RazorX Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Greetings Community , Just recently and I've considered this for a while I noticed yet another strange behavior exhibiting in the form of different reels continuing to spin at random when others had stopped strangely enough when the slot was starting to hit as if it was trying to somehow force a game reset : its gotten so bad that I'm actually set up with Camtasia now I mean the irony is just far too compelling to be overlooked and should be scrutinised gamblers deserve a fair go and I think this nonsense has gone on for long enough . I mean its not enough that we now have to endure this ridiculous decision by Malta to lower RTP standards for reasons Unknown certainly not in the interests of players more in the interests of attracting more casino's be they operations with questionable practices come one and all I tell you now it will have the opposite effect like someone staring a rubbish pile next to ones house : the stench tends to drive people away and casino's in good standing now have to deal with that stench now hanging over the jurisdiction . But all the game updates that we didn't ask for the strange game behavior around win streaks I keep hearing people talking about evidence well ....your going to have more than you can deal with coming to a you tube channel near you can tell you now the game I'm discussing is Piggy Riches Megaways and that ...is just one ..... I remember years ago without naming the casino (at this point I'm considering it) I was on a jackpot wheel and 100 percent sober and drinking green tea which I do to be a healthy mind as chance does favor the prepared mind. Basically came to a wheel all Ill say at this point is it was a comic book hero theme and the top prize was 3.5 million usd ....well that wheel slowed down tick , tick , tick , .........tick ........tick........tick.................................................tick but wait there's more TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK and no I'm not making this up I was cheated out of 3.5 mil the only thing that saved these guys was the fact I didn't have video footage and when it happened i was taken aback and before I realised the gravity was too late to hit the screenshot so .....lets just say I have a "Unique" Understanding of how things work with slot games . Also I encourage others to record their sessions especially if their playing with considerable bank rolls screenshots minimum . Afi4wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Yes mate, I would also say that I've been getting lots of unexpected 'lags' from my few favourite games since a few months back, something which seldom happened before, so I figured the games were responding to AI manipulations and that's causing the lags. Of late, all I can say is that all my favourite games have shown a noticeable drop in performance and payouts...so things are indeed getting worse for slot games day by day! RazorX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorX Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 Their going to have to start giving up bonuses a bit more often in the Malta Jurisdiction its bad enough with the lowered percentage and this lag nonsense and strange game behavior I'm only noticing it only noticing it on certain places would you please but my guards up be prepared out there if your upto dirty tricks wolfs gonna take a bite . I mean a lot of places are seriously legit and don't have issues like this but finding one is like finding a needle in a haystack these days .... I mean seriously which casino do you consider safe these days ? theories ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 minute ago, RazorX said: Their going to have to start giving up bonuses a bit more often in the Malta Jurisdiction its bad enough with the lowered percentage and this lag nonsense and strange game behavior I'm only noticing it only noticing it on certain places would you please but my guards up be prepared out there if your upto dirty tricks wolfs gonna take a bite . I mean a lot of places are seriously legit and don't have issues like this but finding one is like finding a needle in a haystack these days .... I mean seriously which casino do you consider safe these days ? theories ? IMPO, no casino can be an exception, because the AI can be installed by the games provider, or by any casino, or by both, to get improvements to their cashflow managements. However, each AI may have different configurations and purposes, so some casinos may still perform okay than others. At this moment in time, I cannot say which casino is better, or which is worse, but all of them have shown changes in performances and payouts, and I'm only referring to my listed Dama, N1 Interactive and Highweb casinos. as I don't play at any other operator/owner casinos. RazorX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjax Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 11 hours ago, RazorX said: Greetings Community , Just recently and I've considered this for a while I noticed yet another strange behavior exhibiting in the form of different reels continuing to Spin at random when others had stopped strangely enough when the slot was starting to hit as if it was trying to somehow force a game reset : its gotten so bad that I'm actually set up with Camtasia now I mean the irony is just far too compelling to be overlooked and should be scrutinised gamblers deserve a fair go and I think this nonsense has gone on for long enough . I mean its not enough that we now have to endure this ridiculous decision by Malta to lower RTP standards for reasons Unknown certainly not in the interests of players more in the interests of attracting more casino's be they operations with questionable practices come one and all I tell you now it will have the opposite effect like someone staring a rubbish pile next to ones house : the stench tends to drive people away and casino's in good standing now have to deal with that stench now hanging over the jurisdiction . But all the game updates that we didn't ask for the strange game behavior around win streaks I keep hearing people talking about evidence well ....your going to have more than you can deal with coming to a you tube channel near you can tell you now the game I'm discussing is Piggy Riches Megaways and that ...is just one ..... I remember years ago without naming the casino (at this point I'm considering it) I was on a jackpot wheel and 100 percent sober and drinking green tea which I do to be a healthy mind as chance does favor the prepared mind. Basically came to a wheel all Ill say at this point is it was a comic book hero theme and the top prize was 3.5 million usd ....well that wheel slowed down tick , tick , tick , .........tick ........tick........tick.................................................tick but wait there's more TICK TICK TICK TICK TICK and no I'm not making this up I was cheated out of 3.5 mil the only thing that saved these guys was the fact I didn't have video footage and when it happened i was taken aback and before I realised the gravity was too late to hit the screenshot so .....lets just say I have a "Unique" Understanding of how things work with Slot Games . Also I encourage others to record their sessions especially if their playing with considerable bank rolls screenshots minimum . Are you assuming that a lag or slow spinning of reels is avoiding you to get big wins? The way you mentioned about that wheel thing saying it was about to land on 3.5 million and it did not it looks like you are. The thing with slots is that even before the slots or a jackpot wheel stops your payout is already decided. Infact the slot payout is decided the instant you hit spin button. The spinning of reels is just drama. Look at this way, you take a calculator and add 2+2 and hit the = sign and before showing it to someone you do a dance move for 5 seconds. Thats it. That is what these spinning of reels mean. So the lag does not affect your final payout. It does ruin your experience which is annoying and can take spoil your experience. You can check this on Red Tiger slots where if you play on a PC you can see the in game balance and main site balance and every time you get a bonus or pick feature the money on main balance updates even before the bonus has begun. Similarly if you play megaways slots and you get first hit and if you go to bets history and reload the page you can see how much it pays even before the cascade feature ends. When you hit the spin on your jackpot wheel it was already decided what you were going to win. Apart from this most picking slots are predetermined apart from Push gaming and BTG from what I have heard. Regarding suggestions I would agree with Afi on N1 and dama. And if you do try Dama casinos stay away from PlayNGo slots. RazorX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorX Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Blackjax said: Are you assuming that a lag or slow spinning of reels is avoiding you to get big wins? The way you mentioned about that wheel thing saying it was about to land on 3.5 million and it did not it looks like you are. The thing with slots is that even before the slots or a jackpot wheel stops your payout is already decided. Infact the slot payout is decided the instant you hit Spin button. The spinning of reels is just drama. Look at this way, you take a calculator and add 2+2 and hit the = sign and before showing it to someone you do a dance move for 5 seconds. Thats it. That is what these spinning of reels mean. So the lag does not affect your final payout. It does ruin your experience which is annoying and can take spoil your experience. You can check this on Red Tiger slots where if you play on a PC you can see the in game balance and main site balance and every time you get a bonus or pick feature the money on main balance updates even before the bonus has begun. Similarly if you play megaways slots and you get first hit and if you go to bets history and reload the page you can see how much it pays even before the cascade feature ends. When you hit the spin on your jackpot wheel it was already decided what you were going to win. Apart from this most picking slots are predetermined apart from Push gaming and BTG from what I have heard. Regarding suggestions I would agree with Afi on N1 and dama. And if you do try Dama casinos stay away from PlayNGo slots. Hey BLackjax , The predetermination of program logic is variable and I'm not convinced 100 percent that everything is perfect and legitimate as a rule of thumb as it was made by a human and can be engineered to alter predetermination : the behavioral patterns that I have seen are consistent with something of a rogue nature always in win streaks the data stacks up and reinforces the logic and this is after a lot and I mean a lot of data gathering . As to the wheel the con to the server was fine it was flowing smoothly it was a nice sunny day outside and the wheel seriously stopped on the silver square (the grand jackpot) then sped up again as to why god only knows wouldn't mind taking a peak in his log book sometime ill admit :) . N1 and Dama ok guys ill try those out avoid PlayNGo roger that ! . Peace ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinnit2015 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I would hardly call it as being cheating of 3.5million: no different to the VS wheels where it almost trickles past the Jackpot segment or seems to gather pace as it stops: bit like slots; all smoke and mirrors, bells and whistles. Making it sound like you won it and didn't get it, which is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinnit2015 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 All for scepticism (i do a job where it's required) but over the years, including here, there's a lot of people passing opinion on mechanics off as almost fact when, in truth, they know as much as me: which is zero. Like many things, the truth is likely in the middle See people go on runs, for weeks and it's s'all good-man, but they hit two weeks of poor play and all of a sudden it's a conspiracy etc. Rinse and repeat. ValDes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatzem Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 couldn't start a new topic (some bob the builder is blocking it) so will put it in here in the meantime. but this topic does relate to strange slot behavior.. some slots just refuse to give me a bonus and one of those for me is Drive Multiplier Mayhem, (RTP so far 63% and down 251x) I have done so many sessions on it and it refuses to give those 3 scatters, I don't know what to do with it but I keep going back to it to try get that first ever bonus... it's driving me crazy.. gives those 2 scatters but misses the third.. I have placed it into the ban list category but I sometimes break that rule and attempt to get that first bonus... tried again today and it cost me another 113x. (I threw another 240 spins at it this session).. some slots you can get a bonus in less than 100 spins or less but this slot is just being so stubborn. some slots were not made for some players while others one can do well on. do you have any slots that you have never been able to get a bonus on for some strange reason? other mentions; Diamond Mine Megaways took 1509 spins to give me the first bonus (only paid 54.5x) (that's to be expected with those megaways tho and base game can make up for it while you wait for the bonus but on DriveMultiplierMayhem the base game sux) wait a minute Drive Multiplier Mayhem = DMM , Diamond Mine Megaways = DMM... both are DMM's and both took ages to give a bonus (well one of them did so far) Megaways Jack took 338 spins for it to be a very lame 18x. Pirate Kingdom Megaways took 418 spins for it to be a lame 42.5x. Beetlejuice Megaways took 596 spins for it to be a 88.6x. Rick & Morty Megaways 347 spins and no bonus yet. RTP so far 64% and down -125xBet Dazzle Me Megaways 378 spins and no bonus yet. RTP so far 54% and down -175xBet Gonzo's Quest Megaways 225 spins and no bonus yet. RTP so far 40% and down -135xBet Blackjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorX Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 19 hours ago, pinnit2015 said: I would hardly call it as being cheating of 3.5million: no different to the VS wheels where it almost trickles past the Jackpot segment or seems to gather pace as it stops: bit like slots; all smoke and mirrors, bells and whistles. Making it sound like you won it and didn't get it, which is not the case. Everyone is entitled to their opinion that's your opinion I know what I seen and it settles in my mind I'm not making it sound like it actually happened it stopped and started ticking again but without the video footage its all for naught no smoke and mirrors just straight up in your face truth argue as you will your assuming you know what your talking about ignorance is bliss good luck with that . And while im at ill throw a bone it was Batman the Dark Knight MGS . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry West Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 I have not yet had such a problem, but think that in such cases you need to write to the technical support service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatzem Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Drive Multiplier Mayhem has finally given me a feature and paid just 35.3x (not even a worthy screenshot) on 11th spin in todays session (overall it took a total of 688 spins). All spins were at 0.30 stake.. thus RTP is now at 67.10% for a loss of 226x. It goes on the do not play list and stay there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Flatzem said: Drive Multiplier Mayhem has finally given me a feature and paid just 35.3x (not even a worthy screenshot) on 11th Spin in todays session (overall it took a total of 688 spins). All spins were at 0.30 stake.. thus RTP is now at 67.10% for a loss of 226x. It goes on the do not play list and stay there. Hope so it stays that way bro! I have avoided playing that game for over 2 years now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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