My experience in 32Red Casino

[leo2]

i just wanted to share my experience at 32red. i deposited money to them and i played roulette for small rolls. at first i was winning until i hit a high profit and then somehow i cannot access the european roulette gold of them anymore and only the premier roulette that i can only play. ever since i played that, its weird how the result shows and it keeps avoiding my bets somehow like it is dictated after i placed my bet. and then i got out of there because of its weird gameplay results of losing many streaks, and then i tried the live roulette for my remaining last money. i remembered my four bets. first, its a missed, second, its a zero, third, its a missed again and my last bet was all in because i can't withdraw the money because of wagering terms. i bet it all and i saw the ball landing and it suddenly jumped on the opposite direction of its spin and landed and i lost. What i can't get out of my mind is that the woman's smirk after that and i do believe she knows what happened there intentionally. I hope my experience helps other newbies and i won't be playing on 32red casino again.

[cocopop3011]

i just wanted to share my experience at 32red. i deposited money to them and i played roulette for small rolls. at first i was winning until i hit a high profit and then somehow i cannot access the european roulette gold of them anymore and only the premier roulette that i can only play. ever since i played that, its weird how the result shows and it keeps avoiding my bets somehow like it is dictated after i placed my bet. and then i got out of there because of its weird gameplay results of losing many streaks, and then i tried the live roulette for my remaining last money. i remembered my four bets. first, its a missed, second, its a zero, third, its a missed again and my last bet was all in because i can't withdraw the money because of wagering terms. i bet it all and i saw the ball landing and it suddenly jumped on the opposite direction of its spin and landed and i lost. What i can't get out of my mind is that the woman's smirk after that and i do believe she knows what happened there intentionally. I hope my experience helps other newbies and i won't be playing on 32red casino again.

 

Hello Leo and welcome to the forum.

 

Sorry to hear that you've had a bad experience at 32Red Casino. A casino as reputable as 32Red certainly don't fix their games and even more I just find it hard to believe that the dealer smirked because you lost. It really makes no difference to the dealer whether you win or lose they are just there doing their job, the profits and losses don't come out of their pockets!

[ValDes]

i just wanted to share my experience at 32red. i deposited money to them and i played roulette for small rolls. at first i was winning until i hit a high profit and then somehow i cannot access the european roulette gold of them anymore and only the premier roulette that i can only play. ever since i played that, its weird how the result shows and it keeps avoiding my bets somehow like it is dictated after i placed my bet. and then i got out of there because of its weird gameplay results of losing many streaks, and then i tried the live roulette for my remaining last money. i remembered my four bets. first, its a missed, second, its a zero, third, its a missed again and my last bet was all in because i can't withdraw the money because of wagering terms. i bet it all and i saw the ball landing and it suddenly jumped on the opposite direction of its spin and landed and i lost. What i can't get out of my mind is that the woman's smirk after that and i do believe she knows what happened there intentionally. I hope my experience helps other newbies and i won't be playing on 32red casino again.

 

In addition to what cocopop has already mentioned, I would like to say that online casinos do not have access and/or control over the results generated by any spin you made with their brands. These are controlled by the gaming software vendor on their servers. 

 

If you have any doubts about the fairness of the games you played there, feel free to request your complete game log and send it to the relevant gaming software company for audit. Otherwise, throwing serious accusations against any online casino, let alone a reputable and trustworthy establishment such as 32Red, without clear and undisputed proofs is simply kind of a slander.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Here is my experience with 32Red

 

57k deposited on three different accounts

 

250 at a time via UKASH vouchers

 

I never made a withdrawal.

 

After analysis of my game play provided byb32 Red.....

 

My totally RTP was exactly 71%

 

My RTP while bonus was attached was 94%

 

My RTP when no bonus was taken was 64%

 

My RTP on free money given as bonus after I kept complaining was 82%

 

These numbers are accurate and have been confirmed at another forum as well.

 

 

32 red is going to be e posed one day. I am always right.

 

Here is another proof of my so called rants..... See my post about this other casino and then see what has come out! I am not psycho.... I know when somethings Is wrong.

 

 

http://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/osiris-casino-review/#review-573087bf7528f7af158b45e8

[partyhummel]

Here is my experience with 32Red

 

57k deposited on three different accounts

 

250 at a time via UKASH vouchers

 

I never made a withdrawal.

 

After analysis of my game play provided byb32 Red.....

 

My totally RTP was exactly 71%

 

My RTP while bonus was attached was 94%

 

My RTP when no bonus was taken was 64%

 

My RTP on free money given as bonus after I kept complaining was 82%

 

These numbers are accurate and have been confirmed at another forum as well.

 

 

32 red is going to be e posed one day. I am always right.

 

Here is another proof of my so called rants..... See my post about this other casino and then see what has come out! I am not psycho.... I know when somethings Is wrong.

 

 

http://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/osiris-casino-review/#review-573087bf7528f7af158b45e8

 

 

hey,

 

thank you for that little tinfoil, chemtrail mood-raiser. :-)

 

i really do not  like 32 red however i am sure you are wastiing brain capacity on those suspicions. :-)

 

have a great day.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Lol.

 

I doubt it!

 

I will never play an MG only casino again. They ruined it for me. Maybe GOWILD but not sure.

[ValDes]

hey,

 

thank you for that little tinfoil, chemtrail mood-raiser. :-)

 

i really do not  like 32 red however i am sure you are wastiing brain capacity on those suspicions. :-)

 

have a great day.

 

Haha, touche!

[QueenofGames]

I registered at 32Red four years ago, since then I have made six deposits. Minimum deposit was € 30, the highest was € 200. For payment, I am waiting for some 48 hours, and the customer support was very helpful when I used the welcome bonus. The games are great, but most of the time I play poker. Poker is a priority for me at 32Red, but lately more and more I visit the casino. On poker I lose a lot of money, then make a deposit at the casino and generally return loss at poker. My favorite slot machines here are: Hot Ink, Avalon II and Hot As Hades.

[ValDes]

Here is my experience with 32Red

 

57k deposited on three different accounts

 

250 at a time via UKASH vouchers

 

I never made a withdrawal.

 

After analysis of my game play provided byb32 Red.....

 

My totally RTP was exactly 71%

 

My RTP while bonus was attached was 94%

 

My RTP when no bonus was taken was 64%

 

My RTP on free money given as bonus after I kept complaining was 82%

 

These numbers are accurate and have been confirmed at another forum as well.

 

 

32 red is going to be e posed one day. I am always right.

 

Here is another proof of my so called rants..... See my post about this other casino and then see what has come out! I am not psycho.... I know when somethings Is wrong.

...

 

One would think that your RTP should be like 171% on average and not 71%, right?

 

I find your accusations against 32Red as totally groundless and unjustified and kindly ask you to refrain from bad-mouthing against such reputable and proven brands UNLESS you have some ROCK SOLID arguments to do that. Such as game logs and official audits for example. 

[Johnnygotthebone]

One would think that your RTP should be like 171% on average and not 71%, right?

 

I find your accusations against 32Red as totally groundless and unjustified and kindly ask you to refrain from bad-mouthing against such reputable and proven brands UNLESS you have some ROCK SOLID arguments to do that. Such as game logs and official audits for example.

 

Hey Valdes.... Game logs were already provided here and on CM a looooooong time ago...

 

32 red and jack pot city logs.

 

On CM Many people smarter than me confirmed that something was fishy.

 

That's in the past now anyway.

 

I have moved on.

 

Better things came since those days.

 

Matter is closed.

[ValDes]

Hey Valdes.... Game logs were already provided here and on CM a looooooong time ago...

 

32 red and jack pot city logs.

 

On CM Many people smarter than me confirmed that something was fishy.

 

That's in the past now anyway.

 

I have moved on.

 

Better things came since those days.

 

Matter is closed.

 

Just to make things clearer... 

 

For what is worth, my worst ever gaming session in terms of lowest RTP I have records of is lower than 50%, 49,75% to be precise. That's RTP based on 2300 spins with 1.00 spins on Silver Fang slot. 

 

Couple of weeks later I got insane run at the same casino, playing with the same bet on the same game in the same way I always did. Hit a bonus round over 2200 x bet and the RTP of that session alone was somewhere in the region of 600%. 

 

In short, you, me and anyone else could rant as much as we want about our personal RTP stats, but the truth is that casinos have zero control over the games we play, at least those offering casino games from serious and reputable gaming companies such Microgaming, NetEnt, Playtech, WMS, etc etc etc. Even if you have some doubts you could always check the monthly audits provided by eCOGRA. I guess you realize there is no way you could have a casino, game provider and auditing company at the same time 'altering' the results you achieved playing.

[Scotty66]

edited - did not use quote properly  - new post below

[Scotty66]

Here is my experience with 32Red

 

57k deposited on three different accounts

 

250 at a time via UKASH vouchers

 

I never made a withdrawal.

 

After analysis of my game play provided byb32 Red.....

 

My totally RTP was exactly 71%

 

My RTP while bonus was attached was 94%

 

My RTP when no bonus was taken was 64%

 

My RTP on free money given as bonus after I kept complaining was 82%

 

 

 

 

My experience with 32Red  is very similar regarding RTPs.

They are not providing me with my data in a suitable format to give exact percentages just now - but my rough claculations confirm that the RTPs in my case are very much like Johnnys (although I spent much less).   

My experience was that there is a HUGE difference between wins and payouts when playing with and without Bonuses - and the accompanying Wagering Requirements and Withdrawal Restrictions.

[cocopop3011]

My experience with 32Red  is very similar regarding RTPs.

They are not providing me with my data in a suitable format to give exact percentages just now - but my rough claculations confirm that the RTPs in my case are very much like Johnnys (although I spent much less).   

My experience was that there is a HUGE difference between wins and payouts when playing with and without Bonuses - and the accompanying Wagering Requirements and Withdrawal Restrictions.

 

If you're not happy with your RTP's why don't you just move to a different casino Scotty?

[Hellridah]

My experience with 32Red  is very similar regarding RTPs.

They are not providing me with my data in a suitable format to give exact percentages just now - but my rough claculations confirm that the RTPs in my case are very much like Johnnys (although I spent much less).   

My experience was that there is a HUGE difference between wins and payouts when playing with and without Bonuses - and the accompanying Wagering Requirements and Withdrawal Restrictions.

 

Return to Player

 

Casinos often use the phrase “Return to Player” (RTP) to describe a game’s theoretical payout percentage, such as how much of all wagered money that a video lottery terminal or slot game will pay back to players over time. RTP is typically expressed as a percentage, like 95%, which would mean that out of every $100 bet, the player might expect to receive $95 back in winnings.

Another way to think of RTP is as the flip side of the House Edge. A casino table game like European Roulette has a built-in advantage for the House of 2.7%, so the Return to Player can be expressed as RTP = 1 – 2.7% = 97.3%. In theory at least, the higher the RTP, the longer the player’s bankroll should last. But players are well advised to take any claims regarding RTP with a grain of salt. It is not exactly what it might appear to be.

 

Behind the Numbers

 

Especially online, casinos often publish the RTP percentages for their slot and table games. They do so to convince players of the fairness of their software and to provide a means of comparison with their competitors. Games with low RTP figures are said to be “tight,” while those with high values are referred to as “loose.” For slot games, the range separating the two categories can be as great as 75 to 99 percent. Fortunately, most jurisdictions regulate the minimum paybacks that games must return, so players are protected from casino operators who might otherwise take unfair advantage.

Nevertheless, it is important to remember that the declared RTP, no matter how truthful or accurate, is an average of many, many plays over time. The percentages may vary only a little from month to month, but during a single short session of play, the actual RTP can be quite different from the published statistics.

Take, for example, a game of Blackjack played solo against the House. The House Edge might be 1%, but the player doesn’t expect to win back $99 on every $100 bet. For a single $100 wager, the RTP will most likely be either zero (for a loss) or 200% (for a win). If splits, doubles, insurance, pushes and surrender are taken into account, even more possibilities arise, none of which is 99%. It is only over the course of hundreds or thousands of hands that the theoretical payout of 99% will be reached.

 

The Frequency Factor

 

RTP can also be misleading in another way. It does not give any indication of how frequently the player can expect to win. As noted above, European Roulette offers an RTP of 97.3%. That percentage is true for every bet made at the table. But a player wagering only on the colors, Red or Black, will see payouts much more frequently than the player who bets on just one number straight up. In fact, it may take dozens of spins before the single number player sees any return at all.

This frequency factor applies to slot games, too. A 95% RTP game that has a low frequency of payouts may only have a winning combination show up once in every ten spins while a high frequency 95% RTP game may have winning combinations appear every three or four spins on average. The difference is that games with a high win frequency make numerous small payouts, while those with a lower win frequency pay out larger amounts only on occasion. Frequency has no effect on the game’s RTP.

One other way in which casinos use RTP to mislead players about the frequency of winnings is through progressive jackpots. Each time a huge progressive is won—a rare event at best—the massive payout gives a big boost to the average RTP, making it appear as though the games reward players much more often than they actually do. Therefore, when evaluating what games to play, RTP should not be considered in isolation. The player should also take into account other factors, such as “Volatility” and “Variance,” as explained in accompanying sections of this web site.

 

Hope this helps out guys allways remember chance favours the prepared mind good luck and all the best ! .

[Johnnygotthebone]

i just wanted to share my experience at 32red. i deposited money to them and i played roulette for small rolls. at first i was winning until i hit a high profit and then somehow i cannot access the european roulette gold of them anymore and only the premier roulette that i can only play. ever since i played that, its weird how the result shows and it keeps avoiding my bets somehow like it is dictated after i placed my bet. and then i got out of there because of its weird gameplay results of losing many streaks, and then i tried the live roulette for my remaining last money. i remembered my four bets. first, its a missed, second, its a zero, third, its a missed again and my last bet was all in because i can't withdraw the money because of wagering terms. i bet it all and i saw the ball landing and it suddenly jumped on the opposite direction of its spin and landed and i lost. What i can't get out of my mind is that the woman's smirk after that and i do believe she knows what happened there intentionally. I hope my experience helps other newbies and i won't be playing on 32red casino again.

 

If I answer u... or state my honest experience.... VALDES will permanently block me from here.

 

One advice.... avoid MG only casinos. That's the only advice I could give you, ever since I did that, I'm actually winning

[Johnnygotthebone]

 

Return to Player

 

 

Casinos often use the phrase “Return to Player” (RTP) to describe a game’s theoretical payout percentage, such as how much of all wagered money that a video lottery terminal or slot game will pay back to players over time. RTP is typically expressed as a percentage, like 95%, which would mean that out of every $100 bet, the player might expect to receive $95 back in winnings.

Another way to think of RTP is as the flip side of the House Edge. A casino table game like European Roulette has a built-in advantage for the House of 2.7%, so the Return to Player can be expressed as RTP = 1 – 2.7% = 97.3%. In theory at least, the higher the RTP, the longer the player’s bankroll should last. But players are well advised to take any claims regarding RTP with a grain of salt. It is not exactly what it might appear to be.

 

Behind the Numbers

 

Especially online, casinos often publish the RTP percentages for their slot and table games. They do so to convince players of the fairness of their software and to provide a means of comparison with their competitors. Games with low RTP figures are said to be “tight,” while those with high values are referred to as “loose.” For slot games, the range separating the two categories can be as great as 75 to 99 percent. Fortunately, most jurisdictions regulate the minimum paybacks that games must return, so players are protected from casino operators who might otherwise take unfair advantage.

Nevertheless, it is important to remember that the declared RTP, no matter how truthful or accurate, is an average of many, many plays over time. The percentages may vary only a little from month to month, but during a single short session of play, the actual RTP can be quite different from the published statistics.

Take, for example, a game of Blackjack played solo against the House. The House Edge might be 1%, but the player doesn’t expect to win back $99 on every $100 bet. For a single $100 wager, the RTP will most likely be either zero (for a loss) or 200% (for a win). If splits, doubles, insurance, pushes and surrender are taken into account, even more possibilities arise, none of which is 99%. It is only over the course of hundreds or thousands of hands that the theoretical payout of 99% will be reached.

 

The Frequency Factor

 

RTP can also be misleading in another way. It does not give any indication of how frequently the player can expect to win. As noted above, European Roulette offers an RTP of 97.3%. That percentage is true for every bet made at the table. But a player wagering only on the colors, Red or Black, will see payouts much more frequently than the player who bets on just one number straight up. In fact, it may take dozens of spins before the single number player sees any return at all.

This frequency factor applies to slot games, too. A 95% RTP game that has a low frequency of payouts may only have a winning combination show up once in every ten spins while a high frequency 95% RTP game may have winning combinations appear every three or four spins on average. The difference is that games with a high win frequency make numerous small payouts, while those with a lower win frequency pay out larger amounts only on occasion. Frequency has no effect on the game’s RTP.

One other way in which casinos use RTP to mislead players about the frequency of winnings is through progressive jackpots. Each time a huge progressive is won—a rare event at best—the massive payout gives a big boost to the average RTP, making it appear as though the games reward players much more often than they actually do. Therefore, when evaluating what games to play, RTP should not be considered in isolation. The player should also take into account other factors, such as “Volatility” and “Variance,” as explained in accompanying sections of this web site.

 

Hope this helps out guys allways remember chance favours the prepared mind good luck and all the best ! .

 

 

 

Well since THE RTP CAME UP I can confirm that after 55k deposited into 32Red over 6 months, 250 at a time, my over all RTP IS 71%.... documented history of my entire posted somewhere here I think and 100% on CM as well.

 

If there is a representative from 32 RED HERE on this site, I authorize you to post all my play here on askngamblers, I will give you the three different email addresses that I used for three different accounts. Just PM me on problem.

 

Thanks

[ValDes]

If I answer u... or state my honest experience.... VALDES will permanently block me from here.

 

One advice.... avoid MG only casinos. That's the only advice I could give you, ever since I did that, I'm actually winning

 

Wrong!!!   

 

ValDes or any other member of the AskGamblers Forum staff would never block anyone without a rock solid reason, such as systematic violation of the Forum Rules for example. And YOU know that very very well since your account has already been blocked on several different occasions for various violations. Let me also remind you that while you have been kicked out with the speed of sound from other gambling forums for your ludicrous statements and accusations, it was AskGamblers who gave you tribune and let you say what you want to say without censorship. It was again AskGamblers who did their best to help you with your issue with VideSlots when all others were laughing at you and called you names...

 

Now I know we should have never done this, cause you do not deserve to be part of such a friendly, peaceful and cheerful community like ours. 

[Hellridah]

Well since THE RTP CAME UP I can confirm that after 55k deposited into 32Red over 6 months, 250 at a time, my over all RTP IS 71%.... documented history of my entire posted somewhere here I think and 100% on CM as well.

 

If there is a representative from 32 RED HERE on this site, I authorize you to post all my play here on askngamblers, I will give you the three different email addresses that I used for three different accounts. Just PM me on problem.

 

Thanks

 

Different Accounts .... not a good idea man ...not sure about MG casino's in general I've met a few dodgy ones ...but theres a load that are solid ...ill vouch for 32 nothing wrong with them and the different account come on man lo.

[cocopop3011]

Different Accounts .... not a good idea man ...not sure about MG casino's in general I've met a few dodgy ones ...but theres a load that are solid ...ill vouch for 32 nothing wrong with them and the different account come on man lo.

 

I have to agree here. I'm not MG;'s biggest fan, although there was a time I played their games the most but I got sick of all the clones. I'll always have my old classics that I'll never fall out of love with but their new games just aren't for me. 

 

However this is just my personal opinion, MG always have been and still are a highly ranked provider in the industry and I've never had much luck myself at 32Red but the casino itself IMO is run very well. 

[Afi4wins]

Well, as far as I am concerned, and as far as I have experienced, no single software provider has not disappointed me, and no single software provider has not given me wins either.

 

Generally, I do not like much of RTG, Rival, Topgame and Microgaming's games, but I have won on at least one game from each provider. I am a diehard fan of Playtech, yet my wins are mostly concentrated on a very few games, and still is. And the same goes for other providers too, like NetEnt, Play'nGo, Thunderkick, whatever.

 

Can any single provider or casino be perfect in every sense? No way at all, it is simply impossible. Even mother nature has its ups and downs. Even mother nature can be very destructive, regardless of who are affected by it. And just like mother nature, any casino or any provider can be as heaven-sent or be as destructive as a hurricane to any one individual.

 

Nothing will be the same. Nothing will remain the same either. 

 

Having said all that, I avoid everything that I don't like, or that which doesn't like me, like for most MG games and MG casinos for example! It's not for anybody else, nor for everybody else, but this is only for me! 

[LeoDubbed]

There were a few rogue microgaming casinos in the past but they are gone now and I think Microgaming is still on of the best (might be the safest) gaming provider. I really do not think that the games are fixed. We all know that there are rogue casino still running nowadays with fake games from popular softwares but Microgaming's not one of them, that should proof us something, right?

I might be just a simple gambler, I play to entertain myself, if I win I'm happy and if I lose I don't complain. I don't need RTP statistics of my gaming history or something like that because I like my gaming experience just to be simple and fun.

You don't like the casino, move on. Don't blame the casino for losing, we all lose sometimes...correction, most of the times but it is still gambling and losing is a big part of it

[LilianInThaHouse]

32Red Casino is one of my favorite Microgaming casinos of all time. I never had single problem there.

 

I am sorry to hear you experienced issues there but I can tell you it's reputable and superb casino and no way some malwarsations are possible.

I would strongly recommend to request game log like suggested and let's see what happen. That is the first thing to check out then you can devide wether to file complaint or not.

[Scotty66]

I got data from them and while on Bonus my RTP was over 100% - could not press a button but I won!  Ended up with hundreds that of course, I could not withdraw as the Bonus Wagering Requirements were for thousands and so so had to "play it all away" over a few days.  Never did quite fulfill the wagering, although I got close.  Then IMMEDIATELY my balance returned to 0.00 and the wagering withdrawal restiriction were gone and I deposited more money, my RTP went down to twenty something percent. 

 

Waited a week or so and played other places, then went back.   RTPs then averaged somewhere between the 2 extremes above, but after a month or so my RTP was still and way below their adversised rates and I never won enough at one time to make a withdrawal (although once won about £50 and should have withdrwan it - but thought I'd try to win as big as I had when on Bonus and lost it). 

 

Remember - I never actually made a withdrawal all the time I was there.

 

RTP was still well "below what they would like to see", and so I was given a load of free spins to try to bump it up, which it did slightly - but even then, my overall my RTP just made it to about 80%.  

 

Asked for a "gesture of goodwill " but not forthcoming - and Manager a bit aggresive / overly defensive / accusing me of doubting / questioning the integrity of casino etc - and insiting the RTPs were fine etc.  I left. 

[Afi4wins]

Huh! My experience with a lot of MG casinos were about the same...had lost a lot of money, then asked for a consolation free chip, or a gesture of goodwill, and all I got was a footprint...the manager's footprint! So I closed his footprint, with him inside, and ended a casino account history for good.