Are MGA license authority lowering RTPs requirement?

[ValDes]

Those interested to find out how the official regulatory bodies are handling the RTP min threshold matter could find all the relevant info in the document below.

https://www.mga.org.mt/wp-content/uploads/Policy-Paper-on-Amending-the-Return-to-Player-Minimum-Percentage.pdf

[Blackjax]

Yeah. In the mean time I found a process by which I can see RTP of slots. Till now I have only tried Play n go slot. I am surprised to see a lot of Curacao casinos having 96% RTP.

[Afi4wins]

45 minutes ago, Blackjax said:

Yeah. In the mean time I found a process by which I can see RTP of slots. Till now I have only tried Play n go slot. I am surprised to see a lot of Curacao Casinos having 96% RTP.

Are you talking about slots (T)RTPs or the current RTPs at casinos? They're not the same!

[Blackjax]

Current RTP of slots at a casino. Give me a casino name and I will check for you. If i have an account at that casino 

[Afi4wins]

15 minutes ago, Blackjax said:

Current RTP of slots at a casino. Give me a casino name and I will check for you. If i have an account at that casino 

Not necessary bro, but thanks anyway. RTPs mean nothing to me! They don't tell me if that slot is going to give me a win or not, even if the current RTP shows 70% or whatever. The only effective way for me is to get a good feel of the game, by seeing how that game behaves during my play, and predicting when it can start to pay back. That's what they call knowing your game well.

[Fiekie247]

1 hour ago, Afi4wins said:

Not necessary bro, but thanks anyway. RTPs mean nothing to me! They don't tell me if that slot is going to give me a win or not, even if the current RTP shows 70% or whatever. The only effective way for me is to get a good feel of the game, by seeing how that game behaves during my play, and predicting when it can start to pay back. That's what they call knowing your game well.

Do you trust HighWeb Ventures forecast on any slot?

You know when you play a game at the top it suggest the Big Wins forecast lol!

 

[Afi4wins]

55 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said:

Do you trust HighWeb Ventures forecast on any slot?

You know when you play a game at the top it suggest the Big Wins forecast lol!

 

No, I don't totally trust any of that Big Win indicator, nor any RTP indicator either. But I take that indicator as an indication of what to expect if I do play the game. And know what? I played a game when the indicator showed COLD...and the  game was literally dead! I played a game that it was neither cold nor hot...it played not too badly. I played a game that showed hot, and that's when I got those nice big wins at $1 bets!!!

To trust that indicator or not, it's entirely up to you bro...I look at it only as a guide. The actual game play itself tells me when to play with small bets or bigger bets. 

[Fiekie247]

I find it amazing, I once played at another casino and as you level up and get rewarded with potions, that activate 50% higher wins, or 50 chances or bonus etc.

What bull is that lol.

[Blackjax]

I deposited CAD 225 in pinocasino on sunday with 100% bonus. Lost it all. Netents and elk have gone dead. NLC not paying. Why MGA? Why......?

[Afi4wins]

1 hour ago, Blackjax said:

I deposited CAD 225 in pinocasino on sunday with 100% bonus. Lost it all. Netents and elk have gone dead. NLC not paying. Why MGA? Why......?

NetEnt...Elk...NLC...I thought you know that these are money eaters nowadays?! 

[RazorX]

On 6/1/2021 at 12:39 AM, pinnit2015 said:

MGA care so much for players they have approved this: what a joke, same as the UKGC

Liked this comment: a consultation, asking casinos and providers: would you like to earn more?  No Sh@@ Sherlock. 

Wouldn't necessarily equate dodgy with low RTP: look at Video Slots, they bottom every flexi RTP and even have scratchcards on 50% etc.

Wonder how they marry RG with this as well

The UK has no minimum and unlikely they'll implement one, despite caring very deeply for players

 

 

has the RTP been lowered yet ?  I'm starting to see some shocking runs lately ....one of the reasons I play online is because the RTP is higher than the land based casino's here in NZ but if the percentage is lowering in general in Malta that's a shame nice shiny jurisdiction like that lowering its standards : Guy I know said that they treat Casino's with Kid Gloves Over there in Malta some kind of Tax Break or Incentive to Establish there . 

Lowering the RTP just means one thing to me lowering standards to make a quick buck I'm fast becoming critical of Places without Auditing and Percentages lower than 95 

end of the day as players our bucks count and more bang to the buck is the truth among the muck . 

 

I'll make no illusion that things are questionable with the slot world at the moment I've never seen conditions like this I mean its one thing that their updating games and 

doing stuff to make them "better" I just wish they would stop messing with a good thing some things should just never be updated like a Shelby-Cobra they will tell you everything under the sun why they do it ...its done to lower the payouts and its done quite cunningly oh sure the bells and whistles look fancy but many aren't impressed including me all these many line games high variance garbage big time money chewing megaways games etc . 

 

[Afi4wins]

Malta licensed casinos aren't the only ones affected by this sheety move mate. My favourite Curacao casinos, and even my favourite Asian casino, has been performing drastically more worse than before. My latest sheety encounter was at Highweb casinos, especially on Gamomat games.

The pandemic and casinos becoming more greedier seem to go hand in hand!

[kayenne23]

To be honest, I believe that this must change since it gives the casino additional unfair advantage. MGA has been good in the early years but now it seems to be making greedy moves. I would love to hear @ValDesopinion on this matter. With that concept casinos may even end  offering 40% RTP. (In that case I'd rather start betting on NBA and football)

here is an observation I made recently. Red tiger games. When I play them with the jackpot running, the RTP is one of the lowest I have ever encountered along with doa2

[Blackjax]

I know that 40% remark is in sarcasam but just saying that the lowest RTP decided by MGA now is 92%

[kayenne23]

1 hour ago, Blackjax said:

I know that 40% remark is in sarcasam but just saying that the lowest RTP decided by MGA now is 92%

Of course it is! 

[ValDes]

4 hours ago, kayenne23 said:

To be honest, I believe that this must change since it gives the casino additional unfair advantage. MGA has been good in the early years but now it seems to be making greedy moves. I would love to hear @ValDesopinion on this matter. With that concept casinos may even end  offering 40% RTP. (In that case I'd rather start betting on NBA and football)

here is an observation I made recently. Red tiger games. When I play them with the jackpot running, the RTP is one of the lowest I have ever encountered along with doa2

Honestly mate, have no clue what's following now... I mean, things could easily go both directions; either most operators will do the right thing and reduce their RTP sets as min as possible in order to keep their players OR they will choose the path of greed which we all know how and where will end up...

For what is worth, having a meeting with the owners of one of the N1 Interactive licensed casinos and will definitely insist to get some 'inside' info.  Will keep you posted.  

[kayenne23]

6 minutes ago, ValDes said:

Honestly mate, have no clue what's following now... I mean, things could easily go both directions; either most operators will do the right thing and reduce their RTP sets as min as possible in order to keep their players OR they will choose the path of greed which we all know how and where will end up...

For what is worth, having a meeting with the owners of one of the N1 Interactive licensed casinos and will definitely insist to get some 'inside' info.  Will keep you posted.  

Thank man for the info! I will be waiting for this! I would also love to hear about the N1 limited Greece and the ideas of expansion! 

[Blackjax]

Its been one month since MGA passed the new regulations and I decided to check if my favorite N1 casinos have lowered their RTP or not and it turns out that RTP on most of their games is 96% on  PlayNGo's.

[Afi4wins]

Even if Book Of Dead has a 98% RTP I won't play that blardy game! It really is a dead game, regardless of its stated RTP!

[Fiekie247]

8 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

Even if Book Of Dead has a 98% RTP I won't play that blardy game! It really is a dead game, regardless of its stated RTP!

Daammmnn straight!

Any of slot with extra scatter or with the word Dead at the end from Play 'n Go, I stay away from them. I cannot win big in any boom, Doom, legacy of dead slots - Just to bonus this slot takes forever. 

[Blackjax]

I lost 100  USD today on a Dama NV casino. Only on book of dead. Started with 10 cent spins then 20 cent spins. No bonus for 600 spins. Lost all. They had 94% RTP.

[Afi4wins]

1 hour ago, Blackjax said:

I Lost 100  USD today on a Dama NV casino. Only on book of dead. Started with 10 cent spins then 20 cent spins. No bonus for 600 spins. Lost all. They had 94% RTP.

Oh gees bro...I told you it's a dead game, so why did you go and play it still? Lost your $100 all for nothing.  

You'd probably have gotten a much better play on a Gamomat game, but maybe not either, considering that Gamomat games have also been playing almost dead recently. I haven't retested them for several days now, maybe not in some more days.

[RazorX]

On 7/4/2021 at 3:29 AM, Blackjax said:

I Lost 100  USD today on a Dama NV casino. Only on book of dead. Started with 10 cent spins then 20 cent spins. No bonus for 600 spins. Lost all. They had 94% RTP.

Try Altering your regular strategy each time and possibly use acid testing ten to twenty spins if it doesn't hit more than likely it won't have to consider many factor including 

the A.I control of the software be random be unpredictable and lets see how it analyses that I've had some random success if it hangs with a pause restart the game (quickly) 

just to "clear" the "internet hanging" the results can be random . 

[Afi4wins]

12 minutes ago, RazorX said:

Try Altering your regular strategy each time and possibly use acid testing ten to twenty spins if it doesn't hit more than likely it won't have to consider many factor including 

the A.I control of the software be random be unpredictable and lets see how it analyses that I've had some random success if it hangs with a pause restart the game (quickly) 

just to "clear" the "internet hanging" the results can be random . 

Agree there mate. There may be an AI controlling the game, but don't ever let that control your intelligence! Always find different ways to beat that blardy AI! 

[Blackjax]

21 minutes ago, RazorX said:

Try Altering your regular strategy each time and possibly use acid testing ten to twenty spins if it doesn't hit more than likely it won't have to consider many factor including 

the A.I control of the software be random be unpredictable and lets see how it analyses that I've had some random success if it hangs with a pause restart the game (quickly) 

just to "clear" the "internet hanging" the results can be random . 

Every time I try any book game I raise bet after spins 300. I start with 10 cent bets then after 300 20 cent and then after 300 more 30 cent. Play n go can take 800 to 900 spins on their games to trigger bonus. After i hit bonus I dont lower bet. I keep doing the raise stategy after 300. Maybe thats the problem. But sometimes it works.