Fruit Shop

[bigdk88]

I call all those slots "sucker" slots lol. Because they are made to just empty your wallet without any hope of a big win. Anyone who plays allot of slots knows you can never,ever win anything decent on those games without betting with some massive high bets.

 

I never play low variance games either. Better to play high risk games and win some massive amounts now and then.

 

If you play slots for entertainment purposes these are the games for you(I personally dont find them entertaining). I think NetEnt makes these kind of games for people who see slots as a form of entertainment and dont really play for the win.

 

And to be honest i think NetEnt has taking a huge stepp in the wrong direction with their recent releases. Slots or any kind of gambling are an expensive type of entertainment and when i chose to spend my money on gambling i like to stand a chance at winning.

 

And all those very low,low, and low medium variance games that NetEnt has been spitting out for the last 2 years are just horrible. And to be honest i find their low variance games to be more volatile than their high variance games... And that makes no sense.... Just try to notice the amount of dead spins on the games mentioned above... Some of those games goes 20-30 dead spins on the regular and they are supposed to be LOW VARIANCE??? Makes my brain hurt lol... Compare that to their high variance games DOA comes to mind.. I seam to get allot of more playtime from DOA than any of those so called low variance games.

 

Basicly its next to impossible to win on any of their low variance games people should realize that and stopp playing them and then maybe NetEnt will start making some good slots again.

It's actually a really good game luckyloser you need patience of a saint for it though. The best way to play it is begin with 30p bets with at least £35 balance when it starts to streak the free spins up your cash gradually I did this last year and won £410 on 1.50 bet.

[ValDes]

I call all those slots "sucker" slots lol. Because they are made to just empty your wallet without any hope of a big win. Anyone who plays allot of slots knows you can never,ever win anything decent on those games without betting with some massive high bets.

 

I never play low variance games either. Better to play high risk games and win some massive amounts now and then.

 

If you play slots for entertainment purposes these are the games for you(I personally dont find them entertaining). I think NetEnt makes these kind of games for people who see slots as a form of entertainment and dont really play for the win.

 

And to be honest i think NetEnt has taking a huge stepp in the wrong direction with their recent releases. Slots or any kind of gambling are an expensive type of entertainment and when i chose to spend my money on gambling i like to stand a chance at winning.

 

And all those very low,low, and low medium variance games that NetEnt has been spitting out for the last 2 years are just horrible. And to be honest i find their low variance games to be more volatile than their high variance games... And that makes no sense.... Just try to notice the amount of dead spins on the games mentioned above... Some of those games goes 20-30 dead spins on the regular and they are supposed to be LOW VARIANCE??? Makes my brain hurt lol... Compare that to their high variance games DOA comes to mind.. I seam to get allot of more playtime from DOA than any of those so called low variance games.

 

Basicly its next to impossible to win on any of their low variance games people should realize that and stopp playing them and then maybe NetEnt will start making some good slots again.

 

Although my opinion in general is almost the same as yours, must point out a couple of important things. 

 

First and most important is that players like you and me count and chase one single win when playing slots which could deliver them the big win! While there are lots and lots of online gamblers who play these low to mid variance slots and count on many small winnings, then quit and start a new session. In a good day they could try 5-10 of these slots in less than a couple of hours and end up with a decent profit. Winning 10 wins of 50 x bet in two hours is definitely an attractive option compared to our sessions, which last for several hours and thousands of spins, often without any win in excess 200-300 x bet.

 

Another key moment is the fact that NetEnt just like every other casino software vendor I guess, could and probably is releasing so called 'game updates' over time. Some of these updates could influence seriously the usual way in which a slot game performs and its paying pattern. Have no proofs for that and the above are just assumptions, but what happened with Gonzo's Quest an year and half ago is a blatant example how the game performance could be significantly changed and you just cannot recognize if that's the same game! I made probably close to half a million spins with that game, so I dare to say I could recognize a change in its paying pattern. My biggest fears though if something similar happens to my beloved Dead Or Alive...

[cocopop3011]

I call all those slots "sucker" slots lol. Because they are made to just empty your wallet without any hope of a big win. Anyone who plays allot of slots knows you can never,ever win anything decent on those games without betting with some massive high bets.

 

I never play low variance games either. Better to play high risk games and win some massive amounts now and then.

 

If you play slots for entertainment purposes these are the games for you(I personally dont find them entertaining). I think NetEnt makes these kind of games for people who see slots as a form of entertainment and dont really play for the win.

 

 

And to be honest i think NetEnt has taking a huge stepp in the wrong direction with their recent releases. Slots or any kind of gambling are an expensive type of entertainment and when i chose to spend my money on gambling i like to stand a chance at winning.

 

And all those very low,low, and low medium variance games that NetEnt has been spitting out for the last 2 years are just horrible. And to be honest i find their low variance games to be more volatile than their high variance games... And that makes no sense.... Just try to notice the amount of dead spins on the games mentioned above... Some of those games goes 20-30 dead spins on the regular and they are supposed to be LOW VARIANCE??? Makes my brain hurt lol... Compare that to their high variance games DOA comes to mind.. I seam to get allot of more playtime from DOA than any of those so called low variance games.

 

Basicly its next to impossible to win on any of their low variance games people should realize that and stopp playing them and then maybe NetEnt will start making some good slots again.

Wow! I am actually quite surprised to hear you say that "anyone of plays slots a lot (which I believe I do) knows that you can never win big from this game without betting big!

 

IMO you are totally wrong! Admittedly you can win HUGE of a minimum bet but bets at £1.50 can bring in some very impressive wins indeed. I know you said unless you are betting big...but by this I assume you mean in excess of a few pounds or more per spin.

 

It is exactly as bigdk said this slot just needs some patience. And it will always be one of my favourite Net Ent slots. It's such a shame you don't like it.

[luckyloser]

Although my opinion in general is almost the same as yours, must point out a couple of important things. 

 

First and most important is that players like you and me count and chase one single win when playing slots which could deliver them the big win! While there are lots and lots of online gamblers who play these low to mid variance slots and count on many small winnings, then quit and start a new session. In a good day they could try 5-10 of these slots in less than a couple of hours and end up with a decent profit. Winning 10 wins of 50 x bet in two hours is definitely an attractive option compared to our sessions, which last for several hours and thousands of spins, often without any win in excess 200-300 x bet.

 

Another key moment is the fact that NetEnt just like every other casino software vendor I guess, could and probably is releasing so called 'game updates' over time. Some of these updates could influence seriously the usual way in which a slot game performs and its paying pattern. Have no proofs for that and the above are just assumptions, but what happened with Gonzo's Quest an year and half ago is a blatant example how the game performance could be significantly changed and you just cannot recognize if that's the same game! I made probably close to half a million spins with that game, so I dare to say I could recognize a change in its paying pattern. My biggest fears though if something similar happens to my beloved Dead Or Alive...

 

I agree with most of the above. Before i "discovered" Dead or alive. I used to play NetEnts other high and medium variance slots. In any session i used to jump around from slot to slot.

 

The key to winning seamed to be to up the bets as my balance got bigger. I won over 10K several time using this tactic. Betting as high as 10!! pr spin. I won 10K on gonzo from a 10 spin, over 10 k on secret of the stones from a 30 spin(was in NOK this is ruffly converted) But then i discovered DOA and the fact that i could bet as low as 0.45 and win over 1K in a spin. And after seeing that 10000x stake win i got i just diddent see the point in playing all the other games as i would have to "risk" much more to win an equal amount(higher bets). Now i play DOA allot and as you all have seen from my threads i have also had some major losses on this game. But i have also had some major wins, and to be honest i think i am actually in profit in my lifetime playing this slot.

 

There are also other NetEnt slots that i have won allot on but it just seams to me its easier to get that big one on DOA than any other slot.

 

Also as you said with the game updates. This is a thing i have also noticed. I used to play Gonzo ALLOT and have had several huge wins on it, but as you said its like its not the same game anymore. I have also seen other people complaining about this in allot of other forums. Also when The Creature from the black lagoone came out. It was very difficult to trigger the freespins, but now it seams way easier to trigger(Maybe the casinos got allot of complaints and they changed it)

 

Also i think they balanced DOA somehow. As it seams to me atleast there is allot more "dead" bonus rounds (3-10x bet) than before. In fact i would say the average bonus round used to pay 25-50x and now it seams to pay 0-10x. And the no wild bonus round that used to be rare as a unicorn seams to trigger for me almost every other session. But on the flipp side it also seams allot easier to get those big wins.. If i play this on the regular every other day i seam to hit some kind of major win on it every other week. But ofcourse as i have seen it can take months. But to me it feels like they have changed something about it.

 

Also as i said their newer games seams to be made in a way that makes winning anything substantial next to impossible. Just take a look at the paytable of the newer games... Its next to robbery. I dont understand why this is even allowed.. There is a huge difference in a slot with 97% RTP with a crappy paytable and a game with 96% RTP and a good paytable... I would take the 96% one every day.

[cocopop3011]

Although my opinion in general is almost the same as yours, must point out a couple of important things. 

 

First and most important is that players like you and me count and chase one single win when playing slots which could deliver them the big win! While there are lots and lots of online gamblers who play these low to mid variance slots and count on many small winnings, then quit and start a new session. In a good day they could try 5-10 of these slots in less than a couple of hours and end up with a decent profit. Winning 10 wins of 50 x bet in two hours is definitely an attractive option compared to our sessions, which last for several hours and thousands of spins, often without any win in excess 200-300 x bet.

 

Another key moment is the fact that NetEnt just like every other casino software vendor I guess, could and probably is releasing so called 'game updates' over time. Some of these updates could influence seriously the usual way in which a slot game performs and its paying pattern. Have no proofs for that and the above are just assumptions, but what happened with Gonzo's Quest an year and half ago is a blatant example how the game performance could be significantly changed and you just cannot recognize if that's the same game! I made probably close to half a million spins with that game, so I dare to say I could recognize a change in its paying pattern. My biggest fears though if something similar happens to my beloved Dead Or Alive...

Excellent points made Valdes and I could not agree more! And I am definitely one of these players!

[luckyloser]

Wow! I am actually quite surprised to hear you say that "anyone of plays slots a lot (which I believe I do) knows that you can never win big from this game without betting big!

 

IMO you are totally wrong! Admittedly you can win HUGE of a minimum bet but bets at £1.50 can bring in some very impressive wins indeed. I know you said unless you are betting big...but by this I assume you mean in excess of a few pounds or more per spin.

 

It is exactly as bigdk said this slot just needs some patience. And it will always be one of my favourite Net Ent slots. It's such a shame you don't like it.

Im sorry, i didd not mean it in that way. What i ment is once you have started to play the higher variance games and have had some good hits on them you start to understand that the paytable on slots like Fruit shop are not built to deliver huge wins. Such as net ents higher variance games.

 

Fore example:

 

Fruit Shops max win is 80 000 coins. Max bet is 150 coins 80 000 / 150 = 533

 

So fruit shops max win in one single spin is 533 x stake.

 

This is simular to starburst where the max possible win is 500x bet. And i have never, ever seen a full screen of bars on starburst. And i doubt anyone has gotten that 533x bet spin on fruit shop.

 

Compare to netents other slots:

 

Wish Masters max win is 900 000 coins. Max bet is 200 coins 900 000 / 200 = 4500

 

Wish masters max win pr spin is 4500x stake!!!!

 

And also compare the amount of dead spins on fruit shop to wish master and you will see they play simular. And id rather risk my money on a game i know i can hit a 4500x bet out of the blue rather than a game that can pay 533 x bet only.

 

Im not trying to be rude to anyone, im just trying to make you see that risking your money on these games if you are looking for a big win is not a good idea.

[cocopop3011]

Im sorry, i didd not mean it in that way. What i ment is once you have started to play the higher variance games and have had some good hits on them you start to understand that the paytable on slots like Fruit shop are not built to deliver huge wins. Such as net ents higher variance games.

Fore example:Fruit Shops max win is 80 000 coins. Max bet is 150 coins 80 000 / 150 = 533So fruit shops max win in one single spin is 533 x stake.

This is simular to starburst where the max possible win is 500x bet. And i have never, ever seen a full screen of bars on starburst. And i doubt anyone has gotten that 533x bet spin on fruit shop.

Compare to netents other slots:Wish Masters max win is 900 000 coins. Max bet is 200 coins 900 000 / 200 = 4500Wish masters max win pr spin is 4500x stake!!!!

And also compare the amount of dead spins on fruit shop to wish master and you will see they play simular. And id rather risk my money on a game i know i can hit a 4500x bet out of the blue rather than a game that can pay 533 x bet only.

Im not trying to be rude to anyone, im just trying to make you see that risking your money on these games if you are looking for a big win is not a good idea.

Aww I know you wasn't be rude! Your points were very valid, I'm just protective of this game hahaha! It's just always been one of my favourites.