Johnny's Proven System - A method for a life long gambler to maintain control of his addiction explained

[Johnnygotthebone]

I was contemplating re opening an account that was just closed. BETAT casino....

 

I was a bit unfair to them. I lost 300 bucks a few months ago on Avalon II and then closed account. Was upset. Avalon II was the problem. Not the casino itself.

 

Can someone please share their experiences with this place. I may be making some changes after next week. I regret my slotobank exclusion. The other forum is to blame for that.

 

So of anyone plays at BETAT please let me know. Do they run other casinos? I think slotty vegas is them? I know they have a UK licence. Any info on these guys would be helpful.

 

You can make it very short..... Luck, Next and Jet are 10/10 for me... Which should I rate BETAT?

 

 

Account is still closed but not excluded from what support told me.... Will not re open unless I decide to change things in a few weeks.

 

Appreciated.

[Jory]

@toiletseat

 

Have you tried E-cigaretts?

 

I had tried them in the past and felt they worked fine. For some reason though, I kept finding myself switching back to normal cigarets.

 

I decided last week to buy one of the new models and I couldn't believe the difference! The hit you get from this is better than any cigarette. I can't see any reason to smoke a normal cigarette ever again.

 

The best part is that it doesn't leave you feeling ill like a normal cigarette, you get the buzz without any of the bad.

 

Next week I am buying one of the high end models. The reviews on such models are all highly rated. Many people who have gone their whole life wanting to quit but never could, then they switch to ecigs and they quit without even having to try.

 

You will still be addicted to nicotine of course, but when you remove all other chemicals and toxins, nicotine on its own does not even feel like a bad addiction, it's actually enjoyable.

 

@Johnny

 

Not long to go now, you've nearly made it.

 

BETAT are one of the best casinos you'll find. I have 100.13% RTP there. They pay fast also, just hope you get some luck first.

[Toiletseat]

@toiletseat

 

Have you tried E-cigaretts?

 

I had tried them in the past and felt they worked fine. For some reason though, I kept finding myself switching back to normal cigarets.

 

I decided last week to buy one of the new models and I couldn't believe the difference! The hit you get from this is better than any cigarette. I can't see any reason to smoke a normal cigarette ever again.

 

The best part is that it doesn't leave you feeling ill like a normal cigarette, you get the buzz without any of the bad.

 

Next week I am buying one of the high end models. The reviews on such models are all highly rated. Many people who have gone their whole life wanting to quit but never could, then they switch to ecigs and they quit without even having to try.

 

You will still be addicted to nicotine of course, but when you remove all other chemicals and toxins, nicotine on its own does not even feel like a bad addiction, it's actually enjoyable.

 

@Johnny

 

Not long to go now, you've nearly made it.

 

BETAT are one of the best casinos you'll find. I have 100.13% RTP there. They pay fast also, just hope you get some luck first.

Yes, I've tried them, and use them very often. Just like you told, allthough you need less cigarettes, you keep on smoking them. But thanks to the e-cig I significantly smoke less tradtional tobacco.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Ty Jory... Betat support is excellent in response to important questions. They are in queue.

 

 

6am wake up on a Sunday???? Brain is relaxed. Go figure!

 

Didn't think PROVEN SYSTEM would not only control my gaming, it is relaxing my brain as well. I can not tell y'all how well I have been sleeping. It's unbelievable. It's crazy.

 

I am stress free. Not a nerveball, no anxiety to game. Just totally relaxed looking forward to tomorrow.

 

Confident in myself and actually happy. Proud to be in charge.

 

I love this stuff. I said it, I planned it and I am literally doing it! Yes!!!!!

[Johnnygotthebone]

It's official. I did it. I did not game all week after I finished playing.

 

Week two was easier than week one.

 

I took necessary measures to protect myself. Everything was done perfectly. Very happy.

 

I was thinking of adding BETAT casino to the FAB. 4 list. Final decision will be made tomorrow morning. Account has been reopened and ready for play. Based on the reviews they deserve a fair chance at my business. They are legit and honest according to one hundred reviews. Although unibet and 32 red are coming up in a couple of weeks I have to decide which four casinos will be played on. It is important to make the right choice.

 

NEXT LUCK JET are 10/10 for me. There is no doubt about this. I need a fourth. PROVEN SYSTEM is based on four casinos. Tomorrow I will probably try BETAT again. I hope I enjoy playing there. Their customer service is just first class. Respectful, informative, efficient and blazing fast. Slotobank exclusion was an error. I blame another forum for that. My fault for believing a couple of losers. They are legit! GO WILD exclusion does not bother me what so ever. I guess my brain is convinced of what I said in earlier posts. I had so many cash outs at GO WILD and so much luck. I do not regret this exclusion. Not for a second.

 

 

So tomorrow. It looks like four deposits. Not 100% sure but leaning to that.

 

 

Even though I won a bit last week, I am going to try something new to format the brain again.

 

I will deposit first thing in the morning and not play until the afternoon. New control discipline. Gotta be in total control. No other way.

 

So in closing... PROVEN SYSTEM has been successful so far. Up 500 I think these last two weeks. Played four hours week two. Lol. Unbelievable. Appreciated the minimal NEXT CaSINO withdrawal as if it was 100k!

 

As serious as I can be..... I have changed. I say a lot of weird things but this is as serious as it gets. I have reAlly changed. There is no doubt about this. If I continue to respect every module and respect myself, then anyone can. Be positive.

[Jory]

Well done Johnny on coming this far.

 

Let's hope you are rewarded with a little bit of luck today.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Ty Jory. All is excellent on my side.

 

How U doing?

[Jory]

All good here.

 

Will be keeping my fingers crossed for you.

 

Won't be playing myself again till Wednesday 1st October (50% reload) nextcasino.

 

I'm just hoping they are not one of the casinos leaving the UK. Been getting a few emails this week about my accounts being closed elsewhere.

[Jory]

Got a reply few seconds after I pressed Post

 

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We have applied for a UK license together with our platforms provider. Until this process is completed and finalized we can, naturally, not say anything with 100% certainty. No license has been issued to any casino as of yet. The UK commission are still finalizing the exact setup.

 

Our plan and goal is to continue serving UK players under a license!

 

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Not sure what this means, I thought the new law was being introduced on 1st October. Maybe someone can advice me were to go to learn more about this issue.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Odd matrix casinos will do everything possible to stay in the UK. No doubt.

[ValDes]

Got a reply few seconds after I pressed Post

 

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We have applied for a UK license together with our platforms provider. Until this process is completed and finalized we can, naturally, not say anything with 100% certainty. No license has been issued to any casino as of yet. The UK commission are still finalizing the exact setup.

 

Our plan and goal is to continue serving UK players under a license!

 

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Not sure what this means, I thought the new law was being introduced on 1st October. Maybe someone can advice me were to go to learn more about this issue.

 

You could check here - UK Gambling Commission to postpone new legislation with a month

[Johnnygotthebone]

Week 3 has begun.........

 

250 Jetbull

250 Casino Luck

250 Next Casino

 

BETAT is on the shelf for now.... 3 will do for now

 

 

Hopefully I can post some good screen shots this week. Stale stale stale week one and two!

 

 

No bonuses were taken.

 

Week three will see something new from me......

 

 

PATIENCE!

[Johnnygotthebone]

Worst performance to day!

 

Capital Fail with a capital F!

 

40 or so minutes. Pathetic!

 

Jetbull went from 225(us) to 100 without a payout. 4 per spin

 

Luck didn't pay on MG games. Lasted 8 minutes at 2.50-4 per spin

 

Next dropped to 80 before 5x payout. Reached 322 and TS II didn't budge.

 

 

Just awful payouts today. And I know why!!!

 

Month end is the worst paying time for casinos. Less players on because everyone is waiting for their 1st of the month cheque to arrive. Next week should be much better.

 

 

Dunno if I will try BETAT this week. Probably get same result!

 

Wow..... Very very bad RTP. Today

[Johnnygotthebone]

Ok.... I decided to give BETAT another chance based on the reviews.

 

I logged in from a PC and as clear as water... RTP 75% for me! Low. Played one time with 150 deposit while I testing out casinos a few months ago. Still I have it a chance today.

 

I put in 200 and decided to take a bonus of 150.... Peaked at 900 now sitting at 500 and 20% bonus has been eaten. I love the feel of this place. So far this tryout is going well. Only played starburst.

 

Gonna try some more low variance games to see how it goes. If I lose, I won't play until next Monday. That is a fact.

 

 

Here are a few """wager requirement""" screenies.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Started well but ended with a loss at BETAT....I won't lie, i did have some fun. They will join the FAB 4 next week.

 

End result for week three.....

 

Casino Luck loss 250

Jetbull loss 250

Betat loss 200

Next Casino loss 250

 

I was not even close to hitting anything today. Just one of those days. A bad run I guess. We all been there where nothing hits no matter what u play.

 

PROVEN SYSTEM stopped me from doing something I would always do before......

 

 

Keep depositing and lose everything because of misery.

 

How many times I have kept depositing and depositng after a beating like this. No more. I have no intention.

 

BETAT has no deposit limit. I can currently buy 1000 dollars worth of Ukash and play in 3 minutes! So eaaaaaazzzzzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyyyyyy to lose control

 

I will chat with them tomorrow about permanent deposit limit. Chat is off now.

 

 

How many times have any of you just kept going and going until u lose it all?? Personally, it was normal for me to do this.

 

I have one bank account for gaming only. Everything else is joint and i wouldn't dare take a penny from it. Wife was clear!

 

I think I have 5500 in that gambling account. Maybe a bit more. Dunno at this second. How tempting it should be for me to play right now.

 

Why am I not depositng? It would only take a few seconds..... Why?

 

Because I had planted the seeds prior to this day. I knew I would have to face days like this, I was mentally prepared. I keep saying the brain controls every action. I won't let gambling rule my life anymore. I am better than that. I am in control. Simple!

 

 

Soooooooooooooo..... After three weeks of play here are PROVEN SYSTEM results...

 

I play less

I don't obsess

I respect every module

I am actually having fun

I sleep better(except tonight

[ValDes]

Worst performance to day!

 

Capital Fail with a capital F!

 

40 or so minutes. Pathetic!

 

Jetbull went from 225(us) to 100 without a payout. 4 per spin

 

Luck didn't pay on MG games. Lasted 8 minutes at 2.50-4 per spin

 

Next dropped to 80 before 5x payout. Reached 322 and TS II didn't budge.

 

 

Just awful payouts today. And I know why!!!

 

Month end is the worst paying time for casinos. Less players on because everyone is waiting for their 1st of the month cheque to arrive. Next week should be much better.

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This might sound logical to you, however it is has nothing to do with the reality! In fact, if you take a look at your own winning screenshots posted here and the dates they were uploaded, you will see yourself that this 'theory' is just a pile of #%^$%^$%^.

[Johnnygotthebone]

, you will see yourself that this 'theory' is just a pile of #%^$%^$%^.

 

Definition of Theory:

1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

 

 

25 plus years gambling of experience. Brick and mortar casinos, race tracks etc are jammed packed in the beginning of the month. Government money to the less fortunate arrives.

 

The more gamblers online, the more active the paylines are.

 

When there are less people like the last few days, payouts will obviously not be the same over all.

 

 

I am confident online gaming is no different than real live gaming.

[Johnnygotthebone]

Hopefully BETAT numbers will rise!

 

Original RTP was at 70% prior to yesterday's deposit. I had some fun though!

 

Until one game just went sour

[catapultaudio]

Definition of Theory:

1. A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.

 

 

25 plus years gambling of experience. Brick and mortar casinos, race tracks etc are jammed packed in the beginning of the month. Government money to the less fortunate arrives.

 

The more gamblers online, the more active the paylines are.

 

When there are less people like the last few days, payouts will obviously not be the same over all.

 

 

I am confident online gaming is no different than real live gaming.

 

So I take it you have applied the definiton quoted above to the evidence ValDes just provided you in order to support your theory? Or, have you just ignored it again in favour of your 'experience' ?? ... Show me some DATA !! Not just garbage suggestions based on nothing.

 

You state your 25 years of experience as if its evidence to support your (ridiculous) assertion, that casinos cheat you at the end of the month. They don't. They don't need to - the odds are in their favour at the beginning, in the middle, AND at the end of the month. And the fact that you've been playing 25 years and STILL haven't familiarised yourself with how these games actually work doesn't exactly give any credence to your system does it ?!

 

Tell me how exactly do they fix the races at the track in order to pay out more at the beginning of the month?! How about the roulette table? The blackjack? Or sports events?

 

Come on please, think about what your saying...

[Johnnygotthebone]

??? What in God's name are you talking about Cat????

 

Read carefully before embarrassing yourself on here....

 

I stated a simple theory.....

 

End of month there is less Players. 1st of the month is when casinos are most busy.

 

The more people playing, the more money casinos make.

 

If a casinos has 10 players on the 28th playing a dollar a spin, and a high roller is betting 10 per spin.... Chances are high roller will not hit.

 

If a casino has 1000 players on the 1st playing a dollar per spin and 100 high rollers betting 10 per spin.... A few of those high roller might hit.

 

 

Common sense! Nothing to do with fixing anything?? It's all common sense. The more people playing the better the chances of hitting!

[Johnnygotthebone]

Cat.... Here is a perfect way to see what I mean.

 

Goto any legitimate online poker site..... Check the players on line on the 26-27-28th of the month and then do the same for 1-2-3-4 etc.... Of the month.

 

There is your data that you want. Go and see yourself. Or walk Into any brick and mortar casino on the 1st of the month. And then go back on the 27th..... Night and day. Common sense. Government assisted less fortunate people who like to gamble flock to these game providers the moment they get their money.

[catapultaudio]

*me* embarrass myself? oh lol.. you do make me laugh mate.

 

"The more people playing, the more money casinos make" - of course, because they end up with the house edge percentage of every bet placed over the long term. It's a simple equation!

 

If a high roller is playing 10 per spin, his chances of winning are in NO WAY affected by anybody else playing at the casino! It doesn't matter if 10, 100 or 1000 other players are betting £1, £10 or £100 per spin, each players odds are independent of each other. To believe otherwise is saying you believe casinos are rigged.

 

What your saying is NOT common sense.. it makes you look ridiculous. The number of people playing has NO effect on any individuals chances of hitting. IT IS RANDOM.

 

As for what you say about poker sites.. casinos etc.. sure, there are MORE PEOPLE playing when they have money in their pocket, but the casinos percentage does not change whatsoever, they take the same cut from every game as they do any other day of the month. The slot machines don't have a clue how much the casino has made that day, in order to adjust how much to pay players (!?!) and to think otherwise is just laughable. Please stop embarrassing yourself!

[Johnnygotthebone]

Lol....

 

Over all theoretical payout is based on game play.

 

If more people are playing, more people are winning and losing.

 

The less people playing means less people winning over a theoretical period of time.

 

I remember back in the day. I would to to my local casino days after the first of the month and make a killing. Why? Because I was winning what they all lost after they blew their monthly pay. Random but with a theoretical RTP over time. It all balances.

 

Example.... I go and lose 50000 today. Wow. Casino just made 50k..... Trust me, In order to keep a theoretical RTP players coming in to play have a good chance to win part of that 50k back. It all balances out.

 

Nothing is rigged Cat, it's all random. 1st of the month there is all kinds of action going on. People playing like crazy.... But the most obvious rules applies """the longer you play, the more u will lose" which means most of this people will go bust. and that's where the balancing steps in.... Playing after they donked it away means better chance of hitting something. The theoretical payout has to balance out. They take and they have to give. People's inability to stop playing fuels my theory.

[catapultaudio]

You are PERFECTLY describing one of the most widely known misconceptions about casino games and gambling in general - its called the "Gamblers Fallacy", the mistaken belief that somehow the world has to balance out previous wins or losses with the opposite results, so that the theoretical RTP will be achieved. Please educate yourself:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy

 

The reason that games do, infact, manage to eventually pay out their intended RTP, is this:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

 

But heres the thing - how could you not have come across the gamblers fallacy by now, if you have playing for over two decades??? I can only guess have, infact, had such mathematics explained to you, but either cannot understand them, or just refuse to accept them for some reason ....

 

If the reel strips and paytable dictate the house edge of a slot machine - just as the board and payouts of roulette dictate the house edge of 2.7percent - please explain what mechanism a casino might use to alter these built in mathematics in order to favour the casino or player on any particular date? They cannot change the reels or the paytable, and the results are random, therefore, what is it they are doing - if its not rigged, as you accept it is not?

[Johnnygotthebone]

Over time a theoretical RTP is established. Nothing is fixed

 

Fallacy doesn't interest me. I am a realist. I speak from experience.