Dead or Alive

[ValDes]

I'm a little dubious of the posters in here tbh . . .

 

I finally "won" something. 8600 and some on a .54 after putting in almost $150 (after many such deposits [actually $300 earlier in last day and a half]). So my win came to just under $180. I still haven't hit the 5 wilds (one on each reel).

 

I agree with luckyloser. How is it random winning when you have to invest so much for so little? And giant variance? I'm not sure this is the cause when you put so much in. Giant variance in my books would be if it paid out in the thousands.

 

Yeah, it feels indeed like a rigged game.

 

Statements like this one makes me think you have absolutely no idea what you could expect from a high variance video slot and what could be its behavior in general!  A high variance game and Dead Or Alive in particular which I believe is even ultra high variance game could easily take thousands of spins (most probably tens of thousands) and hundreds of features before producing one of those mega hits, which we are all dreaming and chasing. 

 

Hitting a decent win  of at least 500+ x bet (not even talking about a mega win) with just $150 bucks and considering the bets you use to play DOA would be an insane big luck in my humble opinion. 

[ValDes]

Obviously rigged. Over 20 free spins in a row paid under 10x stake..... Then after another 30 or so bonus rounds i get a 250x bet win and then hold on.......... to zero with just 1 bonus round that paid 10 x......

 

 

Another 104 euro deposit playing at 0.36-0.45 euros. 1 bonus round that paid under 10 x bet. Im officially done playing. I simply do not trust that netent offers a fair game. These sick losses is not within expected variance. What are the odds of such ***** runs every day... So sick im disgusted. I hope one day the truth about online slots comes out and everyone stopps playing these ***** rigged games

 

I just wonder why you didn't say the 'rigged' stuff when you won 10000+ bucks with this game! A rhetorical question though...

 

Have no intentions to argue with an angry gambler as I've been too many times in your shoes and know exactly how frustrating and irritating could be when you just keep losing all the time and all over the places you play a particular game. However, you must realize that we do not tolerate such serious accusations against a reputable company, such as Net Entertainment surely is,  without some valid arguments and proofs. I'm the last one who's gonna defend ANY online casino or gaming software company since I gamble online on a daily basis and my luck is even worse than yours. But there are some borders which should not be crossed when discussing such serious matters like whether a particular company is offering a 'rigged' product to its customers or not. Please, have that in mind next time you decide to throw such harsh words against anyone, being it a software company, which is tested and audited on a regular basis by several independent authorities.  

[luckyloser]

What i ment by the rigged comment is simply that these patterns seams to emerge after every huge hit. Ofcourse i know winning 12k is next to impossible and im not expecting that, but after loosing several thousand euros on mainly 0.45 spins. And thats allot of spins and maybe close to 200 bonus rounds and not seeing a 500 x bet even.. Had one or two around 150-300x bet in close to 200 bonus rounds. High variance or not you gotta agree thats an insanly bad run. I have played almost only Doa for the past year and a half and i have had these sick losing runs sfter every huge hit of 10k+ That just makes me think.. Also on three ocuations after complaining and saying i want to close my account support had talked me into not doing so because luck will change and then next deposite i magicly win allitle back.. Just saying it makes me wonder what do we really know of the online gambling industry and what goes on behind closed doors. Im almost 100% certain they do player profiling and so on

[Oil-man]

So I finally . . . Finally . . . Hit it!!!

 

I dropped my bet to .09 and played forever lol. I actually used my supercharged winnings and it hit with a dollar and change left in my account.

 

$260 on .09 - not bad. All 5 reels hit, finally 7 wins of 5 wilds in a row. Unfortunately only 1 other paying wild on reel 2. But still . . . It works out to 2,889 x bet? Not bad at all!

 

I will say, though, and still . . . It takes an awful lot to get "there." I'm not sure if I want to try it again just yet lol. It might kill me haha.

 

Sorry about the negativity and the ROI seems low for all the gambling I've done (don't worry, hace spent well over a 100K on online slots). But regardless, it was nice to win!

[Afi4wins]

So I finally . . . Finally . . . Hit it!!!

 

I dropped my bet to .09 and played forever lol. I actually used my supercharged winnings and it hit with a dollar and change left in my account.

 

$260 on .09 - not bad. All 5 reels hit, finally 7 wins of 5 wilds in a row. Unfortunately only 1 other paying wild on reel 2. But still . . . It works out to 2,889 x bet? Not bad at all!

 

I will say, though, and still . . . It takes an awful lot to get "there." I'm not sure if I want to try it again just yet lol. It might kill me haha.

 

Sorry about the negativity and the ROI seems low for all the gambling I've done (don't worry, hace spent well over a 100K on online slots). But regardless, it was nice to win!

 

Aaah! There you go Oil-man! Congrats and well done!

 

All it takes to get those 5 wilds on a payline is...as our Guru has kept repeating on many occasions...is persistence and a bit of luck!   Aaaand...with a little bit more of luck...you may even hit it again, with a better win, or a little less...but still yet another hit! Hehehe. Don't give up and keep trying. Persistent players have hit those 5 wilds a few times already...and I'm one of them! 

[luckyloser]

Again lose, lose lose lose lose.... i swear im gonna smash my macbook to pieces on of these days. This game is so dead i cannot belive it. Cannot hit anything at all... 100x bet seams like the same odds as the mega fortune jackpot

[Luciana]

Again lose, lose lose lose lose.... i swear im gonna smash my macbook to pieces on of these days. This game is so dead i cannot belive it. Cannot hit anything at all... 100x bet seams like the same odds as the mega fortune jackpot

 

But why do you keep playing it then?

[bigdk88]

Lucky loser I approach DOA one of two ways Sometimes I'll start with 0.18 and spin until it busts or I go higher and if I go higher I will up it accordingly so usually 0.27 or 0.36 another thing I noticed is sometimes when it is stone cold up your bet it could hit a good 5 I did this last night upped it from 18p to 45p and hit 5 cowboy hats and 4 cowboy hats this took me up over £50. The other approach is more reckless begin with 0.36-0.45 and just spin till you bust or if I get pissed off up it to .90-1.35 that's when I am outta control! LOL Anyway the best approach is the first one and never play more than 1% of your balance at a time so if you have £36 don't bet more than 0.36 Best of luck!! Or the 3rd approach is don't play it at all play other slots and if you are on insane win streak and have say 1,000 to spin with then go on it at 45p-90p bets but be warned it will eat it all if it's rotten know when to walk!  

[Afi4wins]

Again lose, lose lose lose lose.... i swear im gonna smash my macbook to pieces on of these days. This game is so dead i cannot belive it. Cannot hit anything at all... 100x bet seams like the same odds as the mega fortune jackpot

 

Luckyloser, you're not playing at the same casino you won big before, are you?

If you are, I suggest you try playing at another casino where you haven't won on DOA yet. It may work, it may not, but my experience has shown not to play at the same casino after winning big at it.

 

I'm currently trying at 2 other casinos...but without any luck so far...but that's just how the game goes. You can never know when the big win will come...if it does at all...sometimes it just doesn't come!

[luckyloser]

I was playing in diffrent casinos.. Finally hit it again! Two times today actuallt.. I kept stats of the free spins from my latest deposit.. With some notes where strange things happened : 

 

1: 23 x bet

2: Wildline 1733 x bet

3: 55 x bet

4: 44 x bet

5: 8 x bet

6: 202 x bet 

7: 12,5 x bet

8: 7 x bet

9: 14 x bet

10: 8.5 x bet

11: 4,8 x bet

5-600 spins

12: 11.5 x bet

5-700 spins

13: 4 scatters: Wildline 2851 x bet

2 spins

14: 60 x bet

15: 25 x bet

 

I have a screenshot of the first one and a video of the second one halfway trough the bonus round. Will post them later gotta figure out how to edit the video lol...

 

Anyways... Strange how it was unbelivably dead and the i hit it twice within 15 bonus rounds????? Random? hmmm

[luckyloser]

How do i input youtube videos?

[hajnrih]

just copy paste the link adress

[Afi4wins]

I was playing in diffrent casinos.. Finally hit it again! Two times today actuallt.. I kept stats of the free spins from my latest deposit.. With some notes where strange things happened : 

 

1: 23 x bet

2: Wildline 1733 x bet

3: 55 x bet

4: 44 x bet

5: 8 x bet

6: 202 x bet 

7: 12,5 x bet

8: 7 x bet

9: 14 x bet

10: 8.5 x bet

11: 4,8 x bet

5-600 spins

12: 11.5 x bet

5-700 spins

13: 4 scatters: Wildline 2851 x bet

2 spins

14: 60 x bet

15: 25 x bet

 

I have a screenshot of the first one and a video of the second one halfway trough the bonus round. Will post them later gotta figure out how to edit the video lol...

 

Anyways... Strange how it was unbelivably dead and the i hit it twice within 15 bonus rounds????? Random? hmmm

 

Aaaand...here's proof yet again that DOA is a super great game! Despite all your earlier disbeliefs and anger at DOA, it has finally proved you wrong...again???...and even calmed you down now, eh Luckyloser?! Hehehe.   

 

Aaaand...at another casino too...which I believe is the right way of trying to hit those big wins on DOA! 

[luckyloser]

 

 

[marianna.laforgia.58]

How much bet?

[luckyloser]

How much bet?

 

In the video: 4.5 NOK = 0.50 € Win= 12833.5 NOK = 1421.37 €

 

The one i hit 10 features before was: Bet 4.5 NOK = 0.50 € Win 7798.5 NOK = 863.72 €

[Afi4wins]

In the video: 4.5 NOK = 0.50 € Win= 12833.5 NOK = 1421.37 €

 

The one i hit 10 features before was: Bet 4.5 NOK = 0.50 € Win 7798.5 NOK = 863.72 €

 

FANTASTIC!!! 

[Afi4wins]

Dang! Pity the video is blurry...couldn't make out the winning amounts per spin. 

But nice for viewing no doubt! 

 

Hmmm...Buck & Butler is offering a 100% bonus today...and I feel like going hunting already...hahahaha. 

[luckyloser]

Dang! Pity the video is blurry...couldn't make out the winning amounts per spin. 

But nice for viewing no doubt! 

 

Hmmm...Buck & Butler is offering a 100% bonus today...and I feel like going hunting already...hahahaha. 

 

Is it blurry? When i view it its normal.

[Afi4wins]

Is it blurry? When i view it its normal.

 

Eh???!!! Geeees...it was blurry when I viewed it. Don't know about others though...

[ValDes]

Blurry or not, the video is just awesome and the win is even more awesome!

 

But as luckyloser used to say, I think DOA is rigged and that's why it paid so much exactly to him!

[Afi4wins]

Blurry or not, the video is just awesome and the win is even more awesome!

 

But as luckyloser used to say, I think DOA is rigged and that's why it paid so much exactly to him!

 

   

[luckyloser]

Blurry or not, the video is just awesome and the win is even more awesome!

 

But as luckyloser used to say, I think DOA is rigged and that's why it paid so much exactly to him!

Haha   When i said rigged im leaning more towards "compensated" than rigged as in i cant win. Because the bad runs i always have after huge wins seams so weird. Its like it goes totally dead fore weeks sometimes months. Every time..

 

Im not entierly sure how things work, but i doubt that DOA is totally random as in the sence the reels stop at random places. That goes for all slots btw. Maybe it fills up the "jackpot" to a certain point and then someone wins it before it has to fill it back up(the stone cold bad runs). Maybe it has a sett periode it pays out to several people before going dead again.

 

Sometimes i even wonder if betsize even matters. When i hit 5 scatters on 3.60 euros. If i was playing 0.90 euros would i instead have gotten a 10 000 x bet multiple wildline win? Or would i just have gotten the 5 scatters and less money.

 

I have also noticed now,(My two last times) If you get a wildline that pays very low 1000-1500 x bet it is possible it will hit again very soon. I have also seen others post stories like this. Before i used to switch games after i hit the wildline. But now the two last times i have continued playing and hit again. This also makes me think its not random, but pre determined or "compensated" (The winnings where due)

[bigdk88]

3rd moneyline! Only happens on xmas freakin day! Huge win for 27p! lined up with 8 spins remaining!!

[ValDes]

Haha   When i said rigged im leaning more towards "compensated" than rigged as in i cant win. Because the bad runs i always have after huge wins seams so weird. Its like it goes totally dead fore weeks sometimes months. Every time..

 

Im not entierly sure how things work, but i doubt that DOA is totally random as in the sence the reels stop at random places. That goes for all slots btw. Maybe it fills up the "jackpot" to a certain point and then someone wins it before it has to fill it back up(the stone cold bad runs). Maybe it has a sett periode it pays out to several people before going dead again.

 

Sometimes i even wonder if betsize even matters. When i hit 5 scatters on 3.60 euros. If i was playing 0.90 euros would i instead have gotten a 10 000 x bet multiple wildline win? Or would i just have gotten the 5 scatters and less money.

 

I have also noticed now,(My two last times) If you get a wildline that pays very low 1000-1500 x bet it is possible it will hit again very soon. I have also seen others post stories like this. Before i used to switch games after i hit the wildline. But now the two last times i have continued playing and hit again. This also makes me think its not random, but pre determined or "compensated" (The winnings where due)

 

Well, we all want to know how the predefined RTP for a slot game is being achieved by the RNG used from particular software vendor and the amount of spins needed for that. However, I guess we will never learn that, simply because these companies are keeping such information in top secrecy. To be completely honest, if I was on their place, I would most probably do the same.

 

Personally, I think that Dead Or Alive could be perfectly described by just a single sentence - "When it takes, it takes, but when it pays, it pays!"