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Btw anyone who plays this is on max bet is either: Certifiably insane, or A streamer

Think this version may be more brutal that number one. Netent have done a decent job regarding the design (purple whisky bottles though?) and general flow of the game. I see max bet is capped at the places iv tried it at: 4.50.

Go and spam your rubbish casino elsewhere.

Have to go out so will try later but 500 and one bonus. On the plus side, i did use VS for it, completed all the trophies in one of the games when waiting, got a jackpot wheel and got an upgrade: 200 free cash - which I'll need if it plays like it has done ?

First bonus: 150 coins.

Woohoo! Wild line in 100 spins! Only joking: 300 without a bonus ?

Good shout - a truely awful game. Got excited to get the free spins. Oh boy.

The sceptic would think that they know how problem gamblers minds works : most normal punters see a spike in activity in the brain when they win. PGs have the same, but not when they win, but at near misses... Surely the casino industry wouldn’t exploit PGs in such a cynical and unethical manner. Cough x5

Funnily enough I did notice that when I went on their site: popped up something about a 300 per cent bonus... Dunno why they’re hard pressed for cash given most of their games don’t pay out anyhow

Dead or alive HTML is bad enough to hit five scatters in ( in excess of 350k spins for me I reckon) so lord knows what this one will be like. Not been playing much recently so just built up kitty.... I think they’ve at least approached it right keeping the original game (well, in theory) and adding a few more. Maybe it’s cos it’s tighter than the first one and they want to get everyone off DOA1, and into it. Probably ?

Released casino wide tomorrow. Of the 3 free spin choices the High Noon one is the highest variance, followed by the 'original' DOA of Old Saloon (pays are the same) and then the lower variance of the heist one. Can't see the point in picking the last one so will be 1 or 2. Nearly 10 years since the release date of the original - will it play the same? Probably not - back then game lovers made games, now it's accountants and portfolio risk managers with too much input ? Who knows - hard to think of many good sequels - certainly, the most recent ones have been pretty poor but maybe it'll buck the trend; doubt it though. I've set aside 300 quid to give it a bash tomorrow night; see if the old 'it's new, it'll pay' theory pans out.

Sorry, but got 3 minutes into that and the alignment of the stars told me it was a load of codswallop. You want a true insight into gambling (and I'm not plugging the book due to commission), read Addiction By Design. Maybe if i was stoned it would have sounded different.

Don’t know if it’s poor game design because it’s more likely to annoy a lot of people rather than have them thinking ‘I was so close I’ll go another 100 deposit!’

Napoleon is probably, if anyone did think it was pure random, the game that makes it painfully obvious it’s not: it trolls you with 6 wilds on the right hand side constantly and likes to add a scatter to stop 4 wilds and a soldier from rolling in: don’t know if that’s a clever design or if people genuinely think ‘oh I was close’

Also, people claiming that you don’t get win on big stakes need to think of we’re casinos earn the bulk of their cash: high rollers; saw some indicative figures of 80% coming from big betters (and losers): would they really risk alienating their biggest revenue source at the expense of low rollers (with whom they can live without). Read Natasha Schulz book - great read on the Time on Device model most used. Who'd have thought the design of a chair could be so lucrative

Someone here needs to get a job with a software provider and expose the Wizard wrapped in a curtain.

Quick look at Netents annual accounts state ‘almost all revenue comes from royalties: % based on a players bets -wins; whether this is based on a spin by spin basis or a session, not sure.

Probably best we don’t know what goes on; spin and twist. Think the vendors are paid something to do with a percentage of each spin: it’s why casinos claim when they offer a bonus it adds another unseen cost. Plus I’m sure there are different pay schemes on the go. Who knows though. Or the other question: how can I have 30 losing spins in a row on Napoleon but not 30 winning ones.

I was playing some bingo slots the other day, for a change - with a 98.5% RTP it was near enough impossible to lose my balance - don't get me wrong, the games are boring and at one point i was wishing my balance away, but still managed to get 100 profit to take to Napoleon. And as a sidebar.....no need to verify and withdrawal was paid faster than Slotsmillion: if it'd been a Malta casino I'd probably have been asked for SOW for 100 quid. ?

What players are more concerned about is the spread of the wins: personally, i like to play games with a good 250-500x win range: sometimes I'd like to know the stats in this respect: would be more useful to me than some absurd 500000x win in testing. As Afi will attest to - sometimes the pay table tells you all you need to know anyhow Who knows, maybe the UKGC will ask them to link the testing results into the help file: given how boring some new games are I'd probably spend more time putting those results in a pivot table than spinning the reels. Blueprint, as F says, are really hitting the spot with their releases.

Given we've started the car analogy, it can work both ways:? Whenever you have a recall on a car they will state it covers the same car, produced within the same year for example 2011-12 etc: why? Because it's the same production period, therefore implying that ALL those cars are subject to the same fault because they were all produced identically: they don't say that 'yeah, your car is OK, that one was different even though it was on the same production line': they certainly don't say we produce different quality of cars depending on the Car Show room it's going to. Are supermarket fruit and veg's the same? No, even though they typically come from only a handful of suppliers: reason for the difference in quality is due to some Supermarkets paying a premium to receive the fresher/best picks - which is what i don't think casinos do when they host a game. ?

And again, I'll go back and say what are the other variables?: you're implying that the games are specific to that casino (due to the varied game play) or that the casino has room for movement in their play which, unless they're intercepting the RNG from the software provider (which would be illegal I'm sure, if it was possible), is highly improbable. I don't disagree that slots operate with controlled randomness to an extent but that's the same slot across all casinos. I simply don't see, from a software coding/RNG point of view, how the casino can affect the play of the game if it's pulling from Netent's servers. Now, if the casino kept a cached version of the game on their OWN servers, then yes, i suppose something could be done. It's clear in the sense that I've seen no evidence to tell me anything other than it's the same game across all casinos (RTP variables permitting)?

See above - yes: if you play a PNG at Stakers casino you will notice a difference (over time) to Casumo: because of the difference in RTP of 5%. Random as can be in terms of 'controlled randomness' or pseudo-randomness: whatever way want to think about it. It's all in the maths.

How come? If they're not hosting the software games, or caching them AFAIK, the 'variable' can only be the RTP settings. Only thing would be if the software provider had 100 different versions of the same game for 100 casinos - which i would find to be incredulous, if true. For a start it'd cost too much for the software company to 'smooth' RTP payouts across different stakes for each casino preference - right now, they produce 1 (sometimes 3) RTP's and sell them; job done. Some days DOA good on Casumo, some Days it's Novibet when i switch - 100% sure they're the same game though. We can talk about 'feelings' all day, but that's all they are - subjective - for a while i thought Bonanza was rubbish on Redbet, and it was, and then it was the best etc. Sure enough it will swap back to being Casumo: and the cycle continues. And again - it's the game that's certified by the testing labs: if the casinos could 'tweak' it, which i doubt, then it'd be likely construed as illegal. End of day - just play where you feel the luckiest, even if that feelings is based on gamblers fallacy. It's be good if we could get someone on here from a software developer/compliance background - though no one would believe them?

The one you deposit at the most? They should all play the same anyhow because, you know, it's all random ? Me - Redbet cos it's the one i use the most, followed by VS and Casumo.