What slots are on your personal blacklist ?

[Afi4wins]

Providers are literally dishing out rubbish games nowadays. Imagine the top symbol paying only 2x - 5x the total bet for a 5-of-a-kind win! Extremely low paytables are becoming even more extreme lately, even going under the dirt if I may say so. 

[cocopop3011]

On 5/25/2020 at 4:57 PM, Afi4wins said:

Providers are literally dishing out rubbish games nowadays. Imagine the top symbol paying only 2x - 5x the total bet for a 5-of-a-kind win! Extremely low paytables are becoming even more extreme lately, even going under the dirt if I may say so. 

I agree, if only we could rewind 6 years ago, get those old tables back!

[imanorange]

On 5/25/2020 at 10:57 PM, Afi4wins said:

Providers are literally dishing out rubbish games nowadays. Imagine the top symbol paying only 2x - 5x the total bet for a 5-of-a-kind win! Extremely low paytables are becoming even more extreme lately, even going under the dirt if I may say so. 

Nobody is thinking outside the box anymore, just changing the graphics, re-branding and (re) releasing. 

Yes the pay tables are pathetic, has anyone looked at the Blue Print Megaways pay tables? I believe most symbols are 1x or 2x for 6 across except for the two main ones. In my humble opinion, their Megaways games are tighter than a mouses ear. What is the point of having different symbols if they are all the same value? 

[Afi4wins]

59 minutes ago, imanorange said:

Nobody is thinking outside the box anymore, just changing the graphics, re-branding and (re) releasing. 

Yes the pay tables are pathetic, has anyone looked at the Blue Print Megaways pay tables? I believe most symbols are 1x or 2x for 6 across except for the two main ones. In my humble opinion, their Megaways games are tighter than a mouses ear. What is the point of having different symbols if they are all the same value? 

My turn to say touche mate...and that sounds like coming from someone with a little bit more of experience too. 

[pinnit2015]

Yeah, BP are grim for hitting a bonus but been playing Rick and Morty and had 5 500x (not much over them) the last 5 days so hitting purple patches with them.

No one does cheap games, re-skinned with no imagination like PNG though. Every release gets worse and worse - should really slow the production line and get a new development team: shocking game releases over the last 18 months in particular. 

[imanorange]

2 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

My turn to say touche mate...and that sounds like coming from someone with a little bit more of experience too. 

Yeah buddy I am partial to some gaming without a doubt. A shame the game design has gone downhill but worse of all, the pay outs are bloody anemic these days.  

2 hours ago, pinnit2015 said:

Yeah, BP are grim for hitting a bonus but been playing Rick and Morty and had 5 500x (not much over them) the last 5 days so hitting purple patches with them.

No one does cheap games, re-skinned with no imagination like PNG though. Every release gets worse and worse - should really slow the production line and get a new development team: shocking game releases over the last 18 months in particular. 

500x five times on Rick and Morty in 5 days? That is fabulous and I'm happy for you. Although at the same time, I could knock you over the head for telling me as I'll end up putting a few hundred at least in that game because of it. LOL (just kidding but there is truth in there)

Yes the free games are hard to come by on Blue Print so I end up "buying the feature" sometimes. I hit 1000x on Legacy of Ra however I had been playing it for days at 3x times the bet I got the monster win on. Can't have everything.... Funny enough it was only Queens as the featured symbol but it was Megaways all the way across. I've been able to get 200x to 300x on Diamond Mine but I've over played it and to be honest, the payouts for normal spins make it useless. I would stay away from their newer Gorilla Gold as the payouts are horrible. The 4 slot layout is a ploy IMHO as you need to really bet big (4x your normal stake) to get something large. 

I agree with your PNG observation and if I see a new game by them, I certainly don't get excited. They have always been more than stingy in pay outs for me and I've played most of their offerings. From the looks of their newest titles, it seems they are listening to too much hard rock and possibly smoking too many joints. 

[Afi4wins]

5 hours ago, pinnit2015 said:

Yeah, BP are grim for hitting a bonus but been playing Rick and Morty and had 5 500x (not much over them) the last 5 days so hitting purple patches with them.

No one does cheap games, re-skinned with no imagination like PNG though. Every release gets worse and worse - should really slow the production line and get a new development team: shocking game releases over the last 18 months in particular. 

Maybe PnG has retrenched all of their game designers except for the cheap worse ones? 

[pinnit2015]

8 hours ago, imanorange said:

Yeah buddy I am partial to some gaming without a doubt. A shame the game design has gone downhill but worse of all, the pay outs are bloody anemic these days.  

500x five times on Rick and Morty in 5 days? That is fabulous and I'm happy for you. Although at the same time, I could knock you over the head for telling me as I'll end up putting a few hundred at least in that game because of it. LOL (just kidding but there is truth in there)

Yes the free games are hard to come by on Blue Print so I end up "buying the feature" sometimes. I hit 1000x on Legacy of Ra however I had been playing it for days at 3x times the bet I got the monster win on. Can't have everything.... Funny enough it was only Queens as the featured symbol but it was Megaways all the way across. I've been able to get 200x to 300x on Diamond Mine but I've over played it and to be honest, the payouts for normal spins make it useless. I would stay away from their newer Gorilla Gold as the payouts are horrible. The 4 slot layout is a ploy IMHO as you need to really bet big (4x your normal stake) to get something large. 

I agree with your PNG observation and if I see a new game by them, I certainly don't get excited. They have always been more than stingy in pay outs for me and I've played most of their offerings. From the looks of their newest titles, it seems they are listening to too much hard rock and possibly smoking too many joints. 

Yeah, had a punt on Gorilla Gold and see it as a bit of a money drainer - i'm not a fan of gimmicks in games (Hello, BTG's Monopoly etc) and the 4 slots of that is simply that IMO; so quickly left after it ripped through 300x in the blink of an eye.

Not against re-skinning games, per se: No Limit City's Deadwood is IMO an improvement on Tombstone, but only if they augment the previous version: innovation has gone with a lot of providers sadly, though NLC seem to be one of the few trying something new and BTG, despite some of their releases, at least try something new/different now and then (even if not a fan)

Re Rick & Morty - the Federation Spins are where it's at in the Bonus: tbh though 2/3 of those 500x took 250x loss to get, so profit wasn't that great but you can see how it can payout (two wilds in Federation Spins and a Rick symbol on the first reel will normally shoot you up to the 500x in one spin)

[imanorange]

5 hours ago, pinnit2015 said:

Yeah, had a punt on Gorilla Gold and see it as a bit of a money drainer - i'm not a fan of gimmicks in games (Hello, BTG's Monopoly etc) and the 4 slots of that is simply that IMO; so quickly left after it ripped through 300x in the blink of an eye.

Not against re-skinning games, per se: No Limit City's Deadwood is IMO an improvement on Tombstone, but only if they augment the previous version: innovation has gone with a lot of providers sadly, though NLC seem to be one of the few trying something new and BTG, despite some of their releases, at least try something new/different now and then (even if not a fan)

Re Rick & Morty - the Federation Spins are where it's at in the Bonus: tbh though 2/3 of those 500x took 250x loss to get, so profit wasn't that great but you can see how it can payout (two wilds in Federation Spins and a Rick symbol on the first reel will normally Shoot you up to the 500x in one Spin)

I feel the same with Gorilla Gold and I burned a good 200x or in my case 10,000 Thai Baht (50 baht per spin) with my highest win being 2x-4x. They also have an additional 20% of your stake for a "bonus" bet which is absolute robbery. I ended up getting two free games on another session (Yeah I'm a glutton for punishment) but still walked away with no net profits with my biggest win only 20x in a free round. 

Needless to say after two sessions I was not happy especially after looking more closely at the pay tables which are ridiculous. For a decent win on that game I would need to have a stake of 100 Thai Baht (around 2.25 pounds) which to be honest I'm not comfortable playing 300 to 500 spins at. I'm personally more in the 1 quid per spin range normally.  I'll bring that up to 2 quid on games I am more familiarized in and have been proven to pay.

Rick & Morty initially gave me 150x a few weeks back and then I played it two other sessions walking away skint. Thanks for the information on Federation spins as I certainly didn't get that but I will soon see if I can. Therefore I can blame my probable losses on YOU! haha, at least that is what I'll tell myself. Cheers!

PS - The casinos I play in do not offer Monopoly by BTG but I did check it out for free elsewhere I felt the same way from my initial observation. I figure they need to pay Hasbro (I believe owns Monopoly) so the payouts will not be as good. 

[Afi4wins]

45 minutes ago, imanorange said:

I feel the same with Gorilla Gold and I burned a good 200x or in my case 10,000 Thai Baht (50 baht per Spin) with my highest win being 2x-4x. They also have an additional 20% of your stake for a "bonus" bet which is absolute robbery. I ended up getting two free games on another session (Yeah I'm a glutton for punishment) but still walked away with no net profits with my biggest win only 20x in a free round. 

Heeey Im-an-orange...didn't know you play with Thai Bahts...but Im-ur-neighbour down below! 

[imanorange]

2 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

Heeey Im-an-orange...didn't know you play with Thai Bahts...but Im-ur-neighbour down below! 

Yeah man, been an expat for over 30 years essentially since I was 18. I guess you can say I am ruined being "Lost in Asia". Things have changed significantly over that span basically from the Wild West to umm dare I say, first World countries (whatever that means). The transfer from West to East has been interesting to watch to say the least. 

I'm assuming you are in Cambo as that is probably the most desirable place "down below". If so, that place has taken a huge turn as well as I have many friends who have moved there from the confines of LOS (Land of Smiles). 

Completely understood if you wish to keep your location safe as my common answer is "Lost In Asia". A name of a rather interesting hole-in-the-wall bar I used to frequent across the pond in the Pines. Cheers mate!

[Afi4wins]

1 hour ago, imanorange said:

Yeah man, been an expat for over 30 years essentially since I was 18. I guess you can say I am ruined being "Lost in Asia". Things have changed significantly over that span basically from the Wild West to umm dare I say, first World countries (whatever that means). The transfer from West to East has been interesting to watch to say the least. 

I'm assuming you are in Cambo as that is probably the most desirable place "down below". If so, that place has taken a huge turn as well as I have many friends who have moved there from the confines of LOS (Land of Smiles). 

Completely understood if you wish to keep your location safe as my common answer is "Lost In Asia". A name of a rather interesting hole-in-the-wall bar I used to frequent across the pond in the Pines. Cheers mate!

I'm in Cambo? No...no mate, that's not down below, that's more like where the bboobbs are...higher up, not below...hahaha. 

I'm in Malaysia mate, your neighbour below...and I'm not keeping it a secret either, hehehe. And cheers to you too! 

(Edit: Damn the auto correction...why showing my word 'secret' as 'casino secret' is simply dumbfounding!)

[imanorange]

1 hour ago, Afi4wins said:

I'm in Cambo? No...no mate, that's not down below, that's more like where the bboobbs are...higher up, not below...hahaha. 

I'm in Malaysia mate, your neighbour below...and I'm not keeping it a Casino Secret either, hehehe. And cheers to you too! 

(Edit: Damn the auto correction...why showing my word 'secret' as 'casino secret' is simply dumbfounding!)

OK I used to go there quite often for Visa runs and a bit of shopping. Penang mostly but also KL. It has been a good 12 years or so since I went. I heard from some customers of mine Penang has exploded (this was a couple years back) and wanted me to open another restaurant there. Never pulled the trigger as I was a bit over extended with places in Thailand and the Philippines. 

I have been around Asia for quite a while and met many individuals from all over the globe who wish to remain anonymous.  

Anyway, good to meet somebody online in my neck of the woods.

[Afi4wins]

6 hours ago, imanorange said:

OK I used to go there quite often for Visa runs and a bit of shopping. Penang mostly but also KL. It has been a good 12 years or so since I went. I heard from some customers of mine Penang has exploded (this was a couple years back) and wanted me to open another restaurant there. Never pulled the trigger as I was a bit over extended with places in Thailand and the Philippines. 

I have been around Asia for quite a while and met many individuals from all over the globe who wish to remain anonymous.  

Anyway, good to meet somebody online in my neck of the woods.

Aaah, a restauranteur...maybe you're one of those lucky ones who got some publicity in the newspapers or media? If so, then I must read all about you, if that was indeed you. If not for this pandemic, business should have been good, right mate? Hehehe.

[imanorange]

8 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

Aaah, a restauranteur...maybe you're one of those lucky ones who got some publicity in the newspapers or media? If so, then I must read all about you, if that was indeed you. If not for this pandemic, business should have been good, right mate? Hehehe.

Mate, after 30+ years around these parts I have made it a point to try and stay as low key as possible. As I'm sure you know, being a foreigner in Asia has many obstacles to overcome and being high profile only magnifies things.

Thus I tend to try and spend my time online or at home that way I can blow my cash in slot machines more often. 

Yeah business was looking to really boom mate and I was in the process of extending my lease long term among other things. Actually a good thing I didn't as my location here in Thailand is devastated. And I had sold out of the location in the Philippines a couple years prior.

Not a sob story, just reality as many people like me are feeling the pain of this upside down World.

On a more positive note, I just had a massive win in Midas Touch by Thunderkick of 500x. I forgot how the payouts on that game are huge.

@pinnit2015 Hey mate, I took your advise and played Rick & Morty getting 2 150x wins and two free games in one session. Not bad but the bloody pay outs in regular spins are, well *****.

After I played Wish Upon A Leprechaun and hit 200x in a free game round. First time I saw a "Megaways Guaranteed" feature which gave me 20,100 ways a screen full of As... Nice hit for close to 100x. Funny how some days when you game everything hits but it is rare to get 3 big winning sessions in a row with three different games. 

[Afi4wins]

13 minutes ago, imanorange said:

Mate, after 30+ years around these parts I have made it a point to try and stay as low key as possible. As I'm sure you know, being a foreigner in Asia has many obstacles to overcome and being high profile only magnifies things.

Thus I tend to try and spend my time online or at home that way I can blow my cash in slot machines more often. 

Yeah business was looking to really boom mate and I was in the process of extending my lease long term among other things. Actually a good thing I didn't as my location here in Thailand is devastated. And I had sold out of the location in the Philippines a couple years prior.

Not a sob story, just reality as many people like me are feeling the pain of this upside down World.

On a more positive note, I just had a massive win in Midas Touch by Thunderkick of 500x. I forgot how the payouts on that game are huge.

@pinnit2015 Hey mate, I took your advise and played Rick & Morty getting 2 150x wins and two free games in one session. Not bad but the bloody pay outs in regular spins are, well *****.

After I played Wish Upon A Leprechaun and hit 200x in a free game round. First time I saw a "Megaways Guaranteed" feature which gave me 20,100 ways a screen full of As... Nice hit for close to 100x. Funny how some days when you game everything hits but it is rare to get 3 big winning sessions in a row with three different games. 

Well mate, hope this pain-demic would die off soon so that we can get some decent normalcy back.

Now, back to the slotting topics...before one of the admin here starts reprimanding us for derailing, hehehe.

[pinnit2015]

4 hours ago, imanorange said:

Mate, after 30+ years around these parts I have made it a point to try and stay as low key as possible. As I'm sure you know, being a foreigner in Asia has many obstacles to overcome and being high profile only magnifies things.

Thus I tend to try and spend my time online or at home that way I can blow my cash in slot machines more often. 

Yeah business was looking to really boom mate and I was in the process of extending my lease long term among other things. Actually a good thing I didn't as my location here in Thailand is devastated. And I had sold out of the location in the Philippines a couple years prior.

Not a sob story, just reality as many people like me are feeling the pain of this upside down World.

On a more positive note, I just had a massive win in Midas Touch by Thunderkick of 500x. I forgot how the payouts on that game are huge.

@pinnit2015 Hey mate, I took your advise and played Rick & Morty getting 2 150x wins and two free games in one session. Not bad but the bloody pay outs in regular spins are, well *****.

After I played Wish Upon A Leprechaun and hit 200x in a free game round. First time I saw a "Megaways Guaranteed" feature which gave me 20,100 ways a screen full of As... Nice hit for close to 100x. Funny how some days when you game everything hits but it is rare to get 3 big winning sessions in a row with three different games. 

Yeah dude, you may get the odd 100x the odd time in the base game but they're not as common as some similar games....Unlike it's close cousin Bonanza though i find the Bonus will not give you as many sub 100x rounds.

Red Tiger, avoiding their 92% offerings where possible at casinos, have a deceptive decent set of Megaways - i think, and it's on here somewhere, the first time i played Wish Upon i hit 2200x in the bonus round (not played since) - very hard to bonus in them though. 

Putting tinfoil hat on, i find when i'm winning EVERY slot across different providers seems to hit - very rarely does it seem to be the case of one hot slot and 9 cold ones etc - odd. Almost like there's a central force at play. 

[imanorange]

7 hours ago, pinnit2015 said:

Yeah dude, you may get the odd 100x the odd time in the base game but they're not as common as some similar games....Unlike it's close cousin Bonanza though i find the Bonus will not give you as many sub 100x rounds.

Red Tiger, avoiding their 92% offerings where possible at casinos, have a deceptive decent set of Megaways - i think, and it's on here somewhere, the first time i played Wish Upon i hit 2200x in the bonus round (not played since) - very hard to bonus in them though. 

Putting tinfoil hat on, i find when i'm winning EVERY slot across different providers seems to hit - very rarely does it seem to be the case of one hot slot and 9 cold ones etc - odd. Almost like there's a central force at play. 

Funny enough, Bonanza has not been kind to me in the free spins but I have got several 100x to 300x regular spins. I do great in the normal spins and horribly in the free games. Go figure. I recently hit a jaw dropping 1200x on Who Want's To Be Millionaire with a megaways combination at only 5x on the tail end of an 8 spin bonus game.  I much prefer the BTG megaways over Blue Print however the gamble feature probably 70% of time ends up in a loss so I almost always just take what I get. I find a lot of times additional free spins are rewarded during the bonus round.

I'm right there with you and the tin hat as I experience the same "anomalies".  Haven't had any luck with Red Tiger to speak of except on good win of 200x on Piggy Riches Megaways but I dumped at least twice that in the darn game prior.

[pinnit2015]

18 hours ago, imanorange said:

Funny enough, Bonanza has not been kind to me in the free spins but I have got several 100x to 300x regular spins. I do great in the normal spins and horribly in the free games. Go figure. I recently hit a jaw dropping 1200x on Who Want's To Be Millionaire with a megaways combination at only 5x on the tail end of an 8 Spin bonus game.  I much prefer the BTG megaways over Blue Print however the gamble feature probably 70% of time ends up in a loss so I almost always just take what I get. I find a lot of times additional free spins are rewarded during the bonus round.

I'm right there with you and the tin hat as I experience the same "anomalies".  Haven't had any luck with Red Tiger to speak of except on good win of 200x on Piggy Riches Megaways but I dumped at least twice that in the darn game prior.

Yeah, the BP MW's are a lot more clunky as well.

Think Bonanza's RTP in the base game is very high in comparison with other games (just shy of 70% in the BG, compared to Reactoonz of sub 50% - can't remember the exact figures), so the bonus rounds are quite volatile. In terms of base game hits, Donuts, is one I've seen folk hit quite a few >1000x in the base game with the purples: I've had about 3 ish 1000x wins in Bonanzas BG, but that's over 3 years. 

Someone did have a 100x multiplier going into the Donuts bonus round and won zero - that would have seen my laptop thrown across into England.

New game in a few weeks out by BTG, Clusterpays - on Sky Vegas for a week, interesting to see if it's, hopefully, more like Lil Devil and less like Monopoly Multiplier. 

[pinnit2015]

One thing i do like, and some BTG's/NLC games do it, is the slow spin: you see the first few reels with a premium symbol and then for the last few reels the slow spin comes in; knowing you've got a board of the premium symbols, or, one reel short, but still a big win: hit 2800x in Dragon Born when it first came out and it's a good feeling: same for White Rabbit: obviously a psychological part but it achieves it's goals

[pinnit2015]

Keeping in line with the blacklisted slots - a lot will have had many an iSoftBet on theirs at some point but worth noting that their recent releases have really improved and, dare i say it, are actually quite good and entertaining so a play on the recent releases may see them coming off the list. 

[imanorange]

12 hours ago, pinnit2015 said:

Keeping in line with the blacklisted slots - a lot will have had many an iSoftBet on theirs at some point but worth noting that their recent releases have really improved and, dare i say it, are actually quite good and entertaining so a play on the recent releases may see them coming off the list. 

Have have had some enormous wins with iSoftbet with two 500x wins on Dragon Match one of their latest Megaways offerings. I would not go so far to blacklist any of their games personally as they tend to hit a lot for me.

I would have to put all of Spade Gaming on the blacklist. Many of their games advertise up to 100K even 150K your stake but it is a struggle getting 100x. Most of their games will give you free spins easily but you are lucky to get 10x in the bonus round. I have played most of their games extensively and when choosing the multipliers and additional free games, you always end up with the same picks. I tend to think their games are not properly audited as they literally seem to be malfunctioning making it a struggle to get 2x your stake.

[Afi4wins]

3 hours ago, imanorange said:

Have have had some enormous wins with iSoftbet with two 500x wins on Dragon Match one of their latest Megaways offerings. I would not go so far to blacklist any of their games personally as they tend to hit a lot for me.

I would have to put all of Spade Gaming on the blacklist. Many of their games advertise up to 100K even 150K your stake but it is a struggle getting 100x. Most of their games will give you free spins easily but you are lucky to get 10x in the bonus round. I have played most of their games extensively and when choosing the multipliers and additional free games, you always end up with the same picks. I tend to think their games are not properly audited as they literally seem to be malfunctioning making it a struggle to get 2x your stake.

I for one, will not play on any Asian-provider-designed-games, including Spade Gaming and Asia Gaming. I tried one or two games and that was enough for me to be deterred, probably for life!

Whenever I play at any Asian online casino, I would stick to only Playtech and Microgaming games. All the Asian games would simply suck, but so did many Playtech and MG games too. I then told each casino manager concerned that I would be complaining directly to Playtech or Microgaming about their non-standard terribly playing/paying games. Since that time (that was about 1.5 years ago), all Asian casinos are now using the European version softwares instead, and it is costing me 4x or 5x more to play my favourite games, except for Playtech games. DAMN!!! 

So, are the games playing and paying better now than before the conversion? What the heck, they are paying just as badly...but that's the dark side of gambling life isn't it? You just can't win them all and you just can't beat them either!  

[ValDes]

Well, well, well... Seems like our relatively new forum friend @imanorange has caused quite an interesting discussion here.  

Thanks for sharing your experience and feedback, mate, much appreciated!

[imanorange]

On 6/1/2020 at 6:09 PM, ValDes said:

Well, well, well... Seems like our relatively new forum friend @imanorange has caused quite an interesting discussion here.  

Thanks for sharing your experience and feedback, mate, much appreciated!

Yeah bro, sorry to get a bit off topic I'll make sure to ramble in proper topics, haha. Cheers!