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it seems some sites have ruined the way bonuses should be,

there is a site that if you claim a bonus , you first have to stake 30xBonus before you can start to use a bonus

and then before you can withdraw the bonus you have to stake a further settled stakes of 30xBonus.

what is this crazyness ?????????? what happened to the days of making a deposit and getting a 100% bonus or more and then you would have a cash balance and bonus balance ready to use.... usually you would first be using your cash balance before it dipped into the bonus balance, sometimes sites will stake 50% of cash and 50% bonus......... but this is crazy.... making a deposit and then they want a 30xBonus wagering BEFORE you get any bonus to use......

BRING back the way bonuses used to be....  give us the bonus straight away. e.g if you deposit 100e you should have 200e to work with ! and then stake 30xBonus , while using the 200e.........

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3 hours ago, Flatzem said:

it seems some sites have ruined the way bonuses should be,

there is a site that if you claim a bonus , you first have to stake 30xBonus before you can start to use a bonus

and then before you can withdraw the bonus you have to stake a further settled stakes of 30xBonus.

what is this crazyness ?????????? what happened to the days of making a deposit and getting a 100% bonus or more and then you would have a cash balance and bonus balance ready to use.... usually you would first be using your cash balance before it dipped into the bonus balance, sometimes sites will stake 50% of cash and 50% bonus......... but this is crazy.... making a deposit and then they want a 30xBonus wagering BEFORE you get any bonus to use......

BRING back the way bonuses used to be....  give us the bonus straight away. e.g if you deposit 100e you should have 200e to work with ! and then stake 30xBonus , while using the 200e.........

What!! So how does that work....say you deposit £20 you have to complete the wagering with just the £20 and not the £20 bonus too? Seems absurd!

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There are (or were) some casinos that give the bonus money in portions of 10 EUR/USD cash (converted, no longer bonus money) after wagering a certain amount (can't remember which casinos because I simply hate this sort of bonuses). Meaning, you make a deposit, play with your real money first, reach a certain amount of wagering, then get the first portion of 10 EUR/USD in real cash. Some liked this sort of bonus. I find it totally ridiculous!

Now what Flatzem mentions above takes the cake! Complete the wagering in total first, then only get the bonus money in cash. STUPID BONUS SYSTEM!!!

The only reason why players want to take up bonuses is to have a bigger starting balance to play with, and play with bigger bets too. If I'm playing with my real money right from the start, why bother with taking up any bonus, right?

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2 hours ago, cocopop3011 said:

What!! So how does that work....say you deposit £20 you have to complete the wagering with just the £20 and not the £20 bonus too? Seems absurd!

 basically they want you to keep depositing more money (if required) until you have staked the £20 x Bonus = £600 amount.... and then they will give you a £20 bonus placed into the bonus balance but then you will have to stake another £600 before you can withdraw the bonus. It is ridiculous.

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15 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

There are (or were) some casinos that give the bonus money in portions of 10 EUR/USD cash (converted, no longer bonus money) after wagering a certain amount (can't remember which casinos because I simply hate this sort of bonuses). Meaning, you make a deposit, play with your real money first, reach a certain amount of wagering, then get the first portion of 10 EUR/USD in real cash. Some liked this sort of bonus. I find it totally ridiculous!

Now what Flatzem mentions above takes the cake! Complete the wagering in total first, then only get the bonus money in cash. STUPID BONUS SYSTEM!!!

The only reason why players want to take up bonuses is to have a bigger starting balance to play with, and play with bigger bets too. If I'm playing with my real money right from the start, why bother with taking up any bonus, right?

but they want you to complete the wagering twice, ONCE before the bonus gets credit, and then a SECOND time to withdraw the bonus.. so you might actually need to deposit several times before you get the bonus because you may (most likely) bust out your initial deposit/transfer.  You can withdraw winnings any time during the wagering, but once you have the bonus balance you need to stake the 30xBonus amount again before they let you get the bonus amount moved into the withdrawable cash balance.

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1 hour ago, Flatzem said:

but they want you to complete the wagering twice, ONCE before the bonus gets credit, and then a SECOND time to withdraw the bonus.. so you might actually need to deposit several times before you get the bonus because you may (most likely) bust out your initial deposit/transfer.  You can withdraw winnings any time during the wagering, but once you have the bonus balance you need to stake the 30xBonus amount again before they Let you get the bonus amount moved into the withdrawable cash balance.

That is DOUBLE INSANITY! The casino is obviously trying to recover their lost revenues (sports betting) during the pandemic at twice the speed now, or the guys running that casino have gone completely bonkers! I've never liked that casino anyway...never played there either.

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I gave up on bonuses when this happened. I started playing and had a little win. When I checked the amount I could withdraw it was less than my cash deposit plus the winnings. So I was playing money from my cash deposit and the casino was considering any winning from that to be bonus winning which I could not  claim straight away.  Didn't seem right to me.  Fortunately I found out early when it didn't matter so much but if I had won something quite substantial I would have been pissed off if I couldn't withdraw it straight away. I cancelled the bonus and haven't taken any more after that.

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