Johnnygotthebone Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 How do you deal with your gambling depression? It is normal but as we Gamble, we lose many times, we get depressed, it's normal. That's part of how do you deal with your depression, over the last couple years, I've made many friends, believe it or not. They have shared their stories with me and it really saddens me, I am lucky because I have a family, a good income and my health is OK, but many of the people I speak to are really in bad shape. Some even talked about just giving it all up because they don't want to wake up the next day. Personally, when I go on a bad Run, I really get down, I'm not the same with my children, nothing works right in my head, and I just hate everything. Even if it's minimal deposits that I lose now, in the old days, I cripple $3000 in a day, but now, that amount has been reduced dramatically because I was able to control myself better. My depression, really makes me angry, when I going and lose, I feel like I have been violated, like someone has stolen something from me. How do I deal with it, I don't drink, I don't do drugs, I'm pretty clean but dealing with this depression involves me going into a state of silence. I don't want to know anything from anybody, it's really sad, but gambling brings a big depression from me. I'm usually a pretty active person was very happy and is always running around doing things, but the depression at this sadness really cuts me down, I will never win 100% of the time so that will always be a part of me since I will be losing many times. How do you deal with your depression? cocopop3011, Awena and ValDes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Dear Johnny, First of all, allow me to raise a big thumbs up for you first ever forum post which meets all common spelling, formatting and grammar requirements! It's such a pleasure and joy for my eyes reading a post which is not split in a zillion separate lines and full of exclamation marks, caps locks and stuff like that... Thank you and hope that would be your new posting style from now on, I love it! Second and more important, thank you for raising such an important question and initiating a discussion about it. Depression after a bad run could be indeed a very serious issue, especially at the beginning, when player is not that experienced and faces a serious loss for the first time. I've gone through some really bad periods in my gambling life too where my so called 'gambling depression' have been a serious pain and caused me troubles with being adequate on my workplace as well as being a normal father and husband... I guess the time and the total support my wife had always offered me was the key factor which helped me overcome all these periods and learn to keep these states of depressions now under total control. So, my advice for those suffering from such gambling depression would be to stick with people whom they love and make them feel loved and safe. PS. Moved that topic to a proper forum location. cocopop3011 and Awena 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winningfly Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Well, i think most important thing is accept losses. It saved me a lot of money , since i understand this. Otherwise - you will go to casinos take your money back....And finish with even more losses. Sometimes after big losses when you feel that it is impossible to take rest - it is just take 20$, deposit in some new casino with different software. Play min bets and enjoy new games. No rush for winnings. ValDes and cocopop3011 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 How do you deal with your gambling depression? It is normal but as we Gamble, we lose many times, we get depressed, it's normal. That's part of how do you deal with your depression, over the last couple years, I've made many friends, believe it or not. They have shared their stories with me and it really saddens me, I am lucky because I have a family, a good income and my health is OK, but many of the people I speak to are really in bad shape. Some even talked about just giving it all up because they don't want to wake up the next day. Personally, when I go on a bad Run, I really get down, I'm not the same with my children, nothing works right in my head, and I just hate everything. Even if it's minimal deposits that I lose now, in the old days, I cripple $3000 in a day, but now, that amount has been reduced dramatically because I was able to control myself better. My depression, really makes me angry, when I going and lose, I feel like I have been violated, like someone has stolen something from me. How do I deal with it, I don't drink, I don't do drugs, I'm pretty clean but dealing with this depression involves me going into a state of silence. I don't want to know anything from anybody, it's really sad, but gambling brings a big depression from me. I'm usually a pretty active person was very happy and is always running around doing things, but the depression at this sadness really cuts me down, I will never win 100% of the time so that will always be a part of me since I will be losing many times. How do you deal with your depression? First of all let me second what Valdes said about this post! It's formatted perfectly, read it back yourself Johnny and then compare it to your other posts which have about a million lines, 10 spaces between each line and just a few words per line This is much better! Now you're a person I can relate to! In answer to your question gambling depression can be tough. Before I took a long break from gambling and from AG too I'd go through stages like this. Realising you've just spent a load of cash and keep winning nothing back. It;s hard. Which is why the break learnt me a huge lesson. I'll never go back to my old gambling habits. Don't get me wrong I've never been a person to deposit huge amounts in one go but I was a person to deposit numerous times a day every single day of the week. Now I'm a person that makes little deposits when it suits me, this may even mean its once per week sometimes, sometimes its more. But I always make sure I am not going over my budget and more importantly out of my comfort zone. I've been on a dry spell for months now with exception of 1 withdrawal and I'm not even the tiniest bit depressed. You may think but how can gambling be exciting with so little deposits! Well it is, its just as exciting to me now as it was when I first started! If not more! I am in complete control and that's a great feeling! ValDes, Awena and partyhummel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygotthebone Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 I would like to clarify one little thing, I am not a depressed person. Actually, I'm the exact opposite, the only problem I have, is when I make deposits, many of them, minimal, and games like Starburst take me from $30 to zero dollars without a starburst, or, Rhinos, go 300 spins without a free spin and then I get the bonus guarantee and lose my deposit, I get into a different mode, like everybody else. The thing is, we all have a different way of dealing with losing, my way is to close up, and pretend I'm alone, when I'm really not, this could last 10 minutes, or could last three hours. The funny thing is, my biggest depression, when gaming, is when I turn $32, into $500 and continue to keep playing and lose. I pretty much stopped doing that now, so I don't get depressed as much as I used to. Everybody is different, we all have our own problems, we all deal with gambling depression in a different way. I just hope one day, it doesn't get to the point where it's just part of every day life. I have been a good run since the beginning of September, and I have not gambled in over two weeks now, busy. I will start again, probably next week, and I will have my ups and downs. Basically, gambling is a bipolar bomb partyhummel, Awena and ValDes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyloser Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I would like to clarify one little thing, I am not a depressed person. Actually, I'm the exact opposite, the only problem I have, is when I make deposits, many of them, minimal, and games like Starburst take me from $30 to zero dollars without a starburst, or, Rhinos, go 300 spins without a free spin and then I get the bonus guarantee and lose my deposit, I get into a different mode, like everybody else. The thing is, we all have a different way of dealing with losing, my way is to close up, and pretend I'm alone, when I'm really not, this could last 10 minutes, or could last three hours. The funny thing is, my biggest depression, when gaming, is when I turn $32, into $500 and continue to keep playing and lose. I pretty much stopped doing that now, so I don't get depressed as much as I used to. Everybody is different, we all have our own problems, we all deal with gambling depression in a different way. I just hope one day, it doesn't get to the point where it's just part of every day life. I have been a good run since the beginning of September, and I have not gambled in over two weeks now, busy. I will start again, probably next week, and I will have my ups and downs. Basically, gambling is a bipolar bomb I feel this way sometimes aswell. If i have a good time and lose i feel fine about it. But if i lose a substantial amount (500-1000Euros) very fast i feel cheated and angry. Sometimes i have even gone on chat and called the casino all the possible four letter words i could think of. But i realise that feeling this way is not healthy, and it rasies a question. If you feel this way does that mean you are losing more than you can afford? Ive realised that i sometimes cannot controll my gambling so i try to limit myself. The way i see it, if you play to much and lose to much, setting deposit limit is not going to help because you will only find other casinos to open accounts and play. And if you feel depressed after playing its better to take a break and reconcider your actions. I know this is hard as im struggeling with this myself. But after losing close to 5K in a few days i was sitting in my bed and thinking is this the life i want to live? When gambling makes me feel so bad that i want to kill myself after losing then its not healthy. And as you say johnny; your not the same around your kids and family when you lose. Thats a sure indicator that you are struggeling with gambling addiction. I would honestly estimate that almost all players that play on a regular basis(several times a week) have some sort of gambling addiction. Some are just lucky they havent hit the inevitable losing streak that eventually comes around. Lets face it gambling is very addicting. It can also be fun, but when it makes you feel depressed its time to stepp back and think about it, is it worth it? A psycologist once told me; before you gamble or indulge in any addiction. You have to make the decition to do so. The next time you want to gamble just try to think about the depression that comes after losses. Becasue the losses WILL come. I know i have been screaming "rigged" and such, but even if its not rigged we are playing a losing game. ValDes, partyhummel and Awena 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygotthebone Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 I went through that phase of anger against the casinos, but I realized, it's not their fault. I have honestly, have total control over my gaming, I am up a substantial amount of money this year, maybe that's why I have more control, when you're winning, you're much stronger. The minimal deposit method that I am using now, doesn't make me lose a lot if I go on a bad run. But, if I deposit $50 into a casino and it takes it away for me in a matter of seconds, I really get depressed. Even if I won 500 earlier in the day, I am still going to get the price but I lost that 50. Luckily I know what is more important than my life, my kids don't really get any abuse from me, I just close up and when my little one comes to asking for a hug I tell her maybe after in a sweet way, I don't want her to see my depression live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyloser Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I went through that phase of anger against the casinos, but I realized, it's not their fault. I have honestly, have total control over my gaming, I am up a substantial amount of money this year, maybe that's why I have more control, when you're winning, you're much stronger. The minimal deposit method that I am using now, doesn't make me lose a lot if I go on a bad run. But, if I deposit $50 into a casino and it takes it away for me in a matter of seconds, I really get depressed. Even if I won 500 earlier in the day, I am still going to get the price but I lost that 50. Luckily I know what is more important than my life, my kids don't really get any abuse from me, I just close up and when my little one comes to asking for a hug I tell her maybe after in a sweet way, I don't want her to see my depression live. Yes, when we win its all good. I have also been on huge runs where i could not lose, but then the losses come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygotthebone Posted October 9, 2015 Author Share Posted October 9, 2015 I am treating it like a business now. Every penny checked. All stats carefully studied. I deposit 32 dollars 10 times and lose and then if I win 400 I cash without hesitating. I don't get that depressed if I managed to win back what I lost, those days when the money just doesn't come back, it's just unbearable to feel that way for as long as it takes to get over it Lucky... Your numbers remind me of mine in 2014-2015..... I went through ***** mate depressed was an understatement. Luckily, now I've managed to reduce my deposits to under $50 ....90% of the time. I find that it has helped me be a little bit less depressed when going on about run. The depression will always be there when I lose, One thing that makes me happy though, is that I don't take out my misery on my family, never, I just close up, maybe it's affecting them and I don't see it, who knows, I better start thinking carefully before I speak to anyone when I'm depressed. As long as the kids are smiling, I'm happy. I am confident they are better off with me in their life, than without me there, I do more for them than anyone else and that's what it's all about at the end of the day. If I didn't have them, or my family, I have no idea where my life would be right now, if it would even be. Awena 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 As long as the kids are smiling, I'm happy. Yep, that's the most important thing in the world! Nothing takes precedence over this! Awena 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygotthebone Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Yep, that's the most important thing in the world! Nothing takes precedence over this! Agreed. What lucky said makes sense as well.... He says while we are winning everything is dandy. That could not me more accurate. When I hit and cash and am on top, I can go play hide and seek with the little one for an hour. If I lose I will still play, but it would be the same in the beginning. I do it because it is my obligation as a father, but this gambling depression and (what the right word for it?), Rush I guess, is becoming more and more of my daily obligations. When I used to gamble outside, I had no kids, who cared? Not me. Win lose I cam home and carried on. Everything has changed. Kids, obligations etc... Am I out of my damn mind making this gaming a part of my obligations? I am treating it like a business. Is that a way to justify my actions? I'll be honest, I made a small deposit today at LEO VEGAS, An hour ago. I just cashed out 500€. I am happy and cheerful. I ask myself, is this who I am? Is this what I have been reduced to? Depending on a slot machine to tell me how to be? I can not believe how this gaming has technically run my life. Anyway, so much blah blah, I am just trying to make sense of it. I did not know I was suffering from gambling depression until I started reading my original post. This is a serious thing. I am not laughing. Actually, for the first time in my entire life, I am beginning to scare myself. ValDes, Raptordinos, luckyloser and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 Agreed. What lucky said makes sense as well.... He says while we are winning everything is dandy. That could not me more accurate. When I hit and cash and am on top, I can go play hide and seek with the little one for an hour. If I lose I will still play, but it would be the same in the beginning. I do it because it is my obligation as a father, but this gambling depression and (what the right word for it?), Rush I guess, is becoming more and more of my daily obligations. When I used to gamble outside, I had no kids, who cared? Not me. Win lose I cam home and carried on. Everything has changed. Kids, obligations etc... Am I out of my damn mind making this gaming a part of my obligations? I am treating it like a business. Is that a way to justify my actions? I'll be honest, I made a small deposit today at LEO VEGAS, An hour ago. I just cashed out 500€. I am happy and cheerful. I ask myself, is this who I am? Is this what I have been reduced to? Depending on a slot machine to tell me how to be? I can not believe how this gaming has technically run my life. Anyway, so much blah blah, I am just trying to make sense of it. I did not know I was suffering from gambling depression until I started reading my original post. This is a serious thing. I am not laughing. Actually, for the first time in my entire life, I am beginning to scare myself. Johnny, Thank you so much for this particular post mate! Now I know we did the right thing when we decided to let you back in the forum. A person capable to be so straightforward and open, definitely deserve to be a part of our forum community despite all his previous 'sins'. I am happy and cheerful. I ask myself, is this who I am? Is this what I have been reduced to? Depending on a slot machine to tell me how to be? I can not believe how this gaming has technically run my life. Yes, you are totally right, that's the fundamental question which everyone of us here I believe asked him/herself at a certain stage of their gambling 'career'... Am I bloody dependent on the outcome of a gambling session? Could the win/lose scenario influence so much my life, my relations, my behaviour, my ME?...Am I capable to say No, I will not gamble today, tomorrow, this week, this month and stick to that promise?...Am I capable to resist my gambling demons and fight them back?..... And you know what? YES, I AM! And I am damn happy and proud for that! Cause it's so difficult sometimes...you know, walking through ***** and back... Facing these tough questions is the best you could do to start realizing the reality in which you lived so far. But now comes to the most difficult part - to give an honest answer to the questions and face the truth no matter what, to accept that truth no matter what and to do what necessary no matter what! PS. Sorry for the emotional post. cocopop3011, Awena and Raptordinos 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygotthebone Posted October 10, 2015 Author Share Posted October 10, 2015 Thank you for your kind words Somehow, the gambling itself will always be a part of my brain, a little part of my brain has that gambling feature, since there's no way to get it out, I have no choice but to go through the ups and downs of this so-called bipolar depression of gambling I have accepted that I don't want to stop playing online. I don't gamble anywhere else, I don't even play lottery tickets anymore. I have no interest in anything but playing online because it keeps me close to my family. All my exclusions of the casinos and we were local or within hundreds of miles have no regrets I do not play online poker anymore because sitting down for 10 hours to play a tournament keeps me away from reality of my obligations to my family In the last 15 days, I have only made two deposits and cashed out twice. I think I am afraid to go on a really bad run and lose everything. I dunno. Hopefully now that I've actually understood I have this depression inside me when losing, only, the timeframe of its existence will get a lower and lower and I'll be able to acceptt it and not be depressed anymore when things just don't go well Raptordinos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partyhummel Posted October 10, 2015 Share Posted October 10, 2015 i was already severely depressed, before i started gambling... don´t know how live was without depression and suicidal thoughts - sometimes actions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygotthebone Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Hi Party. This is a completely different depression from the depression people all over the world suffer, your depression stems from life. It's a sad thing and it's really hard to live with it, basically you're suffer every day because it's always inside you. Gamling depression is something completely different, as I am not a depressed person in every day life, I can assure you that the gambling depression is a temporary thing that goes away with time. Your depression will always be there no matter what. One of the top selling prescription drugs in the United States is for bipolar depression, there was no drug for a gambling depression, the only cure is time. I could just imagine how it must be to live with the depression 24 hours a day, I do not envy you and I pray for you. The only advice I can give you, is that life is very short and you should try to enjoy each second. But most people with your condition, don't, and that's the sad thing in all this winningfly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winningfly Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Very good post Johnnygotthebone, specially about enjoy each second... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygotthebone Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Yeah. Pretty sad depression. Living in darkness without hope. I can never imagine that. I thank God every day that I don't suffer from that. Gambling depression is temporary. A quick bipolar act that fades quickly. Sometimes it can last only minutes. More anger than anything else. Feeling violated. Cheated. But it goes away. Raptordinos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptordinos Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Wow, I don't know what to say in these cases, I only feel sad when I lose, I think if you are depressed even when you're winning maybe you need to explore more new activities or maybe there is something else wrong in your life you don't know. Just smell the flowers while you're walking. Awena and Johnnygotthebone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygotthebone Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Depression and gambling depression although sound the same, have nothing to with each other. Daily life depression is considered a sickness in life circumstances stemming from any one of a million reasons that needs medical attention. A gambling bipolar episode does not last long as the major cure is time. Raptordinos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygotthebone Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 It is so weird how this gambling the person works. Yesterday I had an amazing day, I made a few thousand euros profit, good for me. I wake up this morning, I'm on m it is so weird how this guy I'm letting the person works. Yesterday I had an amazing day, I made a few thousand euros profit, good for me. I wake up this morning, and I am in the best of moods. Smiling laughing joking around full of energy. As if I won $25 million or something when it was only just a couple of thousand. Most days when I lose during the night, and I wake up in the morning, I just want to stay under the blanket to not see anybody for a while, that is the first sign of depression. So the way I see it, this depression is always in, me, bipolar is an understatement, today I'm on a high, maybe later I'll be on the low. Up-and-down we go as Gambling will always control my destiny for the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awena Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 It is so weird how this gambling the person works. Yesterday I had an amazing day, I made a few thousand euros profit, good for me. I wake up this morning, I'm on m it is so weird how this guy I'm letting the person works. Yesterday I had an amazing day, I made a few thousand euros profit, good for me. I wake up this morning, and I am in the best of moods. Smiling laughing joking around full of energy. As if I won $25 million or something when it was only just a couple of thousand. Most days when I lose during the night, and I wake up in the morning, I just want to stay under the blanket to not see anybody for a while, that is the first sign of depression. So the way I see it, this depression is always in, me, bipolar is an understatement, today I'm on a high, maybe later I'll be on the low. Up-and-down we go as Gambling will always control my destiny for the day Hi Johny I would ask one question if I may, please? How come you can be so sure that gambling will control your destiny ? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygotthebone Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Hi Johny I would ask one question if I may, please? How come you can be so sure that gambling will control your destiny ? Thanks in advance! Yes answer is very simple, gambling decides my mood for a long period of the day, if I don't gamble in a day, my mood is always the same, if I gamble and I lose, I'll be miserable for a while, but I'll get over it, but I want to play again, be happy, then if I win, I'm really happy, but if I lose, I'm depressed because I lost, it's a bipolar gambling depression goes up and down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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