Afi4wins Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 4 minutes ago, Blackjax said: Today's turn of events are hilarious. The person who was exploiting his luxury of minimum currency value from the past four years is complaining because others are doing the same thing and he cant (for Booming contest). Don't twist and turn bro! I can only play in MYR currency for AG contests, simply because it's my currency at my local casino, and any casino/currency is allowed. You have been playing in your Indian Rupees too, so please dont make unnecessay comments! At other casinos, I always play in USD or EUR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted December 10 Author Share Posted December 10 Okay guys, please now leave the arguments between yourselves to one side while I decide on how to proceed with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 For the coming Pragmatic contest, yes, I can play at my Asian BK8 casino and use 0.20 MYR bets, but if the 0.10 USD/EUR rule comes back into effect, than I have to play with 0.40 MYR bets per spin. Simple as that. For anyone's info, it is only very RECENTLY that I know that BK8 Casino is listed with AG, so I've only use this opportunity once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatzem Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 1 minute ago, Afi4wins said: Don't twist and turn bro! I can only play in MYR currency for AG contests, simply because it's my currency at my local casino, and any casino/currency is allowed. You have been playing in your Indian Rupees too, so please dont make unnecessay comments! At other casinos, I always play in USD or EUR. yeh bro if he playing in rupees he should get his prize in rupees. so rupee players intead of getting 1st 2500 eur/ 2nd 1000 eur / 3rd 750 eur/ 4th 500 eur / 5th 400 eur / 6th-10th 370 eur they get paid in this way. 1st 2500 INR/ 2nd 1000 INR / 3rd 750 INR/ 4th 500 INR / 5th 400 INR / 6th-10th 370 INR Ultras34 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted December 10 Author Share Posted December 10 18 minutes ago, marius1978 said: Something that was probably mentioned already, but you would have to consider intent as well. Me, I played in my own currency, the one I always play in (once the powerhouse currency of the world, now in mere shambles) and these bet amounts were there readily available in my account. I suspected but I didn't know they weren't the same for euros or dollars players. This is why I've also raised my bet size somewhat after this was called out, to the 0.1 equivalent, to make it more in line with the rest of the contestants. (That, and because hitting a 500x on 0.03 feels like a real waste of a good win ) Then there is deliberately looking up how to play in the lowest possible currency, almost demo playing. Now it is starting to look like exploiting. Especially if you line this up in several casinos at once. But hey, it's their sanity... Anyway, most of us will keep spinning non stop all week anyway, be it on 0.01 or 0.2 so we are all on even terms still more or less. The wins will still have to hit. Yes, please don’t worry you’ve not done anything wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Just now, cocopop3011 said: Okay guys, please now leave the arguments between yourselves to one side while I decide on how to proceed with this. NEVER! We will fight........in each and every provider contest available big or small! cocopop3011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted December 10 Author Share Posted December 10 Okay guys. Now I have already asked you all to stop with your tit for tat against each other. So please only comment now if it is adding value to the situation, not making it worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted December 10 Author Share Posted December 10 1 minute ago, Icy said: NEVER! We will fight........in each and every provider contest available big or small! I mean yeah, if you want to face the consequences of breaking forum rules Icy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatzem Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 20 minutes ago, marius1978 said: Something that was probably mentioned already, but you would have to consider intent as well. Me, I played in my own currency, the one I always play in (once the powerhouse currency of the world, now in mere shambles) and these bet amounts were there readily available in my account. I suspected but I didn't know they weren't the same for euros or dollars players. This is why I've also raised my bet size somewhat after this was called out, to the 0.1 equivalent, to make it more in line with the rest of the contestants. (That, and because hitting a 500x on 0.03 feels like a real waste of a good win ) Then there is deliberately looking up how to play in the lowest possible currency, almost demo playing. Now it is starting to look like exploiting. Especially if you line this up in several casinos at once. But hey, it's their sanity... Anyway, most of us will keep spinning non stop all week anyway, be it on 0.01 or 0.2 so we are all on even terms still more or less. The wins will still have to hit. we are not on even terms do you even understand money at all or how currencies work. someone spinning all week on 0.20eur could lose thousands of euros. while someone spinning on 0.01eur per week will be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 4 minutes ago, Icy said: NEVER! We will fight........in each and every provider contest available big or small! The time has come for a completely fair rule to be implemented and put into effect! Then no one have any excuse to fight anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted December 10 Author Share Posted December 10 21 minutes ago, Icy said: That's an expensive rule! It wouldn't be fair to the members who already have a fiat currency locked into their casino accounts. We need a different rule that caresses everyones needs. Btw, am I the only one seeing members double-spacing on their comments? Please can you elaborate on this - I am trying to hear off everyone how it would effect them in their currency if I was to impose this rule. Obviously I use GBP so using EUR or USD wouldn’t be unfair for me at all. Could you explain how that would be unfair in your currency to give me a better explanation please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjax Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 4 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said: Okay guys. Now I have already asked you all to stop with your ***** for tat against each other. So please only comment now if it is adding value to the situation, not making it worse. The minimum bet thing can be solved in two ways. First implemented by provider, like how Bragg has done it. Second by having a rule like fixed currency- Eur- USD. If people cannot play in above currencies then the currency conversion comes into play and a little up and down should be accepted. For instance if minimum bet in Euro is 10 cents and if the person is playing in a currency whose euro conversion is 0.9 its acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted December 10 Author Share Posted December 10 What is the minimum bet for each game in EUR please? 0.20 EUR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatzem Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Just now, cocopop3011 said: What is the minimum bet for each game in EUR please? 0.20 EUR? holly jolly bonanza 1 and 2 both are min bet 0.20 eur.. and holly jolly cash pig is min bet 0.30 eur and let it spin is min bet 0.30 eur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said: What is the minimum bet for each game in EUR please? 0.20 EUR? Naaaaaah! It's still 0.10 bet per spin, or 0.20, depending on the game. Casinos regard bets in USD as equivalent to EUR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjax Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 1 minute ago, cocopop3011 said: What is the minimum bet for each game in EUR please? 0.20 EUR? Holly jolly bonanza-20 cents. Holly jolly bonanza 2 - 20 cents Let it spin - 30 cents Holly jolly cash pig - 30 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjax Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 @cocopop3011 can I suggest something? It may turn out to be controversial but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatzem Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 2 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said: What is the minimum bet for each game in EUR please? 0.20 EUR? on Monday I did just under 200 spins on Holly Jolly Bonanza on 0.20e per spin and lost 22 EUR ! that's how expensive these games are if you are playing in euros. on Holly Jolly Bonanza 2 I did just over 100 spins at 0.20eur per spin and lost 8 EUR! if I was playing them at 1cent per spin I would have only lost tiny amounts of 1.10eur and 0.40e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Some casinos use only 1 currency, which is EUR, so every player must play in EUR. No other currencies allowed, and need to be converted into EUR first (done by casino). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiekie247 Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 Yeah I am down $250 euro in deposits as wel so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted December 10 Author Share Posted December 10 15 minutes ago, Blackjax said: @cocopop3011 can I suggest something? It may turn out to be controversial but still. Absolutely you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius1978 Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 23 minutes ago, Flatzem said: we are not on even terms do you even understand money at all or how currencies work. someone spinning all week on 0.20eur could lose thousands of euros. while someone spinning on 0.01eur per week will be just fine. We are on even terms as in everyone spins away within their budget, your dramatic example would disqualify the contestant for playing financially irresponsibly. This we all agree on when signing up for these contests. Also, why am I even seeing your messages? Didn't I put you on ignore once you started sending me these weird, creepy pm's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjax Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 7 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said: Absolutely you can. Ok. So remove €2000 from the contest. Close the contest today or tomorrow. Create a prize pool from that €2000. Then implement the minimum bet rule and start contest in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icy Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 6 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said: I mean yeah, if you want to face the consequences of breaking forum rules 10 years, 20 years? It seems so tempting for me to be the most naughty Icy. I did it for Valdes I might as well do it for you.......as an old friend. You need to experience that for a first time mod! 5 minutes ago, Afi4wins said: The time has come for a completely fair rule to be implemented and put into effect! Then no one have any excuse to fight anymore. Agreed! Something we all can come to meet an agreement with. 5 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said: Please can you elaborate on this - I am trying to hear off everyone how it would effect them in their currency if I was to impose this rule. Obviously I use GBP so using EUR or USD wouldn’t be unfair for me at all. Could you explain how that would be unfair in your currency to give me a better explanation please Oh most fair British lady of sensual charms, $0.20 CAD would be: $0.14 in USD costing me $0.28 CAD $0.13 in EUR costing me $0.29 CAD $0.11 in your GBP costing me $0.36 CAD which is almost twice the minimum it costs me in CAD to meet your expensive good looking pounds currency. The cost multiplies up when betting more than the minimum. Now I don't mind spending CAD to receive CAD prizes but we've gone over this to waive the fees for Skrill. Receiving EUR is an advantage for all members who don't use EUR or anything that's not valued as high as EUR. I love you though for this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marius1978 Posted December 10 Share Posted December 10 34 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said: Okay guys. Now I have already asked you all to stop with your ***** for tat against each other. So please only comment now if it is adding value to the situation, not making it worse. Sorry, didn't see this. Apologies for the last message, you may delete it. Still, the point about responsible gaming should stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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