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This is not about the fact that there bonus is already super unfair by design. No they also added untold disadvantages to it. According to their own terms you have to wager a bonus 35 times (35x) before you can withdrawal the funds.If you used more than one Bonus at the site you will often have the issue that the wagering requirement can be up to 69 times the Bonus amount.This is due to a bug. At least they call it a bug. In my eyes this is not a bug anymore if they dont intent to fix it ever. I reported the issue several times now and they had many weeks time to fix it, but it never has been handled, most likely because this "bug" is hugely in the favor of the house, adding up to double the wagering requirement to any bonus. I reported the issue several times, always asking to fix it and get the bonus into my account with the right wagering requirement. They fixed the wagering requirement every time but never got rid of the "bug". Its working this way. You usually are not able to clear the bonus and loose all the funds at some point. Lets say you are only able to wager 5 times the bonus amount before the money of the bonus is lost completely.At this point no active bonus is showing anymore and you have no wagering requirement left. So fare so good: Once the next bonus is offered and you take it your wagering requirement will be 35x +30x from the last bonus which was lost and should not add any wagering to your new bonus.So the wagering requirement will be 65x instead of 35x.I think many people will not even recognize and the once who do like me, will have to go to live chat, hope that the guy gets the issue. Usually this will take up to 30 minutes until he understands and afterwards this will be sent to another department which will fix the issue and put the turnover requirement at 35x. I gave them several warnings to stop this scammy behaviour and get the bonus system work correct again. They never fixed the issue, as there is an incentive for them to not do so, i think this is not just due to incompetence, the conduct in question is fraudulent and intended. Thats why i now decided to come forward and report this to as many people as possible, to spread awareness and show the shady business tactics of the casino in question.

I personally would be careful with this, it is possible that the game won't count towards wagering or your withdrawal later could be cancelled because of this as it can be looked upon as bonus abuse- especially if you choose to get the last heart on a fresh- bonus free deposit. But I think it also really depends on your betsize, I doubt a smaller stakes win would be checked upon, but if it is a higher bet pluss the potential that Lil Devil has, it could cause some troubles. But that again really depends on the casino, bonus policy, bet size etc. I personally wouldn't risk it even if it isn't in the bonus rules.

Hi mate. There are no rules that disallow such thing as what you plan in doing in Lil Devil, but casinos can label your moves and intentions as a 'strategy' and that can be considered as a prohibition. Several years ago, Playtech's game of Mr Cashback was my top favourite game, and my top winnings earner. In that game, every 50th non-winning spin would pay a cashback reward, the amount depending on the bet size - the bigger the bet size, the bigger the reward. My strategy then was to play the game, spinning until I reach the 49th non-winning spin, then I would switch over to another bet size, thereby starting all over again at spin #1. This way, I had reached the 49th spin on different bet sizes, but I would only play for the 50th cashback spins after ending that session using bonus money. When the bonus wagering was removed, I would then make a fresh deposit, no bonus taken, and play off that 50th spin, thereby collecting the cashback reward for each bet size level. The total cashback won can be quite a lot, especially on the bigger bet sizes. Playtech later discovered how I was regularly winning on their Mr Cashback game, and they then banned me from playing it. Then they introduced new bonus terms that restricted play on Mr Cashback with bonus money. And that put an end to my glorious winning sessions on Mr Cashback! Lil Devil works on the same principal, the 40th Heart paying out a cashback reward too, as in Mr Cashback. Bonus terms restrict the use of strategies whilst playing with bonus money, so your plan might just fall into this category. I don't know for sure because I don't play that devil Lil Devil, but I'm highlighting to you what the casino might think of your moves. Anyway, although the 40th Heart may only be one heart away to be collected, it may take a lot of spins to get that, and if it takes hundreds of spins just to get that one final heart, would it really be worth the cashback reward then, considering the total amount of money already spent on the game from spin #1? I really don't know but I would really consider it first!

Any thoughts on this BTG grinder, as well as other grinder games, can I just use bonus funds to grind it..... if its not in restricted games of a bonus is it ok to grind it collecting the hearts or bars or whatever collectable..... and if I grind towards the goal of reach 40 hearts/bars, when reaching 39, then switch to another game , finish wagering on that other game or bust out the bonus..... and then return to Lil dev (or other game that you have collected 39) and then play the spins to get the enhanced bonus...... by getting the 40th item.. or just stay on the game for entire time including for the enhanced bonus... we all know these grinder games usually cost a lot of money during the collecting stage and the enhanced bonus is likely not going to pay back enough to cover the investment... but if we use bonus funds then it would at least cut the cost of the entire journey.

Hope you'll have a nice and safe journey back to Croatia soon. Nothing feels better than to be at home (homeland), right? Well, it's always a cruel world out there, injustice abound everywhere, and what is 'just' to us may be 'absurd' to others. Yes, casinos may reward those who report bugs, loopholes or what's wrong at their casinos, but like I said earlier, their rewards always tend to be some free spins or bonus money (with wagering attached, ). As far as I know, only big-spenders high-level VIPs can get cash rewards, simply because casinos need them to stay on and be satisfied!

From what I could understand - Wagering was completed from a free bonus and the max cashout was 100 euro. However the player kept 25 euro of the balance on his account after max cashout was imposed and continued to play, then he continued to play with the exact bonus funds that was remaining after the 100 euro max cash out and thought he could cash out more. When he charged(deposit) 25 to his account - That was like the standard verification/security deposit in order to withdraw from a free bonus, so with that said he requested 100 euro withdrawal and continued to play with his deposited funds while the withdrawal was not completed, and since he was within the limits of the max cashout before the transaction completed, they kept imposing max cash out policy. What the player should have done was deposit 25 euro, withdraw 125 euro( deposit+winnings), then after payment is received, make a new deposit play and if he hit big all winnings were withdrawable. Instead he deposited 25 euro, withdrew 100 euro, and has more than that in his account but continue with the initial bonus winnings and made another withdrawal which they honoured, and he kept another 25 euro, and basically they confiscated because you cannot claim more than 1 free bonus or winning from the same bonus all the time. As per general rule these days, 1 deposit must be in between free bonuses or for winnings to be paid out resulting from a free bonus. I think the casino should have cancelled the players balance complete after the first 100 euro withdrawal after he deposited.

Hi there Joner, welcome to Askgamblers forum. Casinoland replied to you informing that you had breached the bonus terms and therefore had all your winnings confiscated. Whilst playing with the bonus active, you played the 3 mentioned games, got the free spins feature game activated, BUT you did not play them. Instead, you quit the game and left the free spins feature game to be played at a later stage, after the bonus wagering was no longer active (removed). You did this on the 3 games. When there was no more bonus wagering active, you made a new deposit, without taking any new bonus, then played off the free spins from the 3 games, thereby making a nice easy win. These was confirmed by the software provider, as mentioned in the reply to you. This is clearly an abuse of the bonus, and a breach of the bonus terms, so no winnings can ever be paid out to you. Or is it that you did not do the above, but the casino and provider is accusing you of doing it?

414. BRAG: Someone said: had a cash out of £3500, turns out I had gone over the max £5 bet during wagering on one slot but they was good as gold and still paid me out 415. BEAT: Someone said: I was on a Curaçao licensed casino before I knew how bad they were, tried to deposit and messed up a number on my card, deposited properly then when I withdrew they wanted pics of the card I typo'd. 416. BRAG: Someone said: my friend yesterday deposited £50 but had a welcome bonus, managed to play it down and ended up playing Megaball and Crazy Time, withdrew £1.5K, he gave me £150 so I was over the moon. 417. BRAG: Someone said: I've hit the bonus on IO a couple of times in the same session, went from 15$ to 160$ 60c spins so I believe when you finally get it it'll go nuts 418. BRAG: Someone said: Milky ways I love this game 1500x yesterday. 419. BRAG: Someone said: got a 2382 x win yesterday so I'm fine haha. 420. BRAG: Someone said: have you played honeyrush lately? had a 900x on 40cent bet yesterday. 421. BRAG: Someone said: I played Safari Gold, I bought megaways 300 and received 13000. 422. BRAG: Someone said: had a crazy run lastnight. Made from a 0.70€ bonus a 500€ cashout. 423. BRAG: Someone said: had 400x on Crazy Time last night. Shame only had £1 on it but £400 is still nice. 424. BRAG: Someone said: I won £3500 lastnight on millionaire megaways!!! 425. BEAT/BRAG: Someone said: I had just had the worst online casino experience ever, have you heard of casino that will give you limit of 500 euro per week as withdraw!!! I won 5000 euro and to withdraw it completely I have to wait 2 and half month hahaha. 426. BRAG: Someone said: first time I played Vikings, 2€ stake.. got bonus on first 10 spins and hit 1500x! 3120€ and got to cashout 5700€ with a 200€ deposit.

This seems like a classic example of a FU clause to me, where the player can't win no matter what Even the dodgier sites I've played at all make it clear that any bonus is considered complete when no funds are left to wager with. I would never willingly play at a casino that deems otherwise. Could it be that there was a small balance left from the free spins? Many sites set a small minimum sum (like 0.5 or 1 credit) below which wagering for a particular bonus can be voided, while some require the balance to read zero. A stuck game round could also be the culprit.

This offer didn't work for me! I'm disappointed with Egocasino...in many aspects! I told the casino's live chat that the offer in Askgamblers forum was for 20 no-deposit free spins and a 120% first deposit bonus, plus an additional 20 free spins for a 10 EUR deposit. She replied back she could only offer the free spins with a 100% bonus, the standard offer, so I took it nonetheless, not wanting to argue further, but this shows inefficiency within the casino's system! I would also like to mention that whilst playing with the 20 no-deposit free spins, my 14+EUR balance suddenly disappeared, with only 0.11 EUR showing. I couldn't trace where the money disappeared to. A 15.40 bonus amount is shown in the history section, but is nowhere to be found in my account! I think I had just completed the bonus wagering and was on my way to collecting more wins before making a small withdrawal, but that got blown away with the wind! Very disappointing system indeed!

https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/profile_mask2.png Hi, All this happened two weeks ago, so I am slowly starting to be able to breathe again. And I know that this is a long shot but I can not think off any other way. Ok here we go.. I am pretty sure that I have been scammed by the stakes.com. I don't have any proof so I came to ask other gamblers for help. I played their welcome bonus during night between 29. and 30. of May. I played 4 different games and ended up winning 5k. Just before wagering was done the site kicked me out. I managed to get back in and complete the wagering. Then there was problems with withdrawals. I requested 5x1000€ because I couldn't ask 1x5000€. I went to sleep between 5 and 6 am. Next evening I tried to login to my account, no-go. Asked customer support about my withdrawal reguest? They said that it takes 48h to check that out. I waited. Then there came email that asked me to send very precise KYC-documents. I did. Then they asked me to send them again and asked more documents. I did. Then I had to send more photos about my credit card. I did.. all this time I couldn't login to my account. Asked about that from customer support. They said that they are updating their website so that why I can't login. (I think this was stalling) Next day they send me an email and congratulated me for becoming a certified player but they have to deny my withdrawal request because I broke their T&C. I played forbidden games. All the games have appeared on the list. Those games are not forbidden on 95% of the other casinos. And those are listed one after another and in the same order I played them. I do not believe in these kind of things. And the T&C have been updated on 28. of may, a day before I started playing. This smells so fishy.. So Now I am asking help from other gamblers if someone has a screenshot of those forbidden games on 29. of May? Or that the Casino can not proof that they have not updated on 28. of May. I can't submit complaint because I don't have proof. I am quite sure that they have updated T&C afterwards. If someone can help and this all ends up successful withdrawal of full amount I will pay a reward of 1000€. Thanks and Regards Jurse

Wager free sounds good in theory but when the spins are in batches of 5 and 10p mainly, they aren't appealing to be honest. Each to their own obviously, but I'd rather have several 100% offers in a month, with x35-x45 wagering attached, than have a shot at 10p spins in the month (not to cash out but more for game play, taking a chance with higher bets etc) Coupled with the fact that your chances of winning spins in VS has gone down as numbers have gone up, as well - on a decent week you'd maybe pick up 100 or more spins, now you're lucky to see 25. Battles halved as well as rounders tickets crop up. Still not a bad place to play if low rolling i suppose, i just don't see the point in depositing 400 quid a month (or whatever it is to meet 2500XP) to play boring PNG 10p spins. They've also ditched a lot of their prize trophy's - winning 4 times in a row etc used to get you spins i think in the past but they've scaled that back as well (stealthily as well) 7/10 for me as a casino

Hi Fiekie247 , I use to converse with one of their staff from the loyalty department and give feedback / idea's directly then they did away with loyalty altogether traded for this remote pilot model which has slowly become less and less attractive imho : Clash of the spins agreed is nonsense the cash race was better i mean what can one do with 5-10 spins maximum they might as well just increase ones weekend booster . As far as loyalty goes free items are great but without a proper bonus with wagering lets face it the odds of winning are reduced when things ....aren't "running hot" if you know what I mean and that's the real crux of the matter end of the day folks are looking to stretch their deposits see a song and dance for their money these days so yeah I guess if things don't change ill start hunting for another roost tbh .

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That's an absolutely ridiculous bonus term! All unfinished bonus wagering should be waived or removed when the balance goes to zero...should not be carried forward nor remain for any prolonged periods of time. If the casino doesn't or wouldn't clear the unfinished wagerings, then simply close that account, walk away and never play at that casino ever again! However, revealing the casino's name here would greatly benefit all readers to completely avoid such a scamming casino!

Why would they play...gamblers can have low IQ's when it comes to things like this but normally it'll be because 1. Gam-stopped or 2. The allure of the 2000% bonus, which they'll be lucky to even see if they meet wagering. Talking of dodgy sites, if you look at Leomonaco: there's one to stay away from, I wonder where they got their innovative inspiration from. Genuinely i think it's harder to find dodgy casinos (UK at least), than it is to find a well run joint; so, I'm baffled why folk play in places - if in doubt, walk away: there's really NO NEED to play/take a chance in some of these places.

To answer this question with a broad stroke for a person with gaming experience is play the games you are familiar with at higher bet levels. This sort of echoes what the two gents above posted. I believe grinding it out at lower stakes can only makes things more frustrating when, after an hour or two you come up short of your wagering requirement. For anybody asking this question who has minimal gaming experience, I would tell them to just have fun and not focus too much on the wagering requirements. You'll quickly reach them in whatever course of action you take if luck is on your side. It may be helpful to point out many casinos only allow a certain amount pertaining to bonus wagering requirements normally around 5 euros.

Yeah, it's pointless trying to work out what games may meet the wager: i've met high wagering with various games over the years, some unexpected like Starburst one (boring 5 hours). Sometimes you low roll for an hour, build up, bet bigger and make it: sometimes you simply low roll yourself to zero. Just depends. My personal preference, of the last few years is just to go in biggish and hope you hit a decent bonus early doors. With second chance bonus's IMO you may as well try 50 two quids, 25 4 quids etc but that's just my preference. It's a good feeling, if it hits, to know that you've got a grand left to wager and have a grand balance - knowing every wins in the bank - very rare though, but good when it happens.

First of all vir2al, how good is your knowledge on slot games? Do you know which games are good for wagering purposes? Do you know which games can give you a good extended play time, or which games can kill your wallet in no time? I guess not, simply because even the very experienced players may find these questions rather baffling at times! Why? Because a game can play good and well one day, then turn into a hungry money-guzzling wolf the next day! It's rather difficult to suggest some games for you to wager on, for the above reasons, but if it's me, I would stick to my regular playing games that I am more familiar with, especially games that can pay big wins with small bets. Unless of course you like playing with bigger bets of up to the allowed max bet limit, then a lot would depend on your luck on your playing day. A quick good win on a 5 Euro bet can easily boost up your balance by several hundreds, so that could make completing the 1000 wagering requirement a breeze! Good luck anyway. Sorry, that I cannot recommend any games for you.

How to beat the wagering requirements? I have 50$ bonus money.need 1000$ wagering. what is best way beat this requirement? generaly i play slots.and only slots casino calculate 100% wager. i want yours advice. Good Luck everyone.

So it all begin with a 10mbit deposit. I made my deposit using Bitcoin, and opened punk rocker slot. I made a bonus buy of 6mbtc and won about X200, then proceeded to make another bonus buy and won a wopping x1500 on the slot...Got a bit excited and went to the my account section for a withdrawal, come to see there is a bonus attached to my deposit which as automatic. Now I am seriously pisseeedd of already. I contacted support and ask where the ***** the bonus came from and they said it's automatically applied to my account when I deposited. I must turn off the do not give bonuses when making deposits. I mean how the ***** am I suppose to know they offering a bonus for the day? I asked support to cancel my bonus so that I can get my x1500 win credited to my account because I was not aware of the bonus and they said no, I needed to complete wagering not what I wanted to hear. (I Hate Wagering). To top it off, I never ever play with any deposit bonuses at Bitstarz ever because of the limited providers available in BTC. Only no limit and play n go worth playing and the minimum bet in Play n Go and iSoftbet is $2 per bet which is a bit high for me, I remember asking @OlleBitStarz to get this lowered and it still has not been done. I only the Friday loyalty spins and Wednesday spins which I get for being a depositing member. Never any cash deposit offers or anything @OlleBitStarz can confirm this by looking at my history. The reason I did not have bonuses turned off was because I was playing in USD for the past while during the AskGamblers competition to enable more provides to being available to get winners. Normally when bonus is available then it would have displayed as per the screenshot and I would have known there would be a bonus added. Also I do not mind the bonus being added, but the system activated it automatically, it does not wait for you to go activate it under my bonuses section similar like free spins etc. I just really hoped support could have made the exception and canceled the bonus and added my x1500 win to my account because this automatic bonus issue messed up my entire day and play at Bitstarz and it's obvious I did not meet wagering as I was not in the mood to really focus and games are seriously limited. I had to kiss a 40 mbtc win goodbye which is a big amount for me actually. To top it off, today I received my 2nd chance spins for my deposits I have lost yesterday and I see they now credit it on those shiiittty Bgaming slots... It used to be on Platipus or Fruit ZEN which I will choose any day over these 9 pay line slots, because you know will never win anything Aaaarrrrgg!

Well. I always play Bonanza when wagering. Deposit 350 ZAR, 225 ZAR bonus. Wager was 11k, managed to cash out 6k after wager. Bonanza boosted balance. 4 x 117 649 spins 1 hit and 3 missed.

WIth Help of Bonanza managed to crush wagering

so me and my partner registered for dream vegas, our first and only deposit thus far was for £28 and a 100%. after beating the wagering we withdrew £250. we opened the account under my details but deposited with my soon to be wifes card, the withdrawal was declined, account closed and the bank card removed from the system because apparently the dont let you use someone else card, i can prove to them i had the consent and give them evidence etc but any time i speak to the live chat all i get is i broke the terms and conditions and there is nothing they can do. this is a joke, im not a criminal or a fraudster and have never made this "mistake" before. they have never offered a solution for example to show evidence of my wifes approval to use her card or maybe they could peak to her and she can confirm . but no they are no help at all and its stressing me out that they can get away with this. is there anything i can do?

I confirm receiving my prize! Thank you @Fiekie247 for letting us now! A big applause to AG and mostly to @cocopop3011 that organised the whole thing! cant wait for the next one.. P.S. anyone knows if I take now these 300 and while wagering i make them 3000 can I cashout or there is a max cashout rule applied?