thanks for your comment Leo.  However, I did not say payouts should be processed as fast as deposits. I said, make it a  week, 7 days, for pay outs.

I know about Skrill , Netelller etc , its about the period which casinos take to start processing.

[LeoDubbed]

Thanks for your comment Leo.  However, I did not say payouts should be processed as fast as deposits. I said, make it a  week, 7 days, for pay outs.

I know about Skrill , Netelller etc , its about the period which casinos take to start processing.

Sorry, I was assuming that we all want to get our money asap

But still, I don't think that's fair to put them in the blacklist, just simply don't give them your money

I honestly dislike to wait longer than needed and I been there and never play there again.

About a decade ago, I had to wait 4 days minimum to get paid and sometimes also a week. There was no instant withdrawals back then and you don't have other choice than to wait...wait...and wait.

[cocopop3011]

Can you and other sites stop this?  Yes, for sure,  Make it a week , for payouts. Whats wrong with that ? Yes, you are thinking too simple and in a way too much affiliate-answering, if I may say so.   Pse let my comment resist and let more people giving a comment . Thanks in advance.

 

Of course, I'm interested to see what others think too. Not sure what you mean by affiliate answering though 

[volendam101]

Leo . as you are saying,  a decade ago.

And ofcourse, in  the end its a players/ depositors choice whether he or she wants to play at a casino where you have to wait more than a week for your money.

But that is also the matter  when a casino is called blacklisted.

Its my honest opinion, whenever you dont get paid within a week after your withdraw-request, providing you did noting wrong yourselve, dont play there anymore and this same attitude i would like to see at casinoforums. Mistakes can happen, I am speaking about continious ongoing behaviour.

If you cant pay your customers their winnings within an agreed period, and this not by mistake but regurlarly, blacklisting should be done as a kind of warning for us, players.

groeten

[Afi4wins]

A casino is just like a restaurant...

 

A new rich-owned restaurant can afford to hire the best cooks, the best waitresses and the best staff...so the restaurant becomes a hit very quickly. And why not? With it's good food, fast service and elegant dining environment, it's sure to be a hit with diners right from the start.

 

A struggling restaurant, on the other hand, may have existed 10 years ago, but business has never been good, so it cannot afford the best of anything. The place may be shoddy, the waitress an old lady, and the cook an old man...and everything goes at a leisurely pace. The food may be good, but service may be slow...and the dining environment leaves much to be desired.

 

Should this old struggling restaurant be blacklisted just because the service is always slow, even though the food is good? No way! Leisurely diners may still prefer this old restaurant, because they are never in a hurry.

 

Casinos? They are the same basically. Those slow paying casinos may be using a third party finance partner, which also serves tens of other casinos, and no matter how hard these finance people work, they can never be fast enough to cater for all the withdrawal processing needs. They are forever overloaded with work.

 

Rich casinos...aaah...they have their own finance department, they have experienced staff that know their job very well, plus experienced customer support team to ensure that all customers are satisfied. Good service, fast payouts. And just like that rich-owned restaurant becoming an instant hit with diners, this rich-owned casino becomes an instant hit with gamblers too.

 

Life has never been fair and life can be very cruel indeed for the unfortunate. Don't make it worse for them. If you don't appreciate their slow service, just go find another one that suits your taste. Rich people never eat at shoddy restaurants do they? 

[volendam101]

Dear cocopop , no offense to you or AG , but for me it looks like there is a difference between waiting for your affilate/fee or waiting for your withdraw as a depositor.

As far as I know affiliates usually get paid their fees once a month  ?

Even casinos who dont pay depositors within 6  weeks are not blacklisted, why not ?

Naming casinos  not necessary.  Do you really believe these are ongoing mistakes and accidents.  Come on please.

Yes, you are right, depositors should play elsewhere. But affiiates earn their money because of depositors, no depositor wants to wait weeks, months for his withdraw.

I could go back to landbased casinos, and then what with affiliate X  or internetcasino Z ? Would blacklisting on fair grounds not be a better choice for all of us.

[volendam101]

Afi, I cant follow you. 

I bet 1 euro at Videoslots, I win and get paid same day or next day.

I bet the same 1 euro at some other casino and i have to wait 6 weeks or 3 months for my winnings, it was the same meal...(same slot )

Where exactly do you recommend me to eat my dinner ?

Being a friend I assume you would tell me the other one should be blacklisted for dinner .

Was not talking about  waiting10 minutes longer for my dessert.

[LeoDubbed]

Leo . as you are saying,  a decade ago.

And ofcourse, in  the end its a players/ depositors choice whether he or she wants to play at a casino where you have to wait more than a week for your money.

But that is also the matter  when a casino is called blacklisted.

Its my honest opinion, whenever you dont get paid within a week after your withdraw-request, providing you did noting wrong yourselve, dont play there anymore and this same attitude i would like to see at casinoforums. Mistakes can happen, I am speaking about continious ongoing behaviour.

If you cant pay your customers their winnings within an agreed period, and this not by mistake but regurlarly, blacklisting should be done as a kind of warning for us, players.

groeten

Actually, I posted a topic about my experience with a high rated casino about a month ago. They have lightning fast payouts, like within an hour. One day, I had to wait about 40 hours to get paid and I end up quit playing there. Not because the late payment...well, I guess a little bit but mostly because the unprofessional behaviour of the support agent.

 

If they still don't pay within the given time then you should file a complaint here or send them hunderds of emails about it  

[Afi4wins]

Afi, I cant follow you. 

I bet 1 euro at Videoslots, I win and get paid same day or next day.

I bet the same 1 euro at some other casino and i have to wait 6 weeks or 3 months for my winnings, it was the same meal...(same slot )

Where exactly do you recommend me to eat my dinner ?

Being a friend I assume you would tell me the other one should be blacklisted for dinner .

Was not talking about  waiting10 minutes longer for my dessert.

 

Sorry Volendam mate, I was talking in general there.

 

Yes, the meal may be the same, the taste may be almost the same, but at one place you get lightning fast service, at another you have to wait hours to get it. The delay is all in the service and in the kitchen, right? 

 

As I was saying, a casino can be lightning fast in payments, another casino at a snail's pace. No 2 casinos can be the same. The fault lies within the casino itself, yes, that's true, but if the casino is genuine but suffers from very poor performance from its finance partner, it cannot do much about it, unless it terminates that contract and sign up a new faster finance partner...all at a much higher cost which the casino may not afford for that moment. Get my meaning mate?

 

I'm not referring to rogue casinos of course, whose main intention is to reap in players money in whatever way they can, with no business ethics involved on their side. These casinos shouldn't be allowed to exist at all.

 

But if a casino is operating genuinely, but is suffering from a snail-pace performance from its partner/s, but cannot do much about it for the moment, then they shouldn't be blacklisted, but more like given a warning sign for players to take note. Like it's casino's name being highlighted, indicating and warning players of its snail-pace performance. That would be better for the casinos too, instead of being blacklisted. Blacklisting means a total no-go for all players.

 

But then again...sorry about all the buts in this message...better buts than butts...hahaha...but like I said, it is all up to the individual player to decide. Those who get caught up are those players who do not know about the casino's poor performance beforehand, through ignorance of course. Those who know would avoid them, of course, unless they are simply preferring to be a bull-headed player, hehehe. 

 

"After all I've said, please don't forget..." borrowing 21 Pilots lyrics...Yes, slow casinos should have their names highlighted and warned for snail-paced payouts, but not blacklisted. Still, those who don't browse for info through Askgamblers here would not know it...and get caught up in the snail-jam. Those who know and still go for that casino are having a very loose sscreww in their head, without any doubt, hahaha. 

 

To cut this very long story short...chop here...chop there...chop chop everywhere...I prefer snail-paced casinos to be highlighted in yellow and warned of their snail-paced payouts. Blacklisting is only meant for casinos that do not follow business ethics, that do not provide any customer service, or even for casinos that refuses to be cooperative with others in finding out the truth.

 

After all I've said, please don't forget...these are just my own opinions, of course. 

[ValDes]

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To start with dear AG , why not blacklst all casinos which pay out period is more then 7 days, including weekends ?

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Alright, let me answer your question as brief and accurate as possible. We do not blacklist casinos which payout period is longer than 7 days because:

 

1/ There is no way you could blacklist any casino which is following their own terms and conditions, meaning that if it's written there a payment could take 1, 2 or more weeks and player agreed and played then everything is okay. It's that simple actually...

 

2/ For those who are not following their own terms and delay/stall payments we have other procedures such as issuing a warning for example. 

[MarcoFernandez91]

It does not matter after what time the withdrawal of money will happen, the main thing is that it happens.

[hajnrih]

No more, no less. 

Why do we keep on payin, gambing money while we have to wait for withdraws for days, weeks, even months ?

Your deposits are received within a few seconds.

I  can live with a few days delay but not more,  reading and knowing all the cases where people have and had to wait makes me sick.

To start with dear AG , why not blacklst all casinos which pay out period is more then 7 days, including weekends ?

Including reverse , pending periods. What is that for nonsense by the way. Should not be possible.

Nobody ever asked me in a landbased casino to overthink my withdraw, never. They cashed out.

 

Blacklisting all casinos that payout in more than 7 days? Including weekend? Hmmmm. Well my dear friend let me put it this way. I'd rather shoot myself in the head before even thinking of playing in any casino that pays out in longer than 24 hours. I'd consider sticking a knife in my leg before depositing in any casino which pays in over 12 hours. 

 

Affiliate site are never gonna go with that, Askgamblers or any other, because....well they simply won't and let's leave it at that without all the bureaucracy. So basically the choice is up to you me, or any other gambler out there. If you keep depositing in those casinos which delay payments for one reason or another you're keeping them in the business. Your money pays their bills and makes them profit. So don't blame the affiliates or the casinos. Simple solution might be.. ahh yes DON'T play there. I stopped doing that a long time ago and believe me my stress levels are much lower.  

[volendam101]

Thanks all for your comments.  I just gave my opinion, hope you  dont mind. This is not happening to me altough it happened to me in the past, long time ago, years ago.

Yes, in  the end its up to a player where he wants to gamble, a big warning from affliates about continious delayed payments would be helpful for all newbies.

Dear Valdes, issuing a warning ...  Howmany warnings are you thinking about .

Leo , I believe  we live in the same country, you will certainly know about BKR. If I dont pay my bills in time continiously or for 3 or 4 months, I´ll get a notification at them.

No way I then will get my electricity from another company or at least not without paying 2 or 3 months in advance. Too slow paying casinos just go on.

I believe that in a few years casinos will be blacklisted which pay TOO slow , just as I am if  I dont pay my bills in time. W`ll see.  Greets to all.

[cocopop3011]

Thanks all for your comments.  I just gave my opinion, hope you  dont mind. This is not happening to me altough it happened to me in the past, long time ago, years ago.

Yes, in  the end its up to a player where he wants to gamble, a big warning from affliates about continious delayed payments would be helpful for all newbies.

Dear Valdes, issuing a warning ...  Howmany warnings are you thinking about .

Leo , I believe  we live in the same country, you will certainly know about BKR. If I dont pay my bills in time continiously or for 3 or 4 months, I´ll get a notification at them.

No way I then will get my electricity from another company or at least not without paying 2 or 3 months in advance. Too slow paying casinos just go on.

I believe that in a few years casinos will be blacklisted which pay TOO slow , just as I am if  I dont pay my bills in time. W`ll see.  Greets to all.

 

And your opinion is a valid one, we welcome anyone to give their opinion, your suggestion would just never work. I think some time or another we've all experienced late withdrawals, it's just up to us whether we decide to play there again.

[ValDes]

Thanks all for your comments.  I just gave my opinion, hope you  dont mind. ...

 

Of course we don't mind and my beloved colleague explained why at the above post.

 

 

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Dear Valdes, issuing a warning ...  Howmany warnings are you thinking about .

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Oh, a lot, for sure! Planet 7, Royal Ace, Cool Cat, Palace Of Chance, etc etc these were all issued a warning long time ago and you know what... We receive new complaints by frustrated players on a daily basis who joined these brands and played despite any warnings or blacklist messages! Go figure it out! 

[LeoDubbed]

Thanks all for your comments.  I just gave my opinion, hope you  dont mind. This is not happening to me altough it happened to me in the past, long time ago, years ago.

Yes, in  the end its up to a player where he wants to gamble, a big warning from affliates about continious delayed payments would be helpful for all newbies.

Dear Valdes, issuing a warning ...  Howmany warnings are you thinking about .

Leo , I believe  we live in the same country, you will certainly know about BKR. If I dont pay my bills in time continiously or for 3 or 4 months, I´ll get a notification at them.

No way I then will get my electricity from another company or at least not without paying 2 or 3 months in advance. Too slow paying casinos just go on.

I believe that in a few years casinos will be blacklisted which pay TOO slow , just as I am if  I dont pay my bills in time. W`ll see.  Greets to all.

Yes I am aware of BKR, so my advise to you is to pay your bills first and then play .

You are entitled to your own opinion about everything, so feel free to share your experience with us  

I don't think casinos will be blacklisted simply because the long payouts time frame. 

[pinnit2015]

There's far more player fraud going on than unscrupulous casinos but i understand why people get annoyed with slow withdrawals but i don't see why that would entail a blacklist - that should be reserved for those casinos that abuse their own terms and conditions - think of the vague 'suspicious pattern' condition, the closing of accounts with the old 'sole discretion' clause invoke - they're the ones who should be on any blacklist: most are quite clear if they have long pending periods - if you don't like a 72 hour plus pending period, don't play there. Simples. 

 

With the new money laundering regulations coming in it's probably going to get worse - still unclear as to why casinos don't feel the need to apply customer due diligence at the start (deposit stage) as part of their controls but i suspect it's a commercial reason. 

[volendam101]

Players who commit fraud are blacklisted by casinos. I was writing bout TOO slow paying, not slow.

I dont like a 72 hours pending period , but when it is in their tc s , no problem for me, still they can pay within 7 days.  Its about casinos which abuse their own withdrawterms and not once but many times. Greets

[Jacob86]

Blacklisting immediately might be a bit harsh.

 

 

My suggestion would be that askgamblers put a standard payout time limit for different methods. This is what the casinos should reach, if not a complaint can be filed.

[MacdoniS]

If AG will blacklist casinos that surpass the payment period indicated from their casino well that will be disastrous. Online casinos sometimes experience this kind problem specially if the player commit any violation or a problem of verification. You know, it's too good to be true. Some casinos have faster payout system and other don't have and also other casinos experience delays from their payouts with/without valid reason to give. 

If you will rule it out here, chances that you can't get the result that you want. You said too slow? That's the reason why AG have complaint section, AG understand that casinos can make mistakes and give chance to the casino itself. I see many online casinos that improve within months/years of experience so why bother? Maybe that's a way of progress if you will insist then I think in my humble opinion let it go and try other casino.

[volendam101]

I rest my point , I respect all different opinions ofcourse.

But let me end with the following clause from AG about their blacklisting rules, it says :

 

Additionally , some of the blacklisted casinos have an unfair policy toward matchbonus OR  unreasonably slow withdraw times.